Diz goes in on KOTD on Periscope - Page 2

**VAallDAY** · 12-30-2017, 01:50 PM

shitttttt, dizaster destroying KOTD...

droppin truth bombs god damn

**PJ Sumroc** · 12-30-2017, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMumbles905

Url cant take over the west as they dont fuck with the Kings of the West. The top west coast battlers are not Street battlers.

Like with the fall of GT. The west coast rappers NEED KOTD

Yeah I dont agree with this at all. URL has already done battles with Diz,Pass,B Dot, Danny Myers,Daylyt, Rum Nitty, etc all big west coast names. ..And with them recently linking up with Avocado I can see URL easily taking over the west. Are we trying to act like Traffic 3 wasnt a massive success?

I think youve got it backwards KOTD NEEDS THE WEST

**6000GP** · 12-30-2017, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMumbles905

Really? KOTD had a very successful year in 2017 Diz not fucking with them is more of a loss to Diz than to KOTD. People been saying KOTD won't be around to long for almost a decade now LOL

Ya, idk man, this legit looks like kotd’s worse year ever. They had only 3 events for the whole year and finished off with WD in Toronto which had, what looks to be, about 75-100 people in attendance. I heard Avirex plans on leaving, diz is leaving, head ice is getting long in the tooth

But in your following post, I agree with you — the west coast rappers need kotd because url is not putting them on. The so-called “Kings of the West” aren’t really relevant as it is, they’ll fade into obscurity without a major platform showcasing them

**6000GP** · 12-30-2017, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PJ Sumroc

Yeah I dont agree with this at all. URL has already done battles with Diz,Pass,B Dot, Danny Myers,Daylyt, Rum Nitty, etc all big west coast names. ..And with them recently linking up with Avocado I can see URL easily taking over the west. Are we trying to act like Traffic 3 wasnt a massive success?

I think youve got it backwards KOTD NEEDS THE WEST

I agree with you to a degree, but I think mumbles might’ve been talking about the old grind time or “fresh coast” guys when he was referring to “the kings of the west”. I could be wrong tho

**PJ Sumroc** · 12-30-2017, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 6000GP

I agree with you to a degree, but I think mumbles might’ve been talking about the old grind time or “fresh coast” guys when he was referring to “the kings of the west”. I could be wrong tho

word, but thats why i mentioned people like Diz and Pass. Only a matter of time before Illmac gets a west URL matchup after that RBE performance and who knows with the right matchup Saurus could get one too.

With BOTZ,Ruin Your Day, LA Battlegroundz, Skytier NW, and now URL the whole "The west needs KOTD" statement just isnt true anymore IMO

**Profess** · 12-30-2017, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMumbles905

Url cant take over the west as they dont fuck with the Kings of the West. The top west coast battlers are not Street battlers.

Like with the fall of GT. The west coast rappers NEED KOTD

Illmac about to make the transition (no Bruce Jenner)

Are you saying that keeping the current kings of the west at their status is what gives kotd their power?

**Profess** · 12-30-2017, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PJ Sumroc

word, but thats why i mentioned people like Diz and Pass. Only a matter of time before Illmac gets a west URL matchup after that RBE performance and who knows with the right matchup Saurus could get one too.

With BOTZ,Ruin Your Day, LA Battlegroundz, Skytier NW, and now URL the whole "The west needs KOTD" statement just isnt true anymore IMO

Couldn't agree more. Illmac recently mentioned on watch that he wants in for the upcoming bay area URL event.

**Profess** · 12-30-2017, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 6000GP

I agree with you to a degree, but I think mumbles might’ve been talking about the old grind time or “fresh coast” guys when he was referring to “the kings of the west”. I could be wrong tho

Mumbles was talking about The Saurus probably. His match with Geechi gotti will be interesting ...

**iamHBY** · 12-30-2017, 04:38 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if Illmac vs. Brizz Rawsteen eventually happens on one of the small room SMACK events at some point in 2018.

**PJ Sumroc** · 12-30-2017, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Profess

Mumbles was talking about The Saurus probably. His match with Geechi gotti will be interesting ...

Looking forward to Geechi/Saurus. Would be dope to see Saurus on the bay area URL card

**PJ Sumroc** · 12-30-2017, 05:06 PM

Also Illmac and Geechi were joking around about doing a 2on2...that shit would be FIRE on URL West

**RickyProehl** · 12-30-2017, 05:24 PM

Diz 2-1 imo

**Emancee** · 12-30-2017, 06:16 PM

I think KOTD is safe from a total URL takeover as a lot of the talent doesn't match the brand. I doubt Fresco, Saurus, PNut, Rone etc would ever really find a longterm home on URL without changing their style and alienating their audience.

