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Old 02-14-2015, 11:53 PM   #1
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RBL Season 1 Reflection

We're going to get the second season popping off here relatively soon, but before we do we want to hear from the Season 1 participants to get some feedback about what they liked/didn't like, changes they'd like to see, suggestions, etc. Post in here about your ideas and feedback for the future of the league!

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Old 02-15-2015, 12:36 AM   #2
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Old 02-15-2015, 01:19 AM   #3
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i didnt like losing, lets not let that happen this time round



i thought it was quite weird that i got memphis in the first round though, i dont really follow any sports with play offs, but it felt like i should have faced the worst still renaming, wasnt the play-ins switch, where it was initially 19th vs 20th and it changed to like 13th vs 20th, that to me seemed to give a better advantage to the 13th guy but i felt i (or who ever had come first in the season) should be facing either the 19th or 20th to have the easier path through to the finals, i figured that was how it worked.

im not saying that i wouldnt have battled every week because it was quite nice to have that little sreak going (rip) but it made me feel like im just gonna do the minimum battles this time.

as a suggestion id say scrap the everyone who participates gets a play off spot, losing all your battles or coming with some sub par performances just to say you battled shouldnt be rewarded. play offs should be a win minimum.

maybe a harsher penalty for no shows as well, i got struck by a few and its just annoying

shouts out to kbomb for all the effort thats been puit in and continues to be put in, and shouts to everyone who participated
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i thought it was quite weird that i got memphis in the first round though, i dont really follow any sports with play offs, but it felt like i should have faced the worst still renaming, wasnt the play-ins switch, where it was initially 19th vs 20th and it changed to like 13th vs 20th, that to me seemed to give a better advantage to the 13th guy but i felt i (or who ever had come first in the season) should be facing either the 19th or 20th to have the easier path through to the finals, i figured that was how it worked.

im not saying that i wouldnt have battled every week because it was quite nice to have that little sreak going (rip) but it made me feel like im just gonna do the minimum battles this time.

as a suggestion id say scrap the everyone who participates gets a play off spot, losing all your battles or coming with some sub par performances just to say you battled shouldnt be rewarded. play offs should be a win minimum.

maybe a harsher penalty for no shows as well, i got struck by a few and its just annoying
the first round of the playoffs was a total fuck up and it was 100% my fault. i messed up the bracket ranking the first two rounds because i thought i knew how to do it and i totally didnt so that was absolutely on me and it wont happen again, my apologies.

the playoff structure is going to change, we're still hammering it out but not everyone who meets a minimum is going to automatically make it this time around

and i like the suggestion for the no show penalty, certainly something we will look into because i agree that its really shitty for people who consistently bring their A game every week to have to put up with
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i thought it was quite weird that i got memphis in the first round though, i dont really follow any sports with play offs, but it felt like i should have faced the worst still renaming, wasnt the play-ins switch, where it was initially 19th vs 20th and it changed to like 13th vs 20th, that to me seemed to give a better advantage to the 13th guy but i felt i (or who ever had come first in the season) should be facing either the 19th or 20th to have the easier path through to the finals, i figured that was how it worked.
because when you plan a bracket you expect the higher seed to win, so you got the winner of the 16/17 match up because 16 was the lowest expected winner. the 20th seed isn't expected to advance... and the 20th seed didn't, either, you would've faced the 13th seed instead
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because when you plan a bracket you expect the higher seed to win, so you got the winner of the 16/17 match up because 16 was the lowest expected winner. the 20th seed isn't expected to advance... and the 20th seed didn't, either, you would've faced the 13th seed instead
ah ok that makes sense, i think it was just because it first dropped with the lowest 2 facing each other i assumed that was how it should be

if this shit was football id be champ...you americans and your playing offs
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I was going full throttle at the time, but in hindsight, the pre-season didn't particularly matter much.

If season 2 follows the same structure, any Supa Hawt Fire I (or anyone) writes, will probably just be tucked away until the play-offs, where it'll be more appreciated and meaningful.

I think themed pre-season rounds could go some way to alleviating this. Like one week of nameflips only, or a week of writing in the same rhyme scheme, or movie bars, or whatever, idk. Force people to write conceptually (to an extent) and the material is usually too specific or tailored to be used verbatim elsewhere. Plus it'd change things up a bit, and make the pre-season more fun/worthwhile.

Also the RBL champ should get a uniquely coloured name.

Otherwise, I thought season 1 was great fun, and very well organised.
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I was going full throttle at the time, but in hindsight, the pre-season didn't particularly matter much.

