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Old 03-17-2017, 09:55 PM   #1
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JC is the litmus pass

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As far as I'm concerned JC is the best battle rap writer of all time.

Not only has he had amazing performances against top tier opponents; he produces high level performances consistently on every stage that he ascends.

I regard QP (sons) as a great writer but when he was put in a cage with JC the difference was clear. The same with PASS (when he was on form), JC clearly was a level above. The same with Daylyt, Daylyt was clearly shocked by JC's ability; he asked JC's boys "did you know he was this nice?"

The only time JC seems to lose is when the crowd isn't wise enough to comprehend his meaning.

I hear noise about Ave (rightly so..) but he hasn't done a quarter of what JC has. If he really wants to prove himself, he needs to see JC before I can really consider him for that title. The same with Rum Nitty.

If you think a writer is the GOAT, put him next to JC for the litmus test.
There may never be a writer better than JC in battle rap. FACTS

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Old 03-18-2017, 09:06 AM   #2
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JC dances in and out of my top 5 battle rappers. #frokobe
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JC dances in and out of my top 5 battle rappers. #frokobe
Too many quotables, I took time out to actually listen and pay attention to what he is saying...next level. I heard he got Chef Trez. Can't wait for that to drop
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chilla bodied JC and he almost cried
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but yes, ave vs jc and nitty vs jc will be great
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What's a litmus pass
Litmus test...meant, to pass the litmus test
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Hes so boring tho
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but yes, ave vs jc and nitty vs jc will be great
Yeah I'm waiting on the announcements soon. These battles have to happen.
JC deserves them, his spot is only really threatened by these two
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depends how you rate good writing really
If I gave you a list of:
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i know hes a little bitch but born should get love and be near the top when talking about best writers.
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i know hes a little bitch but born should get love and be near the top when talking about best writers.
He's nice and always get overlooked, I'm guilty of that a lot. He's not really that active so, I'll give myself a pass. JC is a different animal to Born though
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Who would you say is the best writer? and why?
honestly even though he can be a bit boring someone like chilla , bender , jc , ilmac because i think they have the most diverse way of writing they can switch it up when necessary according to the situation or opponent also have displayed over time they're versatile enough with their writing i find a lot of other battlers stick to what they know is expected
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honestly even though he can be a bit boring someone like chilla , bender , jc , ilmac because i think they have the most diverse way of writing they can switch it up when necessary according to the situation or opponent also have displayed over time they're versatile enough with their writing i find a lot of other battlers stick to what they know is expected
illmacs writing is pretty shit compared to jc
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illmacs writing is pretty shit compared to jc
im thinking more his concept rounds like 3rd vs bigg k and 3rd vs manaz ill he takes different approaches taking a whole round to buikd up to one punch is risky and preety innovatavie in my opinion
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illmacs writing is pretty shit compared to jc
totally disagree

They also write completely differently so comparing them is weird
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im thinking more his concept rounds like 3rd vs bigg k and 3rd vs manaz ill he takes different approaches taking a whole round to buikd up to one punch is risky and preety innovatavie in my opinion
i thought both of those rounds were wack as fuck and i thought the follow up reaction from people about how "concept rounds!!" were dope was also wack
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They also write completely differently so comparing them is weird
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honestly even though he can be a bit boring someone like chilla , bender , jc , ilmac because i think they have the most diverse way of writing they can switch it up when necessary according to the situation or opponent also have displayed over time they're versatile enough with their writing i find a lot of other battlers stick to what they know is expected
Okay, I have an idea of what you mean now. I guess you see great writing as mixing a plethora of literary devices with different areas of life. I guess I sort of agree with that, though what I like about JC is the way he can express himself seamlessly from theme to theme and delivery his message in unique, mind blowing ways (using different literary devices).

Illmac does that too but his delivery isnt like the illmac of old. If it was I think he could challenge JC (like his 3rd vs Bender or 2nd vs Dizaster)
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Danny Myers on his day can come close, hate him or not
Lux is close but just goes on and on with filler too much sometimes.

The key to JC's effectiveness is actually his delivery. He has A+++ delivery, his setups are unearthly.

The only nigga who can top him is an on form focused verb....again because he has great writing but an even better delivery



Verb's first round here @ 5:15

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He's fuckin boring and barely stood up to Caustic writing wise. Fucking CAUSTIC. I don't care if that was him 'not trying', that actually makes it worse.

