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Old 09-03-2014, 04:08 PM   #41
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Battle rap isn't a sport.

Don't act like it is one.
I'm not calling it a sport. I personally don't think it's the correct term for battle rap but it's considered a competition and is therefore somewhat analogous to a sport which is why the closest comparisons it can draw is to something like boxing or MMA, even if the analogy begins to breakdown the more to try to find parallels.

It's semantics. Compare it to a poetry slam, a talent show, or a spelling bee instead of a sport if you prefer; substitute the word "sport" for "competition" and my point still stands.

Is there any competition where you compete to see who puts the least effort in and cares the least?
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Didn't Lush One say that Cass is locked in for three battles? If that's the case, we'll be seeing more Cassidy battles regardless, so it's probably not a good idea for him to tank the first one. Besides, I'd guess there are some stipulations and/or incentives in the contract that at least attempt to assure that he'll put in maximum effort.
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Old 09-03-2014, 04:40 PM   #43
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Cassidy should go in

if he doesn`t try Diz can say he destroyed Canabis and Cassidy

also I hope people that dislike Diz
are not the same ppl thinking Em would do good in a battle
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you guys dont think this guy's been paying attention to all the guys calling him out in the battle world? i bet he was "barred up" before he had any knowledge of Diz calling him out.

also, if cass does WELL... his price can go up. if he doesnt do well - yes, he still is "wealthy"...but part of his "legend" is based on him ripping Freeway. as long as he spits quality bars - he's got a debatable battle.

i would argue that he needs a debatable or victory to continue gettin paid like he is now in this battle shit.

remember - guys like Verb could "not try" and still get their price for battles because we have seen multiple classics from him not too long ago. cass, on the other hand, is known for a battle and cyphers OVER A DECADE AGO.

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Old 09-03-2014, 04:57 PM   #45
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Didn't Lush One say that Cass is locked in for three battles? If that's the case, we'll be seeing more Cassidy battles regardless, so it's probably not a good idea for him to tank the first one. Besides, I'd guess there are some stipulations and/or incentives in the contract that at least attempt to assure that he'll put in maximum effort.
In the Vlad interview, Cass seemed to imply that he was getting paid off the backend. Vlad asked if he was getting half before the battle and half after and Cass said he was getting a lump sum before and implied that there may be more complex stipulations in compensation beyond that. I would assume a percentage of the door or the PPV (is there a PPV?) seems plausible but if Lush said Cass is locked in for several battles, maybe it is something more to do with a contract for future battles.
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That's where you're wrong. He's not good, but he's not the worst. He's in the middle. Watch some of his recent battles and tell me some memorable lines. Rambling, stuttering, and everything else involved is your usual Dizaster performance. When was the last time he gave a clean performance? Christ, he even got mad at the KOTD crowd for REACTING to a bar of his. He has zero concentration skills and will use anything as a crutch to make up for his lack of showmanship. If you need examples of this rambling/repeating lines, I'll be happy to provide them.

Dizaster=Mediocrity.
I disagree that he is mediocre I think that is a silly mindset that has no business in reality and most people in battle rap no better.

I think his battle with Pat was pretty good. He battled Pat Arsonal and Verb and win or lose none of them killed him

He is much more than mediocre If he's mediocre than 95% of the battle world is absolutely horrible


Diz doesn't do perfectly memorized write 3 rounds clean performances. But that's one of the things I like about him. I like the mixing of frees and writtens I like him speaking to the crowd when he raps and responding to what is going on that's battle rap to me. Coming with 3 perfectly crafted rhymes where you will never go away or step out of that is boring to me.

Hes got good pen game has some nice punches Great freestyling rebuttal game Good energy

But not being a black URL rapper don't expect you to like him

He was good in the Math battle
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He's not the worst there is by any stretch. Does he do all of the things I mentioned though? Absolutely. The 2 worst things about Dizaster (to me at least) is this psychopathic character he portrays and his superfans. I just don't like it. *shrug* To each his own though.
Literally ever top tier in battle rap has retarded super fans.
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I'm not calling it a sport. I personally don't think it's the correct term for battle rap but it's considered a competition and is therefore somewhat analogous to a sport which is why the closest comparisons it can draw is to something like boxing or MMA, even if the analogy begins to breakdown the more to try to find parallels.

It's semantics. Compare it to a poetry slam, a talent show, or a spelling bee instead of a sport if you prefer; substitute the word "sport" for "competition" and my point still stands.

Is there any competition where you compete to see who puts the least effort in and cares the least?
Its not really a competition but I think a large part of improvisational comedy is not trying and not caring. If you try too hard it comes off as unnatural, and if you care too much you tend to over think what you're doing.