If season 2 follows the same structure, any Supa Hawt Fire I (or anyone) writes, will probably just be tucked away until the play-offs, where it'll be more appreciated and meaningful.

I think themed pre-season rounds could go some way to alleviating this. Like one week of nameflips only, or a week of writing in the same rhyme scheme, or movie bars, or whatever, idk. Force people to write conceptually (to an extent) and the material is usually too specific or tailored to be used verbatim elsewhere. Plus it'd change things up a bit, and make the pre-season more fun/worthwhile.

Also the RBL champ should get a uniquely coloured name.

Otherwise, I thought season 1 was great fun, and very well organised.
i know what you mean about the pre season, going 100% didnt matter much last season but we're making changes this time in this vein. nothing written in stone yet, but of the idea that those with the best records have guaranteed spots in the post season and those with losing records might not make it, even if they meet the minimum number of battles.

themed battles are definitely a good idea, something i wanted to incorporate last season but i had my hands full as it was so i'd like to implement it this time around for sure.

will look into unique ways to identify a champion as well, good lookin out
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What about you do it just like in the world cup

Groups of four and they all battle each other and the two with the highest score avance to the knockout fase
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First off, you da man @KBomb. Keep up the good work here.

Some ideas I have for Season 2...

-Shorten the regular season. Similar to what @Abrupt said, one way to do this is put battlers in groups of 6, have everyone battle each other once, and then have the top 4 advance, with the chance for the winner of the division to get a bye or double bye in the play-offs.

-Also perhaps, create a point system for the regular season. For example, a win = 3 points. A loss = 0 points. A no-show loss = -2 points.

-Create some type of incentive for winning the league. Whether that's a small cash prize, a free VIP membership, a free PPV for an upcoming event- or even all of these things put into some type of package. I would've approached the Championship match against Throwback Mike much differently if there was anything on the line aside from pride.

-Find ways to keep things competitive every match. Whether that's by introducing a subjective ranking system (RBL Top 10) that battlers would re-vote on every week or so. Or maybe introduce some type of promotion/relegation system. (At the end of the season the top _ battlers advance to Division 1 RBL and the bottom _ battlers advance to Division 2 RBL for the following season).

Season 1 was a success but there's still a whole lot of room for growth.

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First off, good shit @KBomb.. On season 1, we all knew going into this, this was a learning process. But I think u did we'll for the first go around.

I was feeling kurgan, idea about some of the weeks being concepts/themed battles.
That would spice shit up a bit and keep niggas on there toes.
I also say like... Do bar of the week, body bag of the week(something of that nature)
I say the usage of judges should be increased. ( if u find can some muthafuccas)
For no-shows, the penalties should be increased to..
1st offense-point deduction.
2nd offense -point deduction & a lose for the next battle.
3rd. Banned to next season.

Idk was jus on some high shit thinking....
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First off, good shit @KBomb.. On season 1, we all knew going into this, this was a learning process. But I think u did we'll for the first go around.

I was feeling kurgan, idea about some of the weeks being concepts/themed battles.
That would spice shit up a bit and keep niggas on there toes.
I also say like... Do bar of the week, body bag of the week(something of that nature)
I say the usage of judges should be increased. ( if u find can some muthafuccas)
For no-shows, the penalties should be increased to..
1st offense-point deduction.
2nd offense -point deduction & a lose for the next battle.
3rd. Banned to next season.

Idk was jus on some high shit thinking....
lot of good ideas here. we definitely want to do a weekly magazine type of thing that highlights bars of the week, bodybags, best battle, etc, problem is that i cant do all that myself so we would need someone to help out.

the judging thing is pretty much stuck with needing to let participants each week vote on battles. otherwise we wouldnt get many people voting unfortunately, bringing in outsiders to read ~10 battles a week just isnt feasible

and finally we're definitely going to be cracking down on no shows harder. people who no showed multiple times should get in more trouble than a one time offender
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lot of good ideas here. we definitely want to do a weekly magazine type of thing that highlights bars of the week, bodybags, best battle, etc, problem is that i cant do all that myself so we would need someone to help out.

