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Old 12-01-2018, 12:22 PM   #1
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who ghostwrote jc's bars vs chilla

reading them on genius and the person who wrote these 100% did not write the horrendous shit vs illmac and even someone's c-game resembles the structure they write in

i don't know anybody in url and haven't actively watched battles in years so unsure if this is a known thing but genuinely curious

honestly the writing structure sounds like pass heh
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my god chilla is terrible lol
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those battles were five years apart and his style changed a lot in that time. that's just how he used to sound
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Watch a lot of JC's battles on the smaller leagues around that period and he definitely had the same style.
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those battles were five years apart and his style changed a lot in that time. that's just how he used to sound
lol that's not how styles change
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Watch a lot of JC's battles on the smaller leagues around that period and he definitely had the same style.
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lol that's not how styles change
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i dont get the logic... JC is known for being an excellent writer
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an excellent writer to you is not an excellent writer to me. i have only seen him vs illmac and his writing was horrific in that. someone pasted me chilla verses and they were very good and complete opposite of illmac shit. unless dude got into drugs or some shit, you don't change your style from tightly written abba schemes with sound punches purposely contained in a carefully cultivated flow to.... loose fitting garbage w/ horrible punches/wordplay and zero structured flow. idk maybe the dude did just completely fall the fuck off while completely abandoning his original natural style lol

if ur saying he had the jc vs chilla style in that same period, but not after, id say thats more likely he had help
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again, i ain't even seen dude's battles besides like 2/3 vs greg and reading chilla, so maybe i'm just legally retarded. but i am pretty familiar with battle writing and all dem tingz, bruv. there's levels to this shit and its obvious when someone's writing is way diff. given they're like 5 years apart or some shit, maybe he did just fall of completely tho. that sucs

yall really think mosh jelton aka winona ryders bush with kobe bryants foot aka the mascot for forced multi suddenly could fit together several solid multis on the same topic on an angle that was already above his paygrade? i do not

shits interesting to me tho, genius having da lix is ill cuz i can skip the writing quickly. one day maybe ill have time and FIND THE REAL WRITER!!!
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some of the chiller bars sounds more like foreman than current jc
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you don't change your style from tightly written abba schemes with sound punches purposely contained in a carefully cultivated flow to.... loose fitting garbage w/ horrible punches/wordplay and zero structured flow
What if he noticed that shifting to the latter made him exceedingly more popular
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LOL jc vs charlie juxtaposed with jc vs this chef trez guy is like completely different people LOL there's no chance he wrote that shit back in the day mayne

you don't devolve from that level of style to the wack shit he spts vs trez or greg

even if you just don't give a fuck and you're here to collect a chick, your brain's ability to think in properly rhyming multis that utilize compound words and known phrases doesn't dissipate

unless this dude on some flowers for algernon shit where he reverting back to his original retarded self, 100% absolutely i'd bet your guys' lives on it that at least 90% of the earlier shit is someone else
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What if he noticed that shifting to the latter made him exceedingly more popular
that doesn't even make sense from any logical standpoint at all and is just a dumb post
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that doesn't even make sense from any logical standpoint at all and is just a dumb post
How is consciously changing your style to fit into what more people react positively to illogical? That literally happens all the time in every single artform

He's inarguably way more popular with the style you hate than he was with the style you like
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kinda reminds me of how daylyt went from a punchline heavy style to a more associative wordplay style with a lot of esoteric references. i feel like his stylistic change was a downgrade and that he'd win more battles if he kept to his vs rich dolarz style, but ppl seem to rate his writing style more now than before even though i don't care for it.
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ugh, non-sequiturs, correlation to causation, jesus. there is nothing hinting at or establishing that he consciously did anything. it's a random "what if" that's exponentially less likely than my theory.

what was the initial impetus to shift his style so dramatically? what catalyzed the bizarre regression from solid writing to terrible writing in the first place? he flipped a coin one day to decide whether he'd arbitrarily knock his writing game down 4-5 levels and see if it resulted in an explosion of popularity? i think if you understood the writing better you would realize how fuckin stupid that is.

here is what's likely happening: he had ghost writers for sure early on. his popularity has nothing to do with writing style because 99% of fans don't know the difference anyway. you got 10.8k posts on a battle rap message board and you don't understand it.

i skimmed a few other rounds in between chilla and he goes on long-winded tangents that exhibit none of the skill or purpose of the surrounding schemes. that's not really a thing people do. you also don't alternate between extremely wack, lazy, and basic af played punches to pretty solid, tightly written ones.

dude goes from "his shit i cant stand, christopher reeves" and "paraplegic, that's the shit i can't stand fam" in the same battle which dropped a month after chilla?

the battle wit chilla where he setup like 80% of his lines with internal abba and half abba's

and then did that like 0 times against this AQ guy? LOL wtf is this shit: https://youtu.be/-4D9raKD-_A?t=198

LOL here's how you rate the possibilities so far:

most likely: it was just the natural progression of... regression.. similar to how conor mcgregor used to KO people with one shot from insanely precise, split second counter lefts... and naturally now he throws wild haymakers and turns around with his hands down

very possible: maybe conor is just purposely not using all of the ingrained skills he had earlier, because now he's the biggest fighter on the planet and him getting KO'd has made him popular.

not very likely: a dude who alternates between relatively high level writing and extremely poor within the same month in 12 and is somehow worse in 2018 had ghostwriters
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just a lower view count is all, ranks 38 out of 65 logged. it's to teh left of charlie, the 0 i a period of inactivity since the axis has dates involved
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i mean tbh i also used to like JC way more back then than i do now. but just cause some of us don't like his new style doesn't mean it has to be the case that he used to have ghostwriters. that's a pretty huge random assumption to make. writing isn't the only element of battle rap or we'd all be sitting here reading text battles. the dumbed down bullshit he does now is probably a lot easier to perform in a way a drunk/lit crowd can easily understand and appreciate
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its not a random assumption. pretty obvious he has/had ghostwriters if u are competent at writing or spend lots of time thinking about lyrics. wjich isnt this board obv.

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that's terrible and the person who wrote the chilla shit would never write that. half it doesn't even make sense or flow. but whatever, i legit thought it could be like a known thing he has ghostwriters or known accusations and was curious who. idc if u still like him, i wasn't tryin to ruin santa for yall
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its not a random assumption. pretty obvious he has/had ghostwriters if u are competent at writing or spend lots of time thinking about lyrics. wjich isnt this board obv.
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This is probably the closest I've seen to JC using his old style in awhile.
only checked a round and thats nothin like his older shit and i cant stand how he stops after any sound at all. so annoying someoe drops their keys and hes like shaking his head yellin shit THIS LIGHT while starting over
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only checked a round and thats nothin like his older shit and i cant stand how he stops after any sound at all. so annoying someoe drops their keys and hes like shaking his head yellin shit THIS LIGHT while starting over
Then you would really hate his DNA battle. Maybe part of that is why that battle is 50 minutes long.
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Didn't read the whole thread. JC is dope and can easily beat 75%+ of battlers with his pen game.

He's either upper mid tier or lower top tier. Be honest. When's the last time you heard somebody say they hate JC?

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Didn't read the whole thread. JC is dope and can easily beat 75%+ of battlers with his pen game.

He's either upper mid tier or lower top tier. Be honest. When's the last time you heard somebody say they hate JC?

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i don't know anything about what folks think of JC

i would say the pen game in the chilla and tay roc battles are vv good i just don't think he wrote them
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