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Old 06-19-2014, 10:27 AM   #161
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No words to accurately describe how horrendously fucking stupid ass napkin is. Shit was Funny at first but now is coming off as depressing. Kids aggressively stupid.
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Old 06-19-2014, 10:28 AM   #162
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'Why do you 'Personally' think whites no longer fill up the prison population and have been replaced by blacks in this present day in time?
What are some of the reasons that 'You' think is the cause of this epidemic?
Can you Please give your personal reasons without deviation and being vague
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Old 06-19-2014, 10:35 AM   #163
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Can I ask the White People viewing.......

Is @OGBone, after 3 threads of me asking the same question, practicing racism?
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also let me ask White People this - since this is an Open Discussion of Honesty

Do you think it is logical and wise, for Black People to trust and befriend White People, and would you, if you were a Non-White Person?
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Kids either trolling or retarded.


How can someone say actual racist things(would you be friends with a white person)but claim there is an imaginary current white on black war in America?

I don't have answer. I'm asking you.
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Kids either trolling or retarded.


How can someone say actual racist things(would you be friends with a white person)but claim there is an imaginary current white on black war in America?

I don't have answer. I'm asking you.
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'Why do you 'Personally' think whites no longer fill up the prison population and have been replaced by blacks in this present day in time?
What are some of the reasons that 'You' think is the cause of this epidemic?
Can you Please give your personal reasons without deviation and being vague

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Old 06-19-2014, 04:57 PM   #167
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Racism is still an ongoing in america ..But it is being overshadow by the gays.
Which doesn't make sense to me.

I remember the time i got pulled over for driving while black.
The cop of course told me, i fit the description of a murder suspect...gtfoh.
I think racism has turned more into stereotypes, now a days.
But i guess you can consider stereotypes a form of racism tho.
omg sorry bruh I always thought you were a white guy who said nigga alot.

well this changed my pov lol
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The economic system is racist, but it's not like white people are unscathed by it. The white elites didn't protect white populations when they were being thrown under the bus in the 70s and 80s, as the manufacturers jetted to the 2nd and 3rd world. But on the flip-side you could say that whites were disproportionately affected, because they were fortunate enough to have jobs in the first place.

Most white Americans didn't directly benefit from the top marginal tax rates plummeting below 50%, and they still don't. Most white people don't directly benefit from Capital Gains Taxes being so low. But then again, black people endure worse hardship as a result of fiscal conservatism.

Where I'm from, which isn't the USA, some businesses would rather employ immigrants than their white compatriots.

And it's not like black people don't also dervive benefits from free trade capitalism. Surely they will enjoy buying excellently designed imported products at cheap prices.

And surely black people in Western Europe get better healthcare than many white Americans. If the US government was so racist, surely they wouldn't allow their favourite race to experience lower quality healthcare at bank breaking costs, when European black people avoid those obstacles.

I agree with Throwback Mike's theory that the Oprahs and P Diddys are just weapons to counter attack minorities when they complain about oppression. And they also serve the purpose of encouraging people to believe they can also prosper if they work hard enough, which is just a sisyphean pipe-dream.
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if u guys know of employers who hire white ppl less qualified than black applicants....

its ur job to slap them in the face


imo yall fabricating shit to b fuckin honest
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but plz keep discussing ur hypothetical scenarios that arent true
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Great Analogy ^^

