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Old 03-15-2016, 02:23 AM   #121
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Who ever let a little Nazi propaganda get in the way of blind faith?

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Old 03-15-2016, 02:41 AM   #122
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Who ever let a little Nazi propaganda get in the way of blind faith?
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Old 03-15-2016, 03:41 AM   #123
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i love the standards y'all placing on this retard like it's appalling and shocking he's a total retard

this the dude who said the way john clawed the van DAMN!!!!

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this hate is not a representation of people with mental disabilities so maybe use another derogatory adjective
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Old 03-15-2016, 04:01 AM   #126
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I dunno though, like she says at the end "Against someone who has disabilities"

Calling an actual disabled person retarded is def really offensive, same with calling a gay person a faggot.

But when its used generally I tend to look at them both as different words.

I can def see both sides of things. All about perception, you got black folks who are offended by Nigga as much as Nigger because they can't not associate the 2 words, despite the differences.

Similarly you got kids growing up today hearing Faggot and Retard used so casually they don't associate those 2 words with the original intent behind them.

At this point I think a lot of people view retard as just an insulting way to say stupid/idioit/moron and describe disabled people as just being disabled/handicapped.

I def throw retard around a lot but I'm not thinking about chicks like her when I do(Thats for when I jerk off....Too much? lol...)
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Old 03-15-2016, 04:06 AM   #127
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At this point I think a lot of people view retard as just an insulting way to say stupid/idioit/moron and describe disabled people as just being disabled/handicapped.
thats the problem. using it as a derogatory term is completely saying that its a negative thing to have a mental disability

imagine having one or having a love one with one and hearing that
its not even an insult..except to ppl with mental disabilities

i know im annoying with that shit but i only said something cuz 90% of his post was the word in a derogatory way
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i aint on some moral high horse either. i used the term loosely in the past and i got straight blasted on a public bus of 20 people by a family member of someone who has a mental disability

and she was right and had that never happened idk how many ppl i would of hurt without knowing it.. thats y i point it out whenever i can cuz ppl just dont know like i didnt


saying john john is that girl in that video because he spewing hate and false info
who is that insulting exactly?

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thats the problem. using it as a derogatory term is completely saying that its a negative thing to have a mental disability
Mental disabilities aren't a good thing. It is negative to have a mental disability.
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thats the problem. using it as a derogatory term is completely saying that its a negative thing to have a mental disability

imagine having one or having a love one with one and hearing that
its not even an insult..except to ppl with mental disabilities

i know im annoying with that shit but i only said something cuz 90% of his post was the word in a derogatory way
i expect someone with a mental disability to be stupid because that's the issue. i expect someone with enough functioning brain power to use a computer to not deny the holocaust

jjdd is a retard

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thats the problem. using it as a derogatory term is completely saying that its a negative thing to have a mental disability

imagine having one or having a love one with one and hearing that
its not even an insult..except to ppl with mental disabilities

i know im annoying with that shit but i only said something cuz 90% of his post was the word in a derogatory way
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i aint on some moral high horse either. i used the term loosely in the past and i got straight blasted on a public bus of 20 people by a family member of someone who has a mental disability

and she was right and had that never happened idk how many ppl i would of hurt without knowing it.. thats y i point it out whenever i can cuz ppl just dont know like i didnt


saying john john is that girl in that video because he spewing hate and false info
who is that insulting exactly?
I agree that saying "retard" casually is insensitive and it's def something I am guilty of and I need to work on that. I wanted to ask you though, how do you feel about this sort of language being used for the sake of comedy? For example, a few weeks ago on the DBD show they were talking about Organik referring to Charron as a "suicidal retard" and saying "he said it himself!" I though that shit was hilarious. I think highly offensive and insensitive things can and should be used in comedy. It's cheap when it's solely for shock value but packaged with creativity and a message it's gold. Louis CK is really good at walking that line.

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i expect someone with a mental disability to be stupid because that's the issue. i expect someone with enough functioning brain power to use a computer to not deny the holocaust

jjdd is a retard

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You do realize that Michael Scott clips hurts your case right? Lol
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and she was right and had that never happened idk how many ppl i would of hurt without knowing it.. thats y i point it out whenever i can cuz ppl just dont know like i didnt
You could just as easily use this logic to claim it's not okay to say any number of words. My brother got shit sleep because he was up all night studying for a test. When I saw him in the morning I jokingly said "dude it looks like you developed stage 4 leukemia over night." This is using a medical condition as an insult to remark on someones physical appearance. It could very well offend someone with cancer. But only the most overly sensitive or disingenuous among us could think I intended malice toward sick people. You would need to use the least charitable interpretation of my words to be offended.

