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Old 03-23-2017, 05:22 AM   #41
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This will never be accepted in hip hop (not just battle rap, but hip hop in general). The youngins are brought up being taught being gay = being weird, weak, feminine, etc. And then when they get older, the cycle repeats. The answer is no. A gay battler will never be accepted.
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Old 03-23-2017, 05:24 AM   #42
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After chingy came out, all he had to do was release one more big hit and he would have broken the glass ceiling.
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if there's a part of the scene that isn't "ready" for a gay battler then they're fucking ridiculous and shouldn't be considered when doing anything
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It will work on certain platforms. It fucking sucks that it won't work everywhere but it just won't. Too many fake tough guys pause pause pause pause trying to prove to the next man how not gay they are.
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How do we know any of the current battle rappers we rock with aren't gay?

And if you found out would it change your perspective?
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The whole "you're gay" angle would be easily bodied by someone who embraced their sexuality if you think about it. They are already owning it. And they would probably have a million rebuttals.
yea i was thinking the same thing when i was thinking about this 2 seconds ago when i clicked on the thread here. someone who's good could actually use it to their advantage. sadly there's like, 12 battle rappers that are any good so.....I'm skeptical ......could there be a battle rapper who's not very good and also a homosexual? easily.
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After chingy came out, all he had to do was release one more big hit and he would have broken the glass ceiling.
Wait Chingy is gay?
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Most of this thread totally on point. The culture just doesn't allow it. But it IS changing. Sky2Real probably going too far saying it'll never happen
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Remember a while ago when there were some stupid rumors about Show Off being gay, due to something his ex-wife said? People started blogging and speculating about it and asked whether it would change their view on him as a battler. Of course it ended up getting quickly dismissed, but all the talking just showed that people in the battle community are xenophobic as hell.

Plus nobody ever reacts the slightest to homophobic slurs during battles. It's ridiculous!

Maybe it could work in a smaller Cali setting.

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I don't see why it wouldn't work if he was really good and being gay was just a fact, not a gimmick. So, completely the opposite of TwoCan.

I guess the most difficult part would be climbing the steps. Most bottom tier battlers are bottom tier for a reason, and they'll gladly go for three rounds of cheap jokes. Definitely don't battle in Toronto. I believe the Bunker and even the URL PG/Born Legacy crowds would be able to rate someone who's really good, regardless of personal stuff. As long as the battler doesn't act gay.

Make sure the league doesn't title the video "GAY RAP BATTLE".

Once he's made name for himself, there should be plenty of battlers who wouldn't stick to low blows (or have a reason not to). Saurus, Illmac. Loe Pesci. K-Shine or Yung Ill. Fresco. Shuffle T, Soul. Soul Khan, NoCanDo, Lux!

Okay, he just has to be REALLY good imo.
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If you care about someone sexuality than your opinion means fuck all to me.

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Compare the grindtime era to now and how the homophobic material has slowed down. Back then every other word was faggot and every other scheme was about all the gay things the other person was doing. That shit just doesn't fly anymore especially in the west/Canada/UK.

We have some catching up to do here in the east but I don't consider it hopeless. Americas outlook on sexuality as a whole is changing.

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Once he's made name for himself, there should be plenty of battlers who wouldn't stick to low blows (or have a reason not to). Saurus, Illmac. Loe Pesci. K-Shine or Yung Ill. Fresco. Shuffle T, Soul. Soul Khan, NoCanDo, Lux!

Okay, he just has to be REALLY good imo.
Just want to point out Khan did almost an entire battle of gay jokes against someone who isn't even gay
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Just want to point out Khan did almost an entire battle of gay jokes against someone who isn't even gay
Lol true. He actually discussed this at length on rmbva in the more recent years. Says he feels really bad about the fat shaming and homophobic shit he's said in battles. I think it's part of why he left the scene actually.

Also, this is only slightly relevant but I'll post it anyway-

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as long as they could stand up there and deal with the undoubtedly super low hanging fruit (no pun intended)
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Speaking on the topic though, as long as they have the skill I'm sure the majority of people will push their lifestyle to the side and let them continue performing in battles. They'd probably never make it on URL though.. Deacon Frost was the first and last.
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There's some good points made in here. I think the best way to sum it up would just be "they'd have to be undeniably good". If there was someone who was gay and could write his ass off, be naturally entertaining, make the crowd laugh & probably have a bunch of pre-med rebuttals, then yes- I think he'd be accepted. If they're not good, it would be a long night for them & a forgettable battle for everyone else.

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hypothetically saying the gay rapper is nice as hell, what makes anybody think that the better battle rappers would want to battle him? They would pretty much have nothing to gain and everything to lose...
this. no one would take the battle regardless of how nice they are. sucks.
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as long as that particular mc and the opponent he was booked against didn't solely talk about him being gay - otherwise he'd become a novelty act.