JC isn't really on anyone's radar for a reason.

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Yeah I'm waiting on the announcements soon. These battles have to happen.
JC deserves them, his spot is only really threatened by these two
Are you saying jc couldn't take lux tho? Or are you just being realistic regarding the matchups?
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Are you saying jc couldn't take lux tho? Or are you just being realistic regarding the matchups?
If JC vs Lux was set up anywhere out of New York, JC would win...sure of it.

JC would out write Lux...facts. Look at the consistency of JC over the last 7 years and compare that to Lux's whole career.
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illmacs writing is pretty shit compared to jc
You just.... you... you're just..... Ah forget it.
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Old 03-19-2017, 01:29 AM   #34
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Jc is certainly a great writer but when we're talking about the best battle rappers, the discussion begins with Lux at #1. Jc sometimes has a tendency to be very indirect (daylyt syndrome). Lux has always crafted insanely clever shit detailed specifically with his opponent in mind. And then of course, the nerdbird battlers shouldn't even be mentioned in this discussion (the Illmacs, irons, and thesauruses of the world) even though they're all quite talented in their own right.
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Old 03-19-2017, 01:38 AM   #35
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If JC vs Lux was set up anywhere out of New York, JC would win...sure of it.

JC would out write Lux...facts. Look at the consistency of JC over the last 7 years and compare that to Lux's whole career.
lol you have lost your mind. You mentioned Lux has filler? That's mostly what Jc spits. His setups can sometimes be DNA level bad too. You know what I'm talking about.

You hear something along the lines of "But see that's the problem with these clowns" far too often from him. A lot of his stuff is great but a lot of it is poorly structured and filler. That, combined with a mid tier delivery gets the crowd kind of bored sometimes.
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Old 03-19-2017, 02:29 AM   #36
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If JC vs Lux was set up anywhere out of New York, JC would win...sure of it.

JC would out write Lux...facts. Look at the consistency of JC over the last 7 years and compare that to Lux's whole career.
I thought I was good at trolling but this is amazing

Jc has some good bars but he can't form a verse let alone 3 verses like lux

That being said it'd be great to see happen
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Old 03-19-2017, 03:08 AM   #37
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if jc went at the capacity he is known to in his 3rds for like 2 rounds a battle instead of just that 3rd he might have never lost. imo he's def a top 5 writer. i rate him higher than i do qp and chilla.
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lol you have lost your mind. You mentioned Lux has filler? That's mostly what Jc spits. His setups can sometimes be DNA level bad too. You know what I'm talking about.

You hear something along the lines of "But see that's the problem with these clowns" far too often from him. A lot of his stuff is great but a lot of it is poorly structured and filler. That, combined with a mid tier delivery gets the crowd kind of bored sometimes.
"You can sense it nigga the tension thicker than German guard dogs" ...Crowd goes wild

"This niggas mamas name must be brenda with the trash shit"

Lux poor filler lines, but he has some crazy bars/schemes too.

Having a go at JC's setups is like having a go at angel dust/guardian angel verb's performance

Mook 3-0 Lux, Clips beat him, acting like Lux is unbeatable is so 2012

JC would beat Lux
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Old 03-19-2017, 01:15 PM   #39
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I know it's been a bit since he battled, but there's not enough people saying Lux name in here. JC is dope, but Lux is on a whole other level with writing. The way he rapped on Freestyle Friday 10 years ago would still wash like 98% of battle rappers, and those rounds were never overly specific.


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We don't care if you thirsty, swallow yo spit
Probably thought this was a bright idea, who hit the light switch?
Hype shift, this is where it looks like the fight fixed
Tight fist, beat you with the hand that I write with
Punchlines that remind Rodney King of them nightsticks"

Who the fuck else writes like that? Loaded Lux >>> *

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Jc is certainly a great writer but when we're talking about the best battle rappers, the discussion begins with Lux at #1. Jc sometimes has a tendency to be very indirect (daylyt syndrome). Lux has always crafted insanely clever shit detailed specifically with his opponent in mind. And then of course, the nerdbird battlers shouldn't even be mentioned in this discussion (the Illmacs, irons, and thesauruses of the world) even though they're all quite talented in their own right.
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JC needs to get some bigger battles. He'd be so perfect for the bunker...

I wanna see JC vs. Bigg K tbh
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