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Old 08-16-2014, 05:20 PM   #41
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E Ness won, that is the consensus now. I really admire the people who saw that Ness won at the time, even I was fooled. People who did not hail the return of Iron Solomon were persecuted worse than the girls from the Salem witch trials.
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There is also a big difference between creative and well written. Hollohan's I hate natives song was well written but full of hate. I hope he's doing okay though and can learn from his mistakes. I don't like the guy at all but I think he's in a really dark (no pun intended) place right now.
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E Ness won, that is the consensus now. I really admire the people who saw that Ness won at the time, even I was fooled. People who did not hail the return of Iron Solomon were persecuted worse than the girls from the Salem witch trials.
This is common opinion of white people who over compensate to be "down".
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There is also a big difference between creative and well written. Hollohan's I hate natives song was well written but full of hate. I hope he's doing okay though and can learn from his mistakes. I don't like the guy at all but I think he's in a really dark (no pun intended) place right now.
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I remember back when I used to do freestyle battles racial humor got no love. I remember this guy Pooley used to always say racial stuff and get bad reactions. He told this fat black dude with a bandana that he looked like Aunt Jemima and everyone booed. I battled the same guy and said his style was weak like Vietnamese trees (M39) in a room full of Vietnamese people. They wanted to fight me cause they thought I said your styles weak like the Vietnamese.
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Old 08-16-2014, 10:10 PM   #46
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i thought Soul Khan won at the time...but looking back, he was pretty mediocre with a great delivery. people LOVED jokes and hated punchlines back then...

if i saw that battle today, i'd say QP won. but i was a new fan when i first saw it, so....
Conceited was one of the most popular battlers around at that time. People definitely didn't hate punchlines.
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Conceited was one of the most popular battlers around at that time. People definitely didn't hate punchlines.
Hollow 3-0ed him still.
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Old 08-16-2014, 11:08 PM   #48
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@EchosMyron the reason Conceited was popular is because his style of punching is very accessible aka 1-2-3 Punchline. great comedic timing as well... he was a clown who clowned ppl...kind of endearing to the white crowd.

whereas QP was ahead of his time(main reason his stuff didn't work in that battle)...which is the reason his bars have more lasting power than Soul Khan's. SK's style was much more accessible as well... people thought it was hilarious there was a little, witty Jew with great projection.

to win battles back then, you had to have comedic timing and something endearing about you. QP didnt have that back then NEARLY as much as SK. this is not taking anything away from Soul Khan and he admits he did that stuff to appease the crowd.

not saying QP's bars were earth-shattering or anything...but they were very clever for the time, i thought. his style is a lot more complex these days and people are loving it. timing is everything, i guess.
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There is also a big difference between creative and well written. Hollohan's I hate natives song was well written but full of hate. I hope he's doing okay though and can learn from his mistakes. I don't like the guy at all but I think he's in a really dark (no pun intended) place right now.
what song is that???
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howd he get worse at flowing on a beat tho... he was way better on this
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soul khan beat qp
conceited beat illmac
iron solomon beat e-ness

saying the opposite of what is blatantly true isnt cool
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soul khan beat qp
conceited beat illmac
iron solomon beat e-ness

saying the opposite of what is blatantly true isnt cool
while i agree with all of those statements...it's not that simple. some people prefer different shit than the norm.

but yes, according to consensus, you are correct.

i'd like people to view battles based on what they like to see, though... the judging and record-keeping is actually pretty irrelevant when you look at guys' careers.

i.e. you can view SK vs QP and admire SK for his performance and QP for his bars
-you can enjoy Solomon for his haymakers and E Ness for his dope flow
-you can admire Conceited for his punches but Illmac for his freestyle ability.

just enjoy the battle
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soul khan beat qp
conceited beat illmac
iron solomon beat e-ness

saying the opposite of what is blatantly true isnt cool
collarbone trollin!!!
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This is common opinion of white people who over compensate to be "down".
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soul khan beat qp
conceited beat illmac
iron solomon beat e-ness

saying the opposite of what is blatantly true isnt cool
this.
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"this is common opinion of white people who overcompensate to be 'down'"

that's retarded.. i assume people say these things because it is their opinion. anyone who thinks differently is overanalyzing people's opinions... it's silly.
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and how uncool is it to be white?

some of you guys really hate being white...it's amusing.
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Solomon also lost to Flamez and Shirt and Tie. Shit. Iron Solomon has never even won a battle tbh.
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Solomon also lost to Flamez and Shirt and Tie. Shit. Iron Solomon has never even won a battle tbh.
Lmfao...yea I remember those threads where ppl were trying to say he lost to those two and g sizzle...just retarded.
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i always thought e ness beat solomon and qp beat soul khan...

i havent revised anything...
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Jin also beat Iron Solomon. Tbf Iron Solomon has one W verses Math.
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Sometimes revisionism can be on point though. For instance if you take away all the bars Caustic wrote for Arcane Chedda Cheese took that battle.
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Jin also beat Iron Solomon. Tbf Iron Solomon has one W verses Math.
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Ftr, I've always meant that IMO Qp beat SK. I know it's not a fact, just like no one else's opinion is a fact. I assumed this went without saying.
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Ftr, I've always meant that IMO Qp beat SK. I know it's not a fact, just like no one else's opinion is a fact. I assumed this went without saying.
There are no absolutes in battle rap unless one person is really bad or chokes really bad. Even with a bad choke you can still be better than the other guy if he sucks though. A lot of things that sell yourself to a live audience don't translate as well to the online audience and vice versa. There is popular opinion though which seems to shift in many cases.
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There are no absolutes in battle rap unless one person is really bad or chokes really bad. Even with a bad choke you can still be better than the other guy if he sucks though. A lot of things that sell yourself to a live audience don't translate as well to the online audience and vice versa. There is popular opinion though which seems to shift in many cases.
Huh. I guess the question is: does popular opinion = "fact"?

Idk, in a way, it kinda does when it comes to battle rap, and that's too bad
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I generally agree with the real Willy, but I do not have the same opinion of him of B Magic. In my opinion, B Magic is good... but will NEVER be top 5.I think he's the current Big T. Really good at his pinnacle, but the downward spiral is beginning, and is apparent.

And I love Big T <nh>

Maybe I'm just drunk. Whatever. In my spare time, I will never go out of my way to rewatch a B Magic battle. He is battling way too much to make his presence dangerous. The only person who can get away with this much battling and still not lose stock is Charlie Clips.

Prove me wrong.
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Man Ness went so hard against Solomon I thought battle has crazy replay value....
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I generally agree with the real Willy, but I do not have the same opinion of him of B Magic. In my opinion, B Magic is good... but will NEVER be top 5.I think he's the current Big T. Really good at his pinnacle, but the downward spiral is beginning, and is apparent.

And I love Big T <nh>

Maybe I'm just drunk. Whatever. In my spare time, I will never go out of my way to rewatch a B Magic battle. He is battling way too much to make his presence dangerous. The only person who can get away with this much battling and still not lose stock is Charlie Clips.

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