Similarly an old friend of mine in highschool could never tell when girls were obviously being flirtatious or even straight up flirting. Sometimes I'd tell him "yo what the fuck are you blind?" Using another tragic medical condition as an insult. A way of saying 1. He cant see in the literal sense 2. He lacks the clarity of mind to be aware of his opportunities. Again, this could clearly be offensive to blind people. But offense is rarely given and often taken.

Do you or would you use these words this way? If so can you justify their use considering your stance on the word "retard?" Is it just special pleading to your specific sensibilities because of what happened to you on a bus one time? Or do you think "blind" and my other example are also off the table?

Do you recognize that it's more than a bit exploitative to use that video clip -- clearly as a shaming tactic -- when even the women in the video herself specifies the term not be used against people with mental disabilities? Why are you offended on her behalf when the scenario she's complaining about didn't even happen?

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saying john john is that girl in that video because he spewing hate and false info
who is that insulting exactly?
Deliberately dishonest. Nobody said this. This is the least charitable interpretation possible. You shouldn't have to lie like this to justify your offence.
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John John kind of sucks too. When you think about all the people out there that are somewhat original or unique Jjdd just seems kinda paint by numbers.

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I agree that saying "retard" casually is insensitive and it's def something I am guilty of and I need to work on that. I wanted to ask you though, how do you feel about this sort of language being used for the sake of comedy? For example, a few weeks ago on the DBD show they were talking about Organik referring to Charron as a "suicidal retard" and saying "he said it himself!" I though that shit was hilarious. I think highly offensive and insensitive things can and should be used in comedy. It's cheap when it's solely for shock value but packaged with creativity and a message it's gold. Louis CK is really good at walking that line.



You do realize that Michael Scott clips hurts your case right? Lol
idk thats tuff. when i got put on blast for saying it it wasnt in a derogatory way and i still offended people.. living with a mental disability or some1 with one is such a huge struggle i would never want to add any negativity to their life no matter wat "my intention" is. its how it affects them. now how i perceive it "should" affect them
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Do you recognize that it's more than a bit exploitative to use that video clip -- clearly as a shaming tactic -- when even the women in the video herself specifies the term not be used against people with mental disabilities? Why are you offended on her behalf when the scenario she's complaining about didn't even happen?
ur whole post is so offensive to me. and EG wasnt at all when he said it


nobody is being shamed. nobody is being insulted. the women in the video did specify that. your using a shaming tactic because ur completely ignoring the massive movement (which i clearly talked about) about the world in general and SPECIFICALLY in a derogatory way. being a victim herself is an EXAMPLE of a derogatory way


FACT OF THE MATTER (for anyone else who is as ignorant is this pos)

when you use retard as a synonym for stupid or idiot, you are saying that all people with intellectual disabilities are stupid

^ And this is not fucking true

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@EchosMyron why dont u hear it from ppl who are affected

this video specifically is about people using it not directly and not just in a derogatory way since u wanna attack me for not posting it



yall like to argue but i would put a thousand bucks on any of u guys making any of ur arguments to someone who is affected by this. u wouldnt cuz ur not actually pieces of shit u just like to pretend... i need a break dont expect a response ass hole
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i aint on some moral high horse either. i used the term loosely in the past and i got straight blasted on a public bus of 20 people by a family member of someone who has a mental disability
you lack fundamental social awareness...don't you know that buses
have functions/sections on them especially made for 'disabled people'?

Like...I don't walk into a room full of white people & address my 'nigga'
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"AYE!!!! WADDUP MY NIGGA"!!!!!!


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ur whole post is so offensive to me. and EG wasnt at all when he said it


nobody is being shamed. nobody is being insulted. the women in the video did specify that. your using a shaming tactic because ur completely ignoring the massive movement (which i clearly talked about) about the world in general and SPECIFICALLY in a derogatory way. being a victim herself is an EXAMPLE of a derogatory way
You're rambling. Half this shit makes no sense. I watched the video again and she clearly says "against someone who has a mental disability." Though from how poorly you worded it; it's possible you're acknowledging that. Wouldn't match your tone, though.

Also, dude... Ignoring something isn't a shaming tactic. Which I didn't even do. Deliberately mischaracterizing what someone said to suggest they're directly insulting a little handicapped girl IS a shaming tactic.