The bigger danger is someone like Diz or even Avo forming a league out in the West (Like Shox and Shotty have done in the UK). Except possibly Saurus, I doubt any of the Westcoasters really have any loyalty to KOTD.

**iamHBY** · 12-30-2017, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Emancee

I think KOTD is safe from a total URL takeover as a lot of the talent doesn't match the brand. I doubt Fresco, Saurus, PNut, Rone etc would ever really find a longterm home on URL without changing their style and alienating their audience.

The bigger danger is someone like Diz or even Avo forming a league out in the West (Like Shox and Shotty have done in the UK). Except possibly Saurus, I doubt any of the Westcoasters really have any loyalty to KOTD.

Wait, what league did Shox form out in the UK? Chalked Out Battles?

**god level** · 12-30-2017, 06:50 PM

Haven't watched yet but this is already fire

**r3flex** · 12-30-2017, 08:38 PM

This is what happens when people think they're "bosses" but don't know actual business. So he signed a deal to battle where he took a cut in pay. So? That happens all the time. If you agreed to it, then you agreed. Next time don't agree. Then he signed said deal without a back end deal that would've given him a percentage of ppv, gate, adsense, etc.?

So he sees how successful it was AFTER the fact and wants more money that wasn't in the original contract? That's not how it works. He got Barry Gordy'd. Wrote a song, sold it to motown for $100, the song went platinum and now he wants more money? Doesn't work that way.

**RickyProehl** · 12-30-2017, 08:46 PM

Lmk when the third eppy drops

**Emancee** · 12-30-2017, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by iamHBY

Wait, what league did Shox form out in the UK? Chalked Out Battles?

Yeah, pretty sure Shox is one of the two owners of that league

**ICeeZeeI** · 12-30-2017, 09:06 PM

URL has him for a couple more battles............So what happens after he ruins all of them?

LMFAO

**iamHBY** · 12-30-2017, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Emancee

Yeah, pretty sure Shox is one of the two owners of that league

Duly noted then. I knew Danny Jacq owned Code Red, and that Shotty is one of the people behind Premier, cool to know that Shox is one of the owners of Chalked Out (especially since they have a cool card coming up in February).

**Profess** · 12-31-2017, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by PJ Sumroc

Looking forward to Geechi/Saurus. Would be dope to see Saurus on the bay area URL card

It would be a shame if he wasn't. Saurus gets a bad rap with the smack crowd.

**Neanderthol** · 12-31-2017, 02:25 AM

So Fresco bought GT but Diz claims is was by proxy for KOTD-hmmn interesting
I understand Diz is mad cuz he wanted to buy GT but oh well it aint happen but why he would think he should somehow own rights to his footage when he wasn't the one to buy it is beyond me

Honestly if KOTD is going to keep on saying nothing on the subject then this is a clear body of KOTD by Diz

I think he needs medical help
I think he is confused about how business works; this is akin to Triple H getting pissed every time an action figure is bought BUT in this particular game:mums the word=you lose

all the groups are spreading these around like Diz is speaking the gospel; people that don't usually een fuck wit Diz at all

KOTD lookin shaky baby

**azhotazice** · 12-31-2017, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by erfworm

The guy is really unbearable...

Are people involved in battle rap ever aware that there are other career paths available?

Easy to say when you haven’t dedicated your whole life to it, no one has done more for battle rap as a whole than him.

**Emancee** · 12-31-2017, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by azhotazice

Easy to say when you haven’t dedicated your whole life to it, no one has done more for battle rap as a whole than him.

I agree with the first part. If someone offered me like 20 stacks to write man poems on top of my regular job, I would be all about that.

The second part though confuses me. Diz is important for sure, but Lush, Ganik, Smack, Beasley, hell even Bishop are far more important than Diz. Even as battlers go, regarding contributions to da culture Arsonal is infinitely more important. Arsonal brought us Lux vs Hollow; Diz brought us Caddy dressed as a KKK grand wizard getting paintballed by Daylyt...

**Emancee** · 12-31-2017, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Emancee

Arsonal brought us Lux vs Hollow; Diz brought us Caddy dressed as a KKK grand wizard getting paintballed by Daylyt...

Also a metaphor for their careers as a whole, lol.

**azhotazice** · 12-31-2017, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Emancee

I agree with the first part. If someone offered me like 20 stacks to write man poems on top of my regular job, I would be all about that.

The second part though confuses me. Diz is important for sure, but Lush, Ganik, Smack, Beasley, hell even Bishop are far more important than Diz. Even as battlers go, regarding contributions to da culture Arsonal is infinitely more important. Arsonal brought us Lux vs Hollow; Diz brought us Caddy dressed as a KKK grand wizard getting paintballed by Daylyt...

