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Old 06-15-2015, 07:55 AM   #1
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Some battlers are hated so much it clouds peoples judgement in battles

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After seeing the Bulletz/Shuffle battle and the poll here for it,it backs up something ive long believed....If a battler is really hated they can have a clear win and still people will vote against them in droves....He clearly won yet many people who dislike him a lot still will not give this man the credit he deserves....Same thing when he battled Chilla and won..Someone else who also gets this treatment is DNA...Dna wins a lot more battles than he loses but even in his bigger wins the polls always show him losing or nearly losing,like the Chess battle...

My new formula for judging battles based off forum polls is foolproof...If a hated battler like these 2 has about 30% of the votes or better its more than likely in reality a bodybag win...The only time the hated really lose is when its less than 30%...People love to hate these guys and especially in Bulletz case he wins most of his battles....The only clear loss Bulletz ever took was J pro but if you check the polls for almost any of his other battles he edges the polls or loses by just a little.

Are there any other battlers that fans hate so much they cant give them a fair assessment of their battles....The only one I can think of is possibly Uno Lavos
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Old 06-15-2015, 08:45 AM   #2
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Old 06-15-2015, 09:16 AM   #3
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I liked bullet lots in that battle but I gave to shuffle 3-0 not bodybag but decisive to me

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A clear win to Bulletz?!? Bulletz' only clear loss is J-pro (DBD zipped him up for a start)?!? I think OP is giving Bulletz wayyyyy to much credit here. Even the Shuffle battle which was the best Bulletz in a long time was at best a 2:1 possible victory to Bulletz, but definitely at least debatable as the polls and the judging shows.

OP has a decent point about forum biases, but Shuffle vs Bulletz is not the battle to make the case on. Look in your signature if you want some better examples...
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Old 06-15-2015, 10:11 AM   #5
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bullets clearly won but this site is very racist I mean look at any battle with two black guys and you'll find responses discouraging the viewing in the thread but thats what you get in a majority farmlife site!!!
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58% of the vote on here definitely equals a clear win for Bulletz.
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also when its a black vs white guy and the black guy won clearly, hes either going to be losing or just barely edging.

but if its even the white guy will be winning the polls clearly
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OP on point ah

And the mental gymnastics are hilarious. You get people saying things like, "this was the best bulletz has been", or "I like his new style", when this is the same bulletz thats been battling forever. He's actually been one of the most consistent kotd guys, and besides to arcane, I can't even remember the last battle he clearly lost.

It also can depend on how much this site likes someone too. Carter deems just got zipped up and bounced out of the GP tourney by urban the element, and people overwhelmingly voted for carter anyway.

Idk if people realize it, but it brings down the credibility of this site when that happens, and highlights the bias that people insist doesnt exist and hate on me for pointing out, smdh.
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Idk if people realize it, but it brings down the credibility of this site when that happens, and highlights the bias that people insist doesnt exist and hate on me for pointing out, smdh.

i legit caught feelings reading this

fuck off with that bull shit lmao. He is the one who came to OUR boards first and talked shit and said stupid shit.

u really wanna act like peoples opinion on him is their fault and not his?

maybe he's decent at battling (debateable) but he definitely is pure SHIT at acting like a human/being a likeable guy.

when ur in the business where u need "fans" and ur performing for people, id say its pretty important to uphold ur public image. this is not a battle rap thing, its a human thing


also it has 0 0 0 0 0 effect on the credibility of the site.................. 0
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Old 06-15-2015, 01:57 PM   #10
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and dont fucking quote me cuz i won't respond

@Seanzo come argue for me ur better at it
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As far as the bulletz battle tho, we might as well discount the following voters:

@100 Bullets (voted against himself cuz he knew what time it is) @Casual (for whatever weird reason actually hates bulletz), @Chromium (racist), @CollarboneSnap (biased), @Doc Waffles (he's a nocoast guy, c'mon), @Emancee (biased), @I Love Multis (racist white guy who had to start a new accouny after being exposed for pretending to be a black person to quailfy his racist opinions), @liveasitgets (never seen this guy post / probably someone's alt account), @Nick Vayne (c'mon), @riffic, @Seanzo, @SpecialOh, (nice guys, but clearly biased.)