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FACT OF THE MATTER (for anyone else who is as ignorant is this pos)

when you use retard as a synonym for stupid or idiot, you are saying that all people with intellectual disabilities are stupid

^ And this is not fucking true
People have different opinions than you. No matter how big you make the font you'll never be the arbiter of metaphorical language. People use the same argument for why you shouldn't call someone a "Pussy." That it's disparaging to all women via the association. Others disagree. There's an argument to be made for both sides of that discussion. Similar to the one I attempted to have with you. The only difference is I dont consider my stance to be the only morally just stance to take. I dont call people who disagree with me "ignorant pieces of shit."

It seems you're incapable of having this discussion because you're too busy getting triggered and typing in size 5 font.

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@EchosMyron why dont u hear it from ppl who are affected

this video specifically is about people using it not directly and not just in a derogatory way since u wanna attack me for not posting it
How did I attack you for not posting this video? I didn't even attack you period. I pointed out you were being dishonest because you were. What the fuck are you talking about? Do you wanna actually address my points or just link to videos parroting your previously established views?

Here's another one you can watch. It's got a celebrity cameo and everything.

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yall like to argue but i would put a thousand bucks on any of u guys making any of ur arguments to someone who is affected by this. u wouldnt cuz ur not actually pieces of shit u just like to pretend... i need a break dont expect a response ass hole
So you're not going to address the actual post. You're just gonna get emotional, call me an asshole and a piece of shit, then rage quit. Wow, what a really great progressive guy you are!

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language is arbitrary. words only hold the meanings we associate with them. the reason things like the current discussion in this thread (which originally had a different topic that was both more entertaining and more unsettling imo) come to be and become so heated is because of the very fact that different people may well have formed very different associations with the same words. it would therefore be retarded as fuck to say everybody who doesn't like using the R-word is a fucking pussy. that's faggot shit.

you see what i did there? i hold absolutely no grudge against handicapped or homosexual people, and i love women (and their vaginas. ooooh yeah). i can still use those words cause if i use them like i did above, for me personally, there's no connection to these more literal definitions of the terms. the entire intention of that sentence was for me to say "it is dumb to say everybody that doesn't like using the R-word is oversensitive. that is an idiotic attitude".

and if you really wanna break it down to what certain words historically meant "originally", you're kind of at a dead-end there. not only would i argue that that is not really relevant in the first place, but then you'd end up with a "faggot" being a bundle of sticks. the relation to a deragatory term for gay men is rather transparent, but that is exactly the point: it's a metaphorical relation. just like taking the same word, keeping the deragatory part but removing the homosexual connection is a metaphorical relation. and words like "stupid" also used to refer specifically to mentally handicapped people.
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John John never elaborated on this joint...

I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he meant that he agrees on the commonly accepted history for Hitler's plan. But considering his other blatantly anti semitic posts about the jewish plot to overthrow America... I can't be sure.

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John John never elaborated on this joint...

I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he meant that he agrees on the commonly accepted history for Hitler's plan. But considering his other blatantly anti semitic posts about the jewish plot to overthrow America... I can't be sure.

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Lol why are you just making baseless assumptions about somebody's race though? I've met him twice, I have no reason to lie.
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John John never elaborated on this joint...

I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he meant that he agrees on the commonly accepted history for Hitler's plan. But considering his other blatantly anti semitic posts about the jewish plot to overthrow America... I can't be sure.

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how stupid would a black man have to be to agree with a plan that ends in the doom of him and his people. i think it's pretty clear he means that he doesn't disagree with the common historical narrative of what Hitler's plan was.
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how stupid would a black man have to be to agree with a plan that ends in the doom of him and his people. i think it's pretty clear he means that he doesn't disagree with the common historical narrative of what Hitler's plan was.
Well stupidity aside because JJDD has proved himself to be plenty stupid over the last few days. My post was saying that his intention was probably that he doesn't dispute the history on that specific point. He's not agreeing or disagreeing with the plan. He's agreeing about what the plan was historically.

But it's funny that the way he worded it makes it seem like he's pro Hitler.
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Lol why are you just making baseless assumptions about somebody's race though? I've met him twice, I have no reason to lie.
I didn't say what he was or wasnt, but I'm still pretty sure that I fixed the quote to be what he meant to say
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I cant argue with that to be fair. He's normally on the nazis side in debates.
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