Big J vs Two-Can on Don't Flop (I think Two-Can is bisexual) is an example of where it can be cringey, I imagine it'll similar to when men battle women when the men are just like, you're a cunt whore dish cloth cum sucking etc. it's v. boring.

so yeah no reason it can't work but don't book them with shitty opponents and maybe bring in a few of these guys at once so they're not just 'the (1 in the universe) gay battle rapper'

also I think maybe P-Nut battled a gay dude at Tourettes so ask him maybe?
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how can anyone seriously act like battle rap hasn't alrdy been infiltrated by homos with cats like prep, fresco, con, tay roc, k shine, verb, rone etc running around? is this even a real question?
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If I battle rapped ( Don't have time and don't live in the tri-state anymore) niggas wouldn't be able to fuck with my shit. Fuck being bi gotta do with my bars? Nothing.

I'm sure there's a ton of down low niggas already in the game though.
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Nobody mentioning the undeniable gameplan for niggas like me though and I'm tickled. Since most dudes are so insecure and anti gay, fucking with them would be PRICELESS.

You wanna scrap? Let's get it in. Cause I'm a big nigga and my hands work. THEN you got beat up by a gay nigga AND you got outbarred. Shieeeeet.
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they would have to be good, but they would also have to sound masculine

if a dude came up there with a very femmy voice then the ill rhymes would be thrown out the window and that's just how it would be, not saying its right or wrong..
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I have no words after reading that HFK post.

In regards to the topic, question, is there an openly gay man in a high profile competitive sport? Problem is, rap battling and sport go hand in hand (lolgay) in this topic. So much bravado that people will automatically not take a gay guy seriously because of preconceptions of how a gay man is meant to be. For lesbians, its cool, no one cares because men don't see them as a competitor in their field.

I don't really care though, out of all these battle rappers I'm sure at least one is gay. The odds against it are too damn high.
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Aint been having much time for liesure lately but I did get this thread as a suggestion by tapatalk a few days ago when there were few posts and instantly was gonna mention Fly King but didn't and then forgot all about it- glad to see people were on it

without him existing, I would have said it would never work in the black leagues
Dont Flop? Canada? Predominanly white leagues?-absolutely it could work but homosexuality is still very much demonized in the black community

The more "hard" or militant the demographic of the league, the more anti-gay they are going to be.
The black community is one of the last unapolegeticly anti-gay groups, outside of the ultra-religious/alt-right or openly racist, despite having a large population of gays within the community.

FlyKing is just like the homies gay lil brother that eventually is just there and it is acknowledged but never supported that he is gay. This type of "acceptance" is about the best that can be hoped for I'm afraid (in the black leagues)
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As a huge Conceited fan, he always set my Gaydar off

I feel like he could be gay, or you could easily imagine a gay battle rapper being a lot like conceited

IMO an openly gay Conceited weaving gay innuendo into his wordplay would be unstoppable

and would get more crowd reaction

WOuld be a hit on KOTD and DF

But would a gay Conceited be accepted on Smack? Possibly, but not accepted the way a non-gay Conceited would be accepted. Accepted the way Soul Khan and Iron Solomon were accepted on Smack
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Old 03-26-2017, 07:31 PM   #78
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As a huge Conceited fan, he always set my Gaydar off

I feel like he could be gay, or you could easily imagine a gay battle rapper being a lot like conceited

IMO an openly gay Conceited weaving gay innuendo into his wordplay would be unstoppable

and would get more crowd reaction

WOuld be a hit on KOTD and DF

But would a gay Conceited be accepted on Smack? Possibly, but not accepted the way a non-gay Conceited would be accepted. Accepted the way Soul Khan and Iron Solomon were accepted on Smack
god damnit i wanted to quote/reply to this post with an old instagram photo of Con at the strip club wherein he's totally ignoring the stripper. such a good photo he looks so deep in thought like he's having an epiphany. the photo has never been more relevant than right now and i cannot find it. fock.
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Old 03-26-2017, 07:41 PM   #79
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lets not....let them battle on Qotr


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Old 03-26-2017, 08:05 PM   #80
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god damnit i wanted to quote/reply to this post with an old instagram photo of Con at the strip club wherein he's totally ignoring the stripper. such a good photo he looks so deep in thought like he's having an epiphany. the photo has never been more relevant than right now and i cannot find it. fock.
YES!! I kno exactly the one. She had a baby pic on her back and cats had a meme goin round that said "When you see your own baby pic on a strippers back" LOLz
just looked for the pic again too in the groups cuz I seen someone use the pic this weekend but couldnt find it, fuck haha
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