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Old 08-25-2015, 05:08 AM   #41
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It's not about every title holder, it's about how they realize the title is getting stale and can't bring in more outside interest (Americans) so they give the shot to a prestigious American to make KOTD look good, then once they get that little bump, they send in Arcane (the Canadian jobber who is consistent enough that people can get behind) to take it in an "upset", and then he can give it away to the next Canadian champ in line. He plays the heel role and no one cares when he loses which only makes the next guy look even better.

KOTD then looks like their title is equal opportunity (they might throw a couple black guys in as potential challengers, but they won't let them win it) all the while using the title to re-enforce Canadian nationalism, without making their own Canadian talent look bad by taking a loss to a lower tier Canadian because look what happened with Sketch and how little people cared after he beat Bender. That's why Charron wasn't allowed to beat Pat Stay but they would give it to him if he battled Arcane for the title.

I know breaking kayfabe isn't allowed on this forum, so I'll stop before I end up getting banned.

You're a fuckin idiot and a known loser...you and your weird Arcane agenda should off yourselves!!!
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It's not about every title holder, it's about how they realize the title is getting stale and can't bring in more outside interest (Americans) so they give the shot to a prestigious American to make KOTD look good, then once they get that little bump, they send in Arcane (the Canadian jobber who is consistent enough that people can get behind) to take it in an "upset", and then he can give it away to the next Canadian champ in line. He plays the heel role and no one cares when he loses which only makes the next guy look even better.

KOTD then looks like their title is equal opportunity (they might throw a couple black guys in as potential challengers, but they won't let them win it) all the while using the title to re-enforce Canadian nationalism, without making their own Canadian talent look bad by taking a loss to a lower tier Canadian because look what happened with Sketch and how little people cared after he beat Bender. That's why Charron wasn't allowed to beat Pat Stay but they would give it to him if he battled Arcane for the title.

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You're a fuckin idiot and a known loser...you and your weird Arcane agenda should off yourselves!!!
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Old 08-25-2015, 05:27 AM   #43
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Pat stay is an emo faggot and his size does not match his heart at all , that is all.
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Old 08-25-2015, 06:12 AM   #44
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Well... I'm sure theres some relevance to it in terms of how decisions are arrived at and such... but I certainly don't think it's an elaborate pre-planned chain of events or anything. That would be a bit excessive.

I know Organik talks sometimes like he wants to arrange the best matches, protect the Canadian brand and all that at the same time... I definitely see where he sees himself as a bit of a Dana White or something. I just don't think he's taking things to THAT level
I don't seriously believed it's all preplanned, but certain things are most certainly planned to tip situations towards particular outcomes.

Just look at Organik interfering in stopping Hollohan getting on stage because Pat says so. The guy who just did a round talking about how he'd never start a fight over some battle. They've also refused to allow title matches to happen outside of Toronto.

Or how about how after Arcane gets caught cheating his way to a title match KOTD does nothing to punish Arcane or really even address the situation. They just hoped it would all blow over and then sweep it under the rug.
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I don't seriously believed it's all preplanned, but certain things are most certainly planned to tip situations towards particular outcomes.

Just look at Organik interfering in stopping Hollohan getting on stage because Pat says so. The guy who just did a round talking about how he'd never start a fight over some battle. They've also refused to allow title matches to happen outside of Toronto.

Or how about how after Arcane gets caught cheating his way to a title match KOTD does nothing to punish Arcane or really even address the situation. They just hoped it would all blow over and then sweep it under the rug.
Its funny too. Losing the title to Pat actually gained Arcane some sympathy. Then they gave him a DNA that freestyled for a round and a half and a Cortez who rapped about Arcane for maybe one out of 3 rounds.
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...and after all that time and money invested into Arcane he's still bootleggin your shit. lmfao

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FOH. He was trying hard in those 2nd and 3rd rounds.

Take the L, Patrick. You can't beat top tier Americans, even in your own country. Stick to bodying Charrons and Arcanes.

What excuse is he gonna have when Hollow bodies him?
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that means
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trying hard to lose, going light, throwing the match, etc. = illmac is difficult to write for, a legitimate threat, and he came up short

pat said it himself, what do i say? he's short. illmac is tough to find angles for. charron isn't.

pat on twitter beforehand = I WILL ALWAYS THE CHAMP BLAH BLAH

sucks, wish he woulda came harder. glad greg did it though, well deserved
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watching the battle on the PPV, i feel like the whole atmosphere makes you feel like everybody had already accepted that Illmac would win the battle before it even started, including Pat. you obviously can't win a battle if you don't even believe you will.

that being said i do think he still kinda tried, but most importantly, Pat's best performance wouldn't have beat Illmac here and this wasn't even close to one of Illmac's best performances either. whatever, glad Illmac got the chain and i'm hoping for some good matchups to come out of this (Rone, Saurus, Diz, Ars,...)
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What a sissy pants, this is pretty much cringe to watch a guy pretending not to care he lost.

