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Old 10-25-2015, 03:00 AM   #1
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Where is Fresco now in the pecking order?

Dude just had a ridiculous performance against Thesaurus. He beat him pretty unquestionably. I know he doesn't battle often, but off that battle alone, KOTD has got to put him amongst their best, hell I think Illmac is crazy but I haven't seen an Illmac performance ever that would beat him tonight. Who should Fresco battle next?
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I just voted for him on the kotd ppv. He was the best easily.
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fresco would do extremely well on URL. if the crowd could look past his appearance and get over the whole "credibility" stigma against white rappers (which i'm sure they could do), i could imagine the crowd loving him.

charron went in NY and made self deprecating jokes for almost a whole round and NY ate it up. if he could do that, fresco would be fine.
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fresco would do extremely well on URL. if the crowd could look past his appearance and get over the whole "credibility" stigma against white rappers (which i'm sure they could do), i could imagine the crowd loving him.

charron went in NY and made self deprecating jokes for almost a whole round and NY ate it up. if he could do that, fresco would be fine.
I dunno man, look at Mook vs Solomon with the Zimmerman jokes for example. I think Fresco would have a tough time unless he faced the right opponent, like if he battled a B Magic, he'd be fine because the guy just uses bars. But if he battled someone like Arsonal who gets super disrespectful, he could end up having the whole crowd turn against him very fast.
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I dunno man, look at Mook vs Solomon with the Zimmerman jokes for example. I think Fresco would have a tough time unless he faced the right opponent, like if he battled a B Magic, he'd be fine because the guy just uses bars. But if he battled someone like Arsonal who gets super disrespectful, he could end up having the whole crowd turn against him very fast.
i don't think mindless disrespect could sway the crowd over lyrical ability. the only reason mook won the crowd in his battle with iron was because iron was at his worst. had he come with heat, those jokes wouldn't have been as effective imo.

also, mook has the star power. he could fart on the mic and the NY crowd would still cheer for him. so unless fresco makes his debut against someone with the same amount of popularity (like a surf, tay, cal, etc.), it's hard to imagine that he'd out-shined to that degree. but that's a very, very unlikely case.
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Finally people are coming to their senses. Tbh i was genuinely worried he'd fuck it up against Thesaurus because they've battled previously, but apparently he's had a second breakout performance. Good shit.
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he's a breath of fresh air. he had amazing lines a great performance but a better reception. don't forget real deal had a slight upheaval doing the same thing fresco is doing. as much as I appreciate both of there performances I feel like the general consensus will grow tired of it if he A. battles to often. or B. battles the wrong person. but if he gets pen vs pen battles he'll do great.
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he's a breath of fresh air. he had amazing lines a great performance but a better reception. don't forget real deal had a slight upheaval doing the same thing fresco is doing. as much as I appreciate both of there performances I feel like the general consensus will grow tired of it if he A. battles to often. or B. battles the wrong person. but if he gets pen vs pen battles he'll do great.
Real Deal and Fresco rap nothing alike, and the fans turning on Real Deal has to do with his predictability - once upon a time being charmingly direct - becoming a crutch of his. Angles are only good when they're effective, and obvious angles have stopped being effective excepting for top tier execution (a la Lux's third vs Clips - and even then there was backlash).

Fresco on the other hand, completely ignoring the fact he can rap circles around Real Deal, actually has bars and has always had bars. Plus he has the it factor.
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time will tell. picking the right opponent is pertinent tho
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His next opponent after Cruger should be a punchliner I think. Rum Nitty, B Magic, Conceited, or Bigg K - preferably Magic or Con.

He COULD go for a strict writer, like a Bender or a Soul, but that runs the risk of it turning awkward if both opponents shelve the aggression and go for trying to write potent material.