I mean like he’s rapped in other countries and other languages for the sake of getting paid and further exposing battle rap in parts of the world like Germany, Russia, The Phillipines and The Middle East. Battled all the big name artists he’s one of the few as much as you hate he embodies this shit.

**Bruceleroy** · 12-31-2017, 05:55 PM

Diz really doubling down on using the n word.

**All Day** · 12-31-2017, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Emancee

Arsonal brought us Lux vs Hollow; Diz brought us Caddy dressed as a KKK grand wizard getting paintballed by Daylyt...

lmaooooo

**Profess** · 12-31-2017, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Neanderthol

So Fresco bought GT

Fresco bought GT?

**6000GP** · 12-31-2017, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Profess

Fresco bought GT?

Ya, what’s this about? Source?

**PJ Sumroc** · 01-01-2018, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 6000GP

Ya, what’s this about? Source?

yeah Maddillz sold GT to Fresco and Wird Of Play. It was pretty common knowledge for minute there. At one point they got in an argument with Mosh Jelton and privated several of his battles ...I only heard about it on Talkback before leaving the group

**PJ Sumroc** · 01-01-2018, 12:21 AM

Maddillz was just talking about selling to Fresco on his twitter the other day too I believe

**6000GP** · 01-01-2018, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by PJ Sumroc

yeah Maddillz sold GT to Fresco and Wird Of Play. It was pretty common knowledge for minute there. At one point they got in an argument with Mosh Jelton and privated several of his battles ...I only heard about it on Talkback before leaving the group

Huh... have they talked about any plans for it? Or is nothing gonna change?

**iamHBY** · 01-01-2018, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PJ Sumroc

Maddillz was just talking about selling to Fresco on his twitter the other day too I believe

I'm still trying to figure out how Fresco and Wird Of Pley got into buying leagues, and selling them to other people for a lower fee (since I believe that's what also happened with iBattle earlier this year).

**PJ Sumroc** · 01-01-2018, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 6000GP

Huh... have they talked about any plans for it? Or is nothing gonna change?

no idea, ive heard nothing since they purchased it

**swishcheese** · 01-01-2018, 05:33 PM

On one hand, I understand where Diz is coming from. He's probably strapped for money and it's coming at a time where he's finding out how much he really could have - and should have - been pulling in from KOTD. And with getting lowballed by the Oxy battle, I can empathize how torn he must be feeling inside, especially with how important he thinks he was/is to KOTD.

On the other hand, I'm not really a fan of Diz as a rapper or an artist. Who are all these people buying PPV to watch him? He's totally gassed himself with statements like that. Making ultimatums on youtube and creating long-ass videos where you act dramatic for 15+ min is a REALLY desperate look and doesn't make him a sympathetic figure. And the lack of accountability in these videos is stark in contrast to his charges against KOTD. I mean, it takes 2 parties to put a contract in affect, so by signing your name, you did it to yourself. You have to at least acknowledge some responsibility on that if you want me to give you a charitable hearing

**Neanderthol** · 01-01-2018, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 6000GP

Ya, what’s this about? Source?

LOL when I was looking for this I saw lots of hilarity on Mad Illz page, the extended full version of the above convo with Debo (shitting on Drect,) strange epiphanies, and a Diz-esque multi-post rant on Lush, calling him out for a MMA type fight LMAO-BR stays on one nowadays

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**PJ Sumroc** · 01-01-2018, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Neanderthol

https://twitter.com/MADDILLZ/status/946887253791473664

https://twitter.com/MADDILLZ/status/946888783416487941

LOL when I was looking for this I saw lots of hilarity on Mad Illz page, the extended full version of the above convo with Debo (shitting on Drect,) strange epiphanies, and a Diz-esque multi-post rant on Lush, calling him out for a MMA type fight LMAO-BR stays on one nowadays

yeah i saw him ranting about Lush not accepting his MMA challenge..claiming that him and his backers would even pay him $10k lol

**MrMumbles905** · 01-01-2018, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 6000GP

I agree with you to a degree, but I think mumbles might’ve been talking about the old grind time or “fresh coast” guys when he was referring to “the kings of the west”. I could be wrong tho

Correct

Te King of the Fresch Coast are still the Thesaurus Illmac and those.

**MrMumbles905** · 01-01-2018, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Emancee

I think KOTD is safe from a total URL takeover as a lot of the talent doesn't match the brand. I doubt Fresco, Saurus, PNut, Rone etc would ever really find a longterm home on URL without changing their style and alienating their audience.

The bigger danger is someone like Diz or even Avo forming a league out in the West (Like Shox and Shotty have done in the UK). Except possibly Saurus, I doubt any of the Westcoasters really have any loyalty to KOTD.

This is how I see it as well.

If Avo formed a FreshCoast League. That would be trouble for KOTD