This really has nothing to do with the topic at hand, I just felt like throwing that out there.
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I dont know why the whole not try thing makes people mad, its fairly obvious that certain battlers do just take battles for pay cheques and not really put effort in, anybody trying to argue differently is deluding themselves. People might not like it but facts cant be argued with, there are certain battlers who get booked no matter how they perform and its only natural that these guys start to coast.

The Cassidy not trying strategy is a sound one aswell, theres no way that Cass will be able to kill it so badly or bring in the amount of interest/money to justify paying him again what they are paying him this time. If he loses he can just say Im a hustler, I got paid x amount to turn up and not try.
exactly! thats all im saying...

wut people fail to realize is cassidy is "not" a battle rapper... his entire image is based on being a rap hustler...
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tbh im expecting him to just bring shit like his 0 to 100 freestyle

aka like 90 bars of hot trash but one or two quotables in the entire shit just to make it feel slightly worth our while
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I'm not calling it a sport. I personally don't think it's the correct term for battle rap but it's considered a competition and is therefore somewhat analogous to a sport which is why the closest comparisons it can draw is to something like boxing or MMA, even if the analogy begins to breakdown the more to try to find parallels.

It's semantics. Compare it to a poetry slam, a talent show, or a spelling bee instead of a sport if you prefer; substitute the word "sport" for "competition" and my point still stands.

Is there any competition where you compete to see who puts the least effort in and cares the least?
yes! competition that one doesnt do to earn there money! cassidy earns his money as a regular rapper... not a battle rapper... they are paying him to do something that is not wut he does... plain and simple...

sign lebron james to the new york yankees as a pitcher... and u may not get wut ur looking for... sure hes an athlete... but thats not wut he does
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Literally ever top tier in battle rap has retarded super fans.
Agreed, but some Dizasters are the worst of the bunch. Hollows come in at a close 2nd.
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Didn't Lush One say that Cass is locked in for three battles? If that's the case, we'll be seeing more Cassidy battles regardless, so it's probably not a good idea for him to tank the first one. Besides, I'd guess there are some stipulations and/or incentives in the contract that at least attempt to assure that he'll put in maximum effort.
Jesus, 3 battles for Cass....this guy in his most recent Vlad interview states he wants double or triple the amount in his next battle(s)

Either Freshcoast Media Group & Lush are goin broke due to Cass or this 250K is a front for a 3 battle contract....
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yes! competition that one doesnt do to earn there money! cassidy earns his money as a regular rapper... not a battle rapper... they are paying him to do something that is not wut he does... plain and simple...

sign lebron james to the new york yankees as a pitcher... and u may not get wut ur looking for... sure hes an athlete... but thats not wut he does
yea but basketball and baseball are waaaaay more different then battle rapping and regular rapping

its more like putting a karate blackbelt whos never been in a "real" fight before against an mma fighter
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yea but basketball and baseball are waaaaay more different then battle rapping and regular rapping

its more like putting a karate blackbelt whos never been in a "real" fight before against an mma fighter
This.

Battle Rap is a subset of Rap. Baseball is not a subset of basketball. It still requires the same base skillset.

It's more like Basketball to a Dunk Contest which Lebron would obviously be good at.

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willy clearly doesnt try when making threads either...
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willy clearly doesnt try when making threads either...
Woah! go ahead and let that anger out young man... u will feel better lmfao
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Woah! go ahead and let that anger out young man... u will feel better lmfao
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i cant wait for diz to body cassidy fair and square and all of this speculation will look completely retarded

yall act like diz never made you laugh if thats the case you're a sad human being also if you dont think he snapped against arsonal then you're a lost cause


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i cant wait for diz to body cassidy fair and square and all of this speculation will look completely retarded

yall act like diz never made you laugh if thats the case you're a sad human being also if you dont think he snapped against arsonal then you're a lost cause


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yea but basketball and baseball are waaaaay more different then battle rapping and regular rapping

its more like putting a karate blackbelt whos never been in a "real" fight before against an mma fighter
nah... its more like puttin shaquille o'neil in to a dribbling contest
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I dont get the reed dollaz comparison. Cass is ALOT better than Reed. The thing about reed is he never had bars to begin with and his style of rap was never fit for the modern day style. Cassidy is different because his on beat raps sound like battle bars. He raps with the same cadence and rhythm of a battler even when he is on a beat. Cassidy also has the skill to come up with effective bars. I can see cassidy taking this one as much as i dislike Cass i really see him making a good transition.
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