White People still own Black People which is why you see movies and tv shows with black men in dresses
White Women will still attempt to 'pet' your children on the head in supermarkets
White Racists do see blacks as their pets, they will sleep with them, eat with them, take them for walks in the parks, clean up their shit
but when little blackie gets out of line, there comes the newspaper hit on the nose to let you know who the boss is......you can't out-gangster the white men, he has eradicated continents of non-white people., and is the master when it comes to violence and deception
Where I agree with your premise, this post implies a lot of things I think you don't want it to. America isn't publicly 'racist' (i don't like using that word as it means hundreds of different things at this point) but it sure as hell is still racist. What you're implying is that white people day to day act with racism when it's more of a big picture kind of deal. interpersonal race relations in the ghettos and low-income areas of the country are ok right now.
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Where I agree with your premise, this post implies a lot of things I think you don't want it to. America isn't publicly 'racist' (i don't like using that word as it means hundreds of different things at this point) but it sure as hell is still racist. What you're implying is that white people day to day act with racism when it's more of a big picture kind of deal. interpersonal race relations in the ghettos and low-income areas of the country are ok right now.
That is exactly what I am saying.
People are needed to uphold systems and institutions
White Racism Supremacy is a 'business' that operates in 9 major areas of activity which are Economics, Education, Entertainment, Labor, Law,Politics
Religion, Sex and War.
'White People' have to be doing something daily, whether consciously or subconsciously, to promote this system and to make sure its functions remain in working order.
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That is exactly what I am saying.
People are needed to uphold systems and institutions
White Racism Supremacy is a 'business' that operates in 9 major areas of activity which are Economics, Education, Entertainment, Labor, Law,Politics
Religion, Sex and War.
'White People' have to be doing something daily, whether consciously or subconsciously, to promote this system and to make sure its functions remain in working order.
That's why I didn't want to use the word racism. Social racism, so to speak is a dying breed. But inherent and undermined racism is live and well on a day to day basis. I've only skimmed this thread, but Ed what is your opinion on fixing the situation?
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That's why I didn't want to use the word racism. Social racism, so to speak is a dying breed. But inherent and undermined racism is live and well on a day to day basis. I've only skimmed this thread, but Ed what is your opinion on fixing the situation?
Well Racism is White Supremacy. From the highest institutions and systems (politics, laws, medical, education, labor, economics) down to the lowest personal exchanges among people, because its based on the idea of maintaining and living in a system of White Dominance.

If 5 people are in a room and a wallet is stolen - it makes all 5 people suspects
If 2 of them conspired to do it and did it, and the other 3 knew but looked the other way - Would that not make all parties involved and somewhat guilty for letting an injustice take place?

If whites never owned slaves but their neighbors did and they always looked the other way and never did anything about the mistreatment of others, and now today, their offspring benefit from that time, and have no interest in replacing the system of Injustice, It is possible that they are Racist Suspects and possibly White Supremacists.

what do I plan to do?

Make an attempt to stop the mistreatment of Non-White People and replace the system of white supremacy aka racism which is a system of 'Injustice'
with one of 'Justice'
which means a system in which those who need the most help would receive it first and no one would be mistreated based on any 'ism'
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Well Racism is White Supremacy. From the highest institutions and systems (politics, laws, medical, education, labor, economics) down to the lowest personal exchanges among people, because its based on the idea of maintaining and living in a system of White Dominance.

If 5 people are in a room and a wallet is stolen - it makes all 5 people suspects
If 2 of them conspired to do it and did it, and the other 3 knew but looked the other way - Would that not make all parties involved and somewhat guilty for letting an injustice take place?

If whites never owned slaves but their neighbors did and they always looked the other way and never did anything about the mistreatment of others, and now today, their offspring benefit from that time, and have no interest in replacing the system of Injustice, It is possible that they are Racist Suspects and possibly White Supremacists.

what do I plan to do?

Make an attempt to stop the mistreatment of Non-White People and replace the system of white supremacy aka racism which is a system of 'Injustice'
with one of 'Justice'
which means a system in which those who need the most help would receive it first and no one would be mistreated based on any 'ism'
Homie that isn't a plan. That's an idea. But to be fair, the issue needs millions upon millions of people to relentlessly support. And with the wallet example, I think the biggest issue is that white america is convinced that there aren't any problems. IDK what the best method of changing that problem is, but that seems like it has to be the first step
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Homie that isn't a plan. That's an idea. But to be fair, the issue needs millions upon millions of people to relentlessly support.
I agree, but I have nothing else better to do
I am turning my 'idea' into a plan of action everyday
by creating awareness any chance i get.
this could be a piece to solve a bigger puzzle, or maybe not
but giving out constructive information is what i have come up with so far
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Homie that isn't a plan. That's an idea. But to be fair, the issue needs millions upon millions of people to relentlessly support. And with the wallet example, I think the biggest issue is that white america is convinced that there aren't any problems. IDK what the best method of changing that problem is, but that seems like it has to be the first step
well, if you were white, you would have a system in place that works for you and benefits you - would you wanna change that?
therefore all whites are 'racist suspects' and possibly white supremacists

if you have an opportunity to be a racist, in a situation where it benefits you to mistreat non-white people - more than likely you would be a White Supremacist.
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well, if you were white, you would have a system in place that works and benefits you - would you wanna change that?
therefore all whites are 'racist suspects' and possibly white supremacists