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As far as the bulletz battle tho, we might as well discount the following voters:
@100 Bullets (voted against himself cuz he knew what time it is) @Casual (for whatever weird reason actually hates bulletz), @Chromium (racist), @CollarboneSnap (biased), @Doc Waffles (he's a nocoast guy, c'mon), @Emancee (biased), @I Love Multis (racist white guy who had to start a new accouny after being exposed as pretending to be a black person to give quailfy his racist opinions), @liveasitgets (never seen this guy post / probably someone's alt account), @Nick Vayne (c'mon), @riffic, @Seanzo, @SpecialOh, (nice guys, but clearly biased.)
i don't hate bulletz.

i just recognize the fact he is terrible and incapable of winning a battle.

but hey, if you like played out forced wordplay backed by subpar delivery then by all means vote for him.

for the record i turned that battle off after shuffles first cause i was bored. no intention of going back to it but still willing to stand my ground in saying bulletz lost.
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^case in point
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As far as the bulletz battle tho, we might as well discount the following voters:

@100 Bullets (voted against himself cuz he knew what time it is) @Casual (for whatever weird reason actually hates bulletz), @Chromium (racist), @CollarboneSnap (biased), @Doc Waffles (he's a nocoast guy, c'mon), @Emancee (biased), @I Love Multis (racist white guy who had to start a new accouny after being exposed for pretending to be a black person to quailfy his racist opinions), @liveasitgets (never seen this guy post / probably someone's alt account), @Nick Vayne (c'mon), @riffic, @Seanzo, @SpecialOh, (nice guys, but clearly biased.)
You said and I quote 'besides to arcane, I can't even remember the last battle he clearly lost.' Either you are trolling or that opinion is so terrible that it doesn't just make every post you have ever made about Bulletz invalid, but any argument you have ever made about rap invalid.
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^case in point
thats the only battle i watched of his and i liked it
he was funny
i thought shuffle won 3-0 (not bodybag or anything) cuz hes even funnier and wittier

witty+funny battles, thats MY shit thats where specialoh can have an opinion

to me, ur clearly the only bias 1 here

i feel like u basically telling us u voted out of this hidden agenda and not based on ur (shitty) opinion

when me and @Casual agree on something, u can basically count it as fact because we have OPPOSITE opinions

add @Seanzo to that and its indisputable. 100%
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Let's say people did have some irrational bias against bulletz though...does it even really matter? he's a lower-mid tier battler no matter how you slice it, he lacks any real identity...he's the definition of the dime a dozen battler that the scene is oversaturated with this days.

you guys make it seem like there's a group of people holding back the eventual savior of battle rap or some shit...

it's not like bulletz is being held back by this hate...he's consistently getting battles with people at least 1-2 tiers above what he deserves.

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i couldn't agree with that more ^ im leavin lmao this ain't even worth any1s time

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As far as the bulletz battle tho, we might as well discount the following voters:

@100 Bullets (voted against himself cuz he knew what time it is) @Casual (for whatever weird reason actually hates bulletz), @Chromium (racist), @CollarboneSnap (biased), @Doc Waffles (he's a nocoast guy, c'mon), @Emancee (biased), @I Love Multis (racist white guy who had to start a new accouny after being exposed for pretending to be a black person to quailfy his racist opinions), @liveasitgets (never seen this guy post / probably someone's alt account), @Nick Vayne (c'mon), @riffic, @Seanzo, @SpecialOh, (nice guys, but clearly biased.)
awwww cute. Its like youtube comments have migrated here finally.
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As far as the bulletz battle tho, we might as well discount the following voters:

@100 Bullets (voted against himself cuz he knew what time it is) @Casual (for whatever weird reason actually hates bulletz), @Chromium (racist), @CollarboneSnap (biased), @Doc Waffles (he's a nocoast guy, c'mon), @Emancee (biased), @I Love Multis (racist white guy who had to start a new accouny after being exposed for pretending to be a black person to quailfy his racist opinions), @liveasitgets (never seen this guy post / probably someone's alt account), @Nick Vayne (c'mon), @riffic, @Seanzo, @SpecialOh, (nice guys, but clearly biased.)
Wait but... couldn't we do that to the Bulletz voters too?
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also as performers, it's their job to make you want to see more of them. if people are still biased against a battler when what a battler is trying to do is succeed in a market driven completely by popularity then it's ON the battler if people don't like him.

though people who vote against bulletz based on him being black, and they definitely exist, are weirdos of a different nature and can FOH
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also as performers, it's their job to make you want to see more of them. if people are still biased against a battler when what a battler is trying to do is succeed in a market driven completely by popularity then it's ON the battler if people don't like him.

though people who vote against bulletz based on him being black, and they definitely exist, are weirdos of a different nature and can FOH
sounds like u repeating what i said but with bigger words
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sounds like u repeating what i said but with bigger words
didn't read your post, sorry!
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As far as the bulletz battle tho, we might as well discount the following voters:

@100 Bullets (voted against himself cuz he knew what time it is) @Casual (for whatever weird reason actually hates bulletz), @Chromium (racist), @CollarboneSnap (biased), @Doc Waffles (he's a nocoast guy, c'mon), @Emancee (biased), @I Love Multis (racist white guy who had to start a new accouny after being exposed for pretending to be a black person to quailfy his racist opinions), @liveasitgets (never seen this guy post / probably someone's alt account), @Nick Vayne (c'mon), @riffic, @Seanzo, @SpecialOh, (nice guys, but clearly biased.)
Where's my bias from? The fact I chat with both of them off here and am cool with both? I mean, if I have a bias it's in my taste for rap battling but it's not as if enjoying certain things in a battle can be considered a bias.
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OP pretty on point here, except for forgetting Dan's bodying of Bulletz and saying DNA wins battles often, but about peoples judgement being biased and literally hating certain battlers- def on point

words like "preference", "subjective", and "my opinion" are the weapons of choice in this crime
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Where's my bias from? The fact I chat with both of them off here and am cool with both? I mean, if I have a bias it's in my taste for rap battling but it's not as if enjoying certain things in a battle can be considered a bias.
Well first, I have biases too. I think we all do. But what I meant by "biased" in this case is that the people I mentioned favored one battler over the before the battle even started, and I believe that effected their judgement. It might not have been completely fair to throw you in the mix, tbf, but I remember you admitting that carter deems didnt win his last two rounds against urban the element, yet you voted for carter anyway lol.
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Well first, I have biases too. I think we all do. But what I meant by "biased" in this case is that the people I mentioned favored one battler over the before the battle even started, and I believe that effected their judgement. It might not have been completely fair to throw you in the mix, tbf, but I remember you admitting that carter deems didnt win his last two rounds against urban the element, yet you voted for carter anyway lol.
Yeah, I was just kidding around on that one because I'm admittedly biased towards Carter because he's one of my favourite people I've met in rap battling. Strangely enough, I have a photo of him and Shuffle T touching teeth from BOLA last year.
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Old 06-15-2015, 04:55 PM   #29
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also as performers, it's their job to make you want to see more of them. if people are still biased against a battler when what a battler is trying to do is succeed in a market driven completely by popularity then it's ON the battler if people don't like him.

though people who vote against bulletz based on him being black, and they definitely exist, are weirdos of a different nature and can FOH
Yeah, or you could vote on who won the contest as opposed to who you like better, or who's more popular.

...or not. I mean, I guess it doesn't really matter, I'm just saying that it lowers the credibility of this site when people vote for who they like more instead of basing their judgements on objective criteria.
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Yeah, or you could vote on who won the contest as opposed to who you like better, or who's more popular.

...or not. I mean, I guess it doesn't really matter, I'm just saying that it lowers the credibility of this site when people vote for who they like more instead of basing their judgements on objective criteria.
1) people watch battle rap for enjoyment bro. i don't care that pavarotti is technically and objectively a better singer than t-swizz, i'm still gonna go see her concert first

2) how would you judge this battle objectively? if that's possible then your next post will be you proving that 100 bulletz won in a way that i necessarily cannot contradict, which I think will be very hard for you to do, if not impossible.
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OP on point ah
He's actually been one of the most consistent kotd guys, and besides to arcane, I can't even remember the last battle he clearly lost.
Arcane should have lost for recycling 3 bars I already said to Bulletz and talking through his rounds.
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Bulletz is pretty nice, I really enjoyed his last few main stage performances. Who cares if he's an uncle tom or whatever, He's actually very entertaining
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I watched the first round of Bulletz battle vs Shuffle T and it was mos def inspired by this forum.
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As far as the bulletz battle tho, we might as well discount the following voters:

@100 Bullets (voted against himself cuz he knew what time it is) @Casual (for whatever weird reason actually hates bulletz), @Chromium (racist), @CollarboneSnap (biased), @Doc Waffles (he's a nocoast guy, c'mon), @Emancee (biased), @I Love Multis (racist white guy who had to start a new accouny after being exposed for pretending to be a black person to quailfy his racist opinions), @liveasitgets (never seen this guy post / probably someone's alt account), @Nick Vayne (c'mon), @riffic, @Seanzo, @SpecialOh, (nice guys, but clearly biased.)

Lmaooo been catching shit for being the only 100 Bulletz fan on here but when I feel he lost a battle (the first since CL probably) I'm all of a sudden biased, racist, baldist, favouring Europeans, sexually attracted to Shuffle, trolling or whatever fits your agenda today.

If any opinion should be disregarded it's your own, after all those raging temper tantrums about a show you claim every week to stop watching but never follow through on. You're clearly emotionally unstable.
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Lmaooo been catching shit for being the only 100 Bulletz fan on here but when I feel he lost a battle (the first since CL probably) I'm all of a sudden biased, racist, baldist, favouring Europeans, sexually sexually attracted to Shuffle, trolling or whatever fits your agenda today.
No one said that. smh
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No one said that. smh
Lol, no one said anything about 90% of what he posted
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Arcane should have lost for recycling 3 bars I already said to Bulletz and talking through his rounds.
I think I had Bulletz winning that battle tbh. Not willing to rewatch to confirm though.
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Not to be rude, but for all of the "terrible" or "seasoned" opinion talk.. I can't honestly pay too much mind to people that call 100 Bullets a bad writer, then openly praise Pat Stay's pen game.

The universe is much brighter for it. Preferences, preferences. Some of you are just unapologetic with your over 9000 levels of bias.
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