Even worse that bit when he's telling people off for banging walls. Give it up Patty.
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At least he can have sex with women. Everyone knows you can't prepare for a rap battle and have a girlfriend at the same time.
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watching the battle on the PPV, i feel like the whole atmosphere makes you feel like everybody had already accepted that Illmac would win the battle before it even started, including Pat. you obviously can't win a battle if you don't even believe you will.

that being said i do think he still kinda tried, but most importantly, Pat's best performance wouldn't have beat Illmac here and this wasn't even close to one of Illmac's best performances either. whatever, glad Illmac got the chain and i'm hoping for some good matchups to come out of this (Rone, Saurus, Diz, Ars,...)
Agree with everything you wrote!!!
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dont blame pat for not wanting the chain what has he got from iit? a battle with charoon and arcane? shiiit
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dont blame pat for not wanting the chain what has he got from iit? a battle with charoon and arcane? shiiit
He got to handpick a battle with Diz, Day, choose if and when he would battle Charron, and Calicoe is the first time the champ has ever been allowed to take a non-title match in KOTD. I don't know if he chose the Illmac battle, but Pat has basically been the only champ that got to handpick his opponents.

Don't know why people keep acting like poor Patty has been forced to take all these battles he didn't want.
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He got to handpick a battle with Diz, Day, choose if and when he would battle Charron, and Calicoe is the first time the champ has ever been allowed to take a non-title match in KOTD. I don't know if he chose the Illmac battle, but Pat has basically been the only champ that got to handpick his opponents.

Don't know why people keep acting like poor Patty has been forced to take all these battles he didn't want.
wouldnt say he handpicked diz, diz said he would only battle him if it was for the chain, you're right about cal but to be fair pat had that chain for a long time has anyone else had it for the time frame he had? only make sense he got to battle without it being on the line.
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dont blame pat for not wanting the chain what has he got from iit? a battle with charoon and arcane? shiiit
I don't think anyone's doing that (itt).
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I don't get how he acts like the chain stops him from battling bigger names that he wants.

He got to battle calico.

Sounds like he knew he would lose so he acted like he wanted to, to save face.

"I could have beat illmac if I wanted to" that's hella easy to say after you get smoked.
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...and after all that time and money invested into Arcane he's still bootleggin your shit. lmfao

Man who cares about that shit. More importantly KOTD investment and employee Arcane has been caught stealing from KOTD...AGAIN!
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Man who cares about that shit. More importantly KOTD investment and employee Arcane has been caught stealing from KOTD...AGAIN!
Didn't Arcane steal from you too smh???
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Didn't Arcane steal from you too smh???
Arcane steals from the people that sacrifice to help him. This isn't news. He won't deebo you like a man. He'll just take advantage and make a whole bunch of lies to discredit you and protect himself.
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How can you expect the fans not to bootleg your shit if you're just turning a blind eye to someone you've dumped thousands of dollars into doing the exact same thing? smh
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wouldnt say he handpicked diz, diz said he would only battle him if it was for the chain, you're right about cal but to be fair pat had that chain for a long time has anyone else had it for the time frame he had? only make sense he got to battle without it being on the line.
Pat was the one who called out Diz originally for WD4, but according to Dizaster, Diz, Pat, and KOTD had already discussed making the match even bigger by making it for the chain (and this was before Pat is even set to battle Arcane for the chain, coincidence?). Pat called out Diz publicly so the fans put pressure on Diz and he could battle him without having to go through Arcane and win the chain since he didn't want it (a stance he's always had, not just now) because he felt it could stop him from getting the matches he wanted.

You don't remember all the fans getting upset that Dizaster was getting another shot so soon and that Charron wasn't the one getting that match after his battle with DNA? Charron was the number one contender in the fans eyes and Pat publicly said he refused to battle Charron at that time.

Pat didn't want the Day battle to be for the chain either. He just wasn't against it being for the chain. He wanted that as his first battle in the US so he didn't even think to put it on the line when he first called out Day.

Calicoe had never battled in KOTD, so they couldn't even do the whole thing fast tracking him to top contender so Pat could have the battle he wanted and KOTD could get their title match. KOTD had to make it a one-off and figure out a title shot for WD5.

The only battle that Pat didn't seem to have much choice with was the Charron battle and no other champ would have gotten the chance to just threaten to vacate the title and have KOTD fold to his demands. Otherwise, KOTD gave Pat every battle he asked for to keep him happy so he holds on to the chain.
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Can you imagine people investing thousands into you and doing everything they can to protect your rep after your outted for being a fraud? Then you announce that you can't come to their event cause you're too busy making money. Then you go over to the website that your company hates to watch stolen footage cause youre too cheap to cough up $30 bucks? Typical Arcane IMO.
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...and after all that time and money invested into Arcane he's still bootleggin your shit. lmfao

I can even read that it's too small what does it say?
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I can even read that it's too small what does it say?
Just click on it bro. It says he didn't go to WD because it wasn't worth using any of his sick days at work for so he went and watched a stream of the title match on OTBVA. I'm not going to reveal my bootleg sources but im also not a KOTD employee. Right now Arcane owes KOTD $5030. lmfao
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I was cracking up at that too.
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Concept of Arcane as a jobber (in wrestling parlance) is far too spot-on to be ignored.

Mad decent references here. You are onto something
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