if you have an opportunity to be a racist, in a situation where it benefits you to mistreat non-white people - more than likely you would be a White Supremacist.
Being white, I do want to change it. Am I doing anything about it? Nope. But tbh, I probably would do something about it if I saw more of black america voice their opinions. It's hard to get on board fighting for a cause when the central group that should be fighting the hardest just isn't.
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Being white, I do want to change it. Am I doing anything about it? Nope. But tbh, I probably would do something about it if I saw more of black america voice their opinions. It's hard to get on board fighting for a cause when the central group that should be fighting the hardest just isn't.
well its a slippery slope there as well,
because do you think its wise for black people to trust white people?
Especially those who say they want to help us.
would it be a logical thing to do considering the history of these two people.

I could have a lion cub and a hyena cub who play with each other all day as baby cubs. but knowing the history they have with each other, would it be wise to raise hyenas in the same cage with lions?

Whites have a documented history of terrorizing non-white people.
Should non-white people now believe Whites want to help us solve any of our many problems?

If you were black, how do you think you would feel about this idea?
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well its a slippery slope there as well,
because do you think its wise for black people to trust white people?
Especially those who say they want to help us.
would it be a logical thing to do considering the history of these two people.

I could have a lion cub and a hyena cub who play with each other all day as baby cubs. but knowing the history they have with each other, would it be wise to raise hyenas in the same cage with lions?

Whites have a documented history of terrorizing non-white people.
Should non-white people now believe Whites want to help us solve any of our many problems?

If you were black, how do you think you would feel about this idea?
It's impossible for me to gauge how I would feel if I was black. The adversity I have had to deal with in my life has never been race related (at least major stuff) so it's very difficult to say. But I honestly believe that we are at a point where blacks and whites can work together harmoniously. I can understand why blacks would be hesitant of the idea, but the whites who would most likely get behind this movement the strongest (21-30 year olds) were born after the worst of the horrible treatments of blacks.
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It's impossible for me to gauge how I would feel if I was black. The adversity I have had to deal with in my life has never been race related (at least major stuff) so it's very difficult to say. But I honestly believe that we are at a point where blacks and whites can work together harmoniously. I can understand why blacks would be hesitant of the idea, but the whites who would most likely get behind this movement the strongest (21-30 year olds) were born after the worst of the horrible treatments of blacks.
what makes you believe that whites and blacks can work together harmoniously, and was there ever a time when this has happened?
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what makes you believe that whites and blacks can work together harmoniously, and was there ever a time when this has happened?
I think in the last decade, culturally the usa has improved a ridiculous amount. Doesn't have anything to do with Obama being elected either. With the emergence of the internet, social awareness is at an all time high and people are held accountable for nearly every actions. Maybe I am just a dreamer who likes to believe everybody is lovey-dovey, but I honestly think now is a time where racial/cultural/gendral equality can and needs to be addressed in full.
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I think in the last decade, culturally the usa has improved a ridiculous amount. Doesn't have anything to do with Obama being elected either. With the emergence of the internet, social awareness is at an all time high and people are held accountable for nearly every actions. Maybe I am just a dreamer who likes to believe everybody is lovey-dovey, but I honestly think now is a time where racial/cultural/gendral equality can and needs to be addressed in full.
I would expect someone white to say this.
you probably believe in the Easter Bunny too huh?
Interesting, Whites often lump White Racism in with 'cultural/gender' equality also. Its becoming more obvious that whites see these things synonymous with mistreating non-white people
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you probably believe in the Easter Bunny too huh?
Interesting, Whites often lump White Racism in with 'cultural/gender' equality also. Its becoming more obvious that whites see these things synonymous with mistreating non-white people
lol. Not only did you misintepret what I said, but managed to do it while belittling my opinion. Cool.
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lol. Not only did you misintepret what I said, but managed to do it while belittling my opinion. Cool.
Oh I agree, I have no doubt that I am not confused when it comes to White People