the judging thing is pretty much stuck with needing to let participants each week vote on battles. otherwise we wouldnt get many people voting unfortunately, bringing in outsiders to read ~10 battles a week just isnt feasible

and finally we're definitely going to be cracking down on no shows harder. people who no showed multiple times should get in more trouble than a one time offender
Yea.. I figure the judging aspect of things, was a no go.(had to say it tho)
I'm pretty sure some of these guys would help y'all out.
I'll help in any way I can, I jus have below average computer skills.
So I don't know how much of a help I could be.
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I like the group idea a lot. Should we do seeding for the group so we don't end up with all heavy weights in one group? Would people be okay if KBomb and I decided on these with rankings in mind, or just based on rankings and anyone new ends up without any points? Botton tier for the draw?
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I like the group idea a lot. Should we do seeding for the group so we don't end up with all heavy weights in one group? Would people be okay if KBomb and I decided on these with rankings in mind, or just based on rankings and anyone new ends up without any points? Botton tier for the draw?
I think y'all should decide on the rankings. The group idea is dope and would workout better. Otherwise someone would get my schedule from last season.
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I shouldn't do as many battles. or at least plan better. I'd write shit roughly an hour before and it could be good or really bad
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Yo... Abrupt's group idea is fire. That needs to happen. I'm not really sure how that would work with scheduling though. It seems like people would have to battle every week to make the matches line up. And everyone who wants to participate would have to get involved before week one if it's gonna be a round robin. I don't really have a problem with that personally, but there would be much less flexibility and fewer opportunities for new people to get involved.

I also like the idea of highlighting the best bars, battles, and individual performances every week. Between that and the group format, there should be some extra motivation for people who otherwise don't see much point in the regular season.

As far as the playoffs, I think the single elimination tournament style is the only thing that makes sense, so there's nothing I would really change there--except that only the top however so many from a group should advance to this stage. There shouldn't need to be any special incentive for the champion or anything like that either. I don't see why anyone would need extra motivation when it gets to that point.
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I should also say that I'm not really a fan of themed battles in something like this--especially if we run with the group idea. Mixing themed battles in would totally throw off the entire premise of the setup. There wouldn't be an equal opportunity to prove who's the best in the group if the battles aren't all based on a standard format.
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One thing I didn't like was when a person no showed the guy that did show up bars were still posted which were pretty much a waste of somewhat good bars that could've been saved for another opponent the next week

I think It was dank (don't quote me on this) that had a lot of no show opponents and yet Danks bars were still posted my personally I don't think that's fair and would like to see that change





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I think It was dank (don't quote me on this) that had a lot of no show opponents and yet Danks bars were still posted my personally I don't think that's fair and would like to see that change





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yeah it was me

i wasnt too bothered at the time, posting the verse just shows that i did write, but i think if think had worked out differently there could have been a point where i would have faced cole in the playoffs and it would have been pretty shitty that i had already dropped a verse for him and so most of my good flips and ideas were already out there and kinda wasted.
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@Seanzo If you put all the heavyweights in one group that its gonna be alot of exciting matchups and it keeps the competition spirit in the league(also works with the middle/lower tiers

Becuase if you would put for instance 2 lower weights and 4 heavyweights in 1 group then its pretty much pre-decided who will advance to the next round nahmsayin
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i wasnt too bothered at the time, posting the verse just shows that i did write, but i think if think had worked out differently there could have been a point where i would have faced cole in the playoffs and it would have been pretty shitty that i had already dropped a verse for him and so most of my good flips and ideas were already out there and kinda wasted.
true. Also, I always try to check and vote on every RBL battle I can... but if I am short on time, the one with the no show is the first one to get 'not read' pretty much every time for me if im being honest.
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seems like people are fucking with the group idea pretty heavy. would you prefer that the mods make rankings of the battlers that sign up and place them in the groups ourselves our completely randomize it?

also if we do the group thing then thats a pretty big commitment from people that sign up, it pretty guarantees a minimum of 6 battles if we make that the new minimum for entry into the post season
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seems like people are fucking with the group idea pretty heavy. would you prefer that the mods make rankings of the battlers that sign up and place them in the groups ourselves our completely randomize it?

also if we do the group thing then thats a pretty big commitment from people that sign up, it pretty guarantees a minimum of 6 battles if we make that the new minimum for entry into the post season
mods should do ranking imo
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I would say as keep the group stages, early playoffs low key in terms of advertising to the rest of the board, just accept that voting will be kinda low outside of those competing, then at the end of the season put together a small card like 4-6 battles showcasing textbattles best matchups with the RBL finals being the main event and advertise that.

We want people to vote because they are interested, not because they are doin a favour and we can't really be askin people to give a fuck about all these battles. Not talkin about myself here, if you tag me in any battle ill do my best to vote.
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