I dunno, honestly. I think Fresco and Magic is my favorite matchup for him right now. I'd say wait for him to get a url battle or something and let him battle magic on the url stage but they'd probably try to make Fresco run the gauntlet in the PGs, which would be dumb as hell.
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The one thing I love about his performance here is that he didn't really do angles, he did a bit, but didn't overdo them. He just barred out. Probably why Saurus was so into his performance and giving him props, he just got beat with bars, not nonsense about shit he's heard a hundred times before.
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Old 10-25-2015, 05:43 AM   #17
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Fresco easy MVP of this ppv. He'd do just fine on any league.
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I been wanting Magic vs Fresco

Sounds like he got a spot on my top 10 once the battle drops
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I had a feeling fresco would kill this shit

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charron went in NY and made self deprecating jokes for almost a whole round and NY ate it up. if he could do that, fresco would be fine.
If Fresco takes the Charron rout, I will stop being interested in seeing him battle (And lose a lot of respect for him as a man). This is a rap BATTLE, you don't throw yourself under the bus so you can get some approval from the crowd. Fresco should keep doing what he'd doing, bars for guys at the venue, bars for youtubers to catch and swag for days. Leave that kowtowing, I'm not worthy stuff to chumps like Charron.
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Definitely Cruger vs Fresco is a perfect next match. Both think so far outside the box, Eurgh has a potential classic on his hands.
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seeing Fresco wash Bigg K would be pretty interesting...Bigg K isn't physically aggressive enough and animated enough to neutralize anything Fresco has.
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Jesus christ Fresco killed that battle. Been a favourite of mine for 5+ years but never seen him quite that on point before.

Cruger should have a fair idea what he's up against after this. That battle should be incredible.

Also, maybe a weird idea but I think Fresco vs Troy Brown on DF USA could be a good lowkey type matchup.
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Lmfao at niggas acting like Fresco being dope is surprising

I still have nightmares about what he did to Nikoteen
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If Charron can succeed on URL talking about how little his dick is, I find it hard to believe that one of the best gun bar rappers wouldn't do well
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Lmfao at niggas acting like Fresco being dope is surprising

I still have nightmares about what he did to Nikoteen
Came here to say this tbh, and the Mr Biscuit Christianity verse was crazy too.

Fresco's concept/scheme rounds are ridiculous. I'm glad the Thesaurus battle got him more attention, he deserves it imo.
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Lmfao at niggas acting like Fresco being dope is surprising

I still have nightmares about what he did to Nikoteen

this.... fresco been dope for years now
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Let's see how he does against cruger... Could be an amazing battle
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fresco's pen is fire

but i'm not sold on his performance yet... granted i havent seen this battle...
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fresco's pen is fire

but i'm not sold on his performance yet... granted i havent seen this battle...
his performance game improved a lot for this battle

it was most like his mr biscuit battle

he was a lot louder and aggressive
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nice..

fresco prob just found a $100 bill in his "pocket"... lmfao goofy
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Just watched thesaurus battle and fresco was relentless each round. Good fucking lord. Definitely best performance of the night.

I agree with you maple because right after I saw this I was reminded of that mr. biscuit battle where he went to CO and killed the dude. I always go back to that one.

Great job Fresco. I think dude is better than illmac at battling. He is probably #1 in KOTD after this saurus battle. He seems like a really smart guy and I think he could potentially murder if he crossed over to URL. I think he would pick the right shit to rap about in that situation and the crowd would love him.
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fresco's pen is fire

but i'm not sold on his performance yet... granted i havent seen this battle...
Fresco also has one of the greatest of all time rebuttals against Soul Khan. "I wouldn't even mind bodying Soul." responding to some yoga bar soul khan spit. Could have been a pre but who cares.
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Fresco also has one of the greatest of all time rebuttals against Soul Khan. "I wouldn't even mind bodying Soul." responding to some yoga bar soul khan spit. Could have been a pre but who cares.
yeah, fresco bodied sk but sk was always more of a crowd favorite
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Genuinely think his 3rd against Thesaurus is one of the best rounds I've seen. Ridiculous.
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