I suppose Jordan Davis, Oscar Grant, Trayvon, Chicago, The Vegas Shootings, Elliot Rodger, and the Privatized Prisons multiplying within 10 years with Non- Whites males, etc etc etc etc

are all signs for white people that things are getting better
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I suppose Jordan Davis, Oscar Grant, Trayvon, Chicago, The Vegas Shootings, Elliot Rodger, and the Privatized Prisons multiplying within 10 years with Non- Whites males, etc etc etc etc

are all signs for white people that things are getting better
So you honestly think that the system is reflective of everyday white opinions? If that's the case, then I 100% disagree.
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So you honestly think that the system is reflective of everyday white opinions? If that's the case, then I 100% disagree.
I think the system mistreats non-white people and has never worked for people of color due to this idea of white supremacy
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That isn't what I asked you. Yes our country has an atrocious history of white supremacy. Yes as recently as 50 years ago blacks didn't have the same basic rights as white. Yes currently white people don't particularly care about changing the system. But for the majority, it isn't because they believe themselves to be better or because they are afraid they will lose jobs/opportunities to blacks. It is because a huge majority of black people don't even understand their is still inequality. And to be perfectly fair (and we've gone over this in this thread) there is very little the average person can do. This is a problem that, even with the correct solution put in place, would take years upon years to fix.

But please don't for a second put words in my mouth and thoughts in my head that I have never for a second felt. As a black man, you also can't imagine what it's like to be white, so stop with the incredulous accusations and generalizations for the entire white population of america.
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That isn't what I asked you. Yes our country has an atrocious history of white supremacy. Yes as recently as 50 years ago blacks didn't have the same basic rights as white. Yes currently white people don't particularly care about changing the system. But for the majority, it isn't because they believe themselves to be better or because they are afraid they will lose jobs/opportunities to blacks. It is because a huge majority of black people don't even understand their is still inequality. And to be perfectly fair (and we've gone over this in this thread) there is very little the average person can do. This is a problem that, even with the correct solution put in place, would take years upon years to fix.

But please don't for a second put words in my mouth and thoughts in my head that I have never for a second felt. As a black man, you also can't imagine what it's like to be white, so stop with the incredulous accusations and generalizations for the entire white population of america.
- 50 years ago blacks were in a much better place, economically, families united, extremely low incarceration among young black males, more black businesses, more black home and land owners

- If there is anything Blacks understand crystal clear - is Inequality. I think one of the biggest mistakes White People make is often telling black people how they 'think' and how they 'feel' about something. Maybe it would be more wise to ask people of color their thoughts as opposed to telling them their thoughts.

- I would never do that, which why I constantly ask questions, rather than assume how you think or how you feel without asking you first

- can you give an example of my accusations?
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- 50 years ago blacks were in a much better place, economically, families united, extremely low incarceration among young black males, more black businesses, more black home and land owners

- If there is anything Blacks understand crystal clear - is Inequality. I think one of the biggest mistakes White People make is often telling black people how they 'think' and how they 'feel' about something. Maybe it would be more wise to ask people of color their thoughts as opposed to telling them their thoughts.

- I would never do that, which why I constantly ask questions, rather than assume how you think or how you feel without asking you first

- can you give an example of my accusations?
"i would expect someone white to say this. You probably believe in the easter bunny too". Comparing a claim to something as trivial as the easter bunny is pretty low, especially when you only see from one side of the spectrum. Having open thoughts and feelings is never a mistake. If black and white people can't tell people how they feel than how do you expect them to be able to come together? I guess you don't think they can at this point.

I believe the incarceration rate, but do you have a stat supporting economically? And what exactly do you mean by economically? How much does that encompass.
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"i would expect someone white to say this. You probably believe in the easter bunny too". Comparing a claim to something as trivial as the easter bunny is pretty low, especially when you only see from one side of the spectrum. Having open thoughts and feelings is never a mistake. If black and white people can't tell people how they feel than how do you expect them to be able to come together? I guess you don't think they can at this point.

I believe the incarceration rate, but do you have a stat supporting economically? And what exactly do you mean by economically? How much does that encompass.
- Yes, when you say things like Race Relations are getting better and add things like 'Gender' relations as if there is a commonality between Race and Gender - you are speaking as if Life is full of miracles, unicorns, and fairy tales. You are speaking of a non realities Sir

- I don't believe they will ever come together under this system of White Supremacy

- Economically, I mean the wealth was most solely distributed among their own businesses and communities before 'integration' There was cohesiveness, there was Pride in being a land owner and a home owner, there was pride in black fathers being in the home. Economics doesn't always mean money, it is also the system of circulating money among your own community, much like all other groups of people do, Koreans, Jews, Italians, etc

Integration with White People - has always been the biggest problem for Non-White People in this soil...

I say no different than what Malcolm, Garvey, Noble Drew Ali, etc say

Its all still relevant today
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