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Old 09-19-2016, 10:22 AM   #1
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So We Just Gonna Keep Pretending Hollow Isn't The Reason Battle Rap Fell Off?

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If we are just let me know... and also if we are do we have an AUDTSP (agreed upon date to stop pretending) yet?

I think in reality it's fair to say that "deep down", we all know the following:


What had happened was this: Battle rap was on the up and up, it was getting extremely popular... battles on worldstar (not cause something happened, because people were interested), etc.. people from all walks getting in to it, even the streets were all on it...

while this was happening, Hollow was simultaneously getting more credit than he should have been, based on his "past" work... It got out of hand, and people (from the battle rap world, not outside fans) put him on a pedestal he didn't deserve....

so when battle rap hit its peak, and the whole country was lovin it, they chose Hollow to represent the battlers in the biggest event that could have brought battle rap mainstream.... to battle Joe Budden....

They thought he would be the one that would represent it right (Note: Willy was against this).... so like everyones ready... battle rap is movin... and the battle happens.... and BOOM! "It" happens.... Hollow was WACK AS FUCK!

He just looked like a little kid throwing a tantrum... people wanted to see rap... and before that battle even ended people were already done with battle rap... they were like "ok this shit is not what I thought".... he killed the buzz IMMEDIATELY... and it just never recovered

it was a classic case of wrong man for the job... these guys were on the verge of starting to see real money, and he blew it... it wasn't hus failt though... it was the inner battle rap fans that gassed him up... he was getting worse, and they acted like he was getting better... the truth was he was falling off, and that was the battle he fell of completely

but hey, if it's more "comfortable" for everyone, Im open to continuing to pretend this is not the case... just let me know... and if so give me that AUDTSP
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Old 09-19-2016, 10:57 AM   #2
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Last I heard the pretending period expires 1/1/20, unless hollow gets a new permit before that date tbh.
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Even tho he 30'd Budden I do think it was one of his weaker performances
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who would've done a better job?

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i think the budden battle had less impact then the cassidy battle to be fair.
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Hollow definitely dropped the ball I disagree with him being wack as you said but I always said in a big room with that many ppl watching who aren't gonna understand none of these crazy ass "battle rap bars and punches"

Hitman should of went against Joe somebody who's straight to the point and grabs your attention from the moment he opens his mouth..

If the goal was to draw in more fans
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do we really want mainstream fans / events?

I mean, it'd be cool for the battlers' pockets, but as selfish fans of the current platform... do we?
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do we really want mainstream fans / events?

I mean, it'd be cool for the battlers' pockets, but as selfish fans of the current platform... do we?
If we could get a Fight Klub MTV2 show out of it, or a Blaze Battle televised scenario - I'd say yes. Both of those shows were official as f---!

I enjoyed the Slaughterhouse Reality Show piece of it too. That was a new concept that was executed quite well. So, I guess relative mainstream appeal could mean stuff like that.

But...battles in huge arenas. No. Never. Battle rap ain't built for it.
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Hollow wasn't solely responsible for total slaughter being a disaster... just look at mook vs lux 2, Daylyt vs rex, etc the entire event was a bad look for battle rap period.

The golden era of battle rap died when GT went under, no debate.
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Basically without the Hollow battle, battle rap would have hit a bigger peak... and then plummeted in exactly the same way. See bboying, Rawkus records, emo rap, rap rock etc. etc. People get bored, the purists remain
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I fully agree with this. Hollow was never very good to begin with, but got propelled to the forefront... and let us all down. Even those of us with extremely low expectations to begin with.
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I fully agree with this. Hollow was never very good to begin with, but got propelled to the forefront... and let us all down. Even those of us with extremely low expectations to begin with.
That just isnt true at all
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If Hollow is responsible for battle rap falling off, it's because he set the bar too fucking high.
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I honestly do have a good friend that used to come thru for KOTD ppvs and we even rolled to some events in Pitt together
he would vine clip shit from the events, take pics wit battlers, tweet updates and all that

He watched the whole series of Total Slaughter on TV and even had his family half-ass into it
ordered the Total Slaughter and I bullshit u not. he has not watched a battle since

I called him to go to the recent URL Pitt shit and he curved me, I'm tellin you TS ruined it for him
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I honestly do have a good friend that used to come thru for KOTD ppvs and we even rolled to some events in Pitt together
he would vine clip shit from the events, take pics wit battlers, tweet updates and all that

He watched the whole series of Total Slaughter on TV and even had his family half-ass into it
ordered the Total Slaughter and I bullshit u not. he has not watched a battle since

I called him to go to the recent URL Pitt shit and he curved me, I'm tellin you TS ruined it for him
Lol wow..
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Take it from a non Hitman Holla fan.

I'd have MUCH rathered him up there than Hollow.

He's a better representation of the culture overall.


Jesus, I never thought I'd say that. That's how bad Hollow is.
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alternatively, take it from someone who loves Hitman: Hollow's better than him

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Hollow definitely dropped the ball I disagree with him being wack as you said but I always said in a big room with that many ppl watching who aren't gonna understand none of these crazy ass "battle rap bars and punches"

Hitman should of went against Joe somebody who's straight to the point and grabs your attention from the moment he opens his mouth..

If the goal was to draw in more fans
or Calicoe.... Cal would of been good for that
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do we really want mainstream fans / events?

I mean, it'd be cool for the battlers' pockets, but as selfish fans of the current platform... do we?
Yes because then the good battles can happen... smack throws money saver battles now
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Hollow wasn't solely responsible for total slaughter being a disaster... just look at mook vs lux 2, Daylyt vs rex, etc the entire event was a bad look for battle rap period.

The golden era of battle rap died when GT went under, no debate.
Saying that your neighbors garbage stinks doesn't make your garbage atink any less... think long and hard on that
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Basically without the Hollow battle, battle rap would have hit a bigger peak... and then plummeted in exactly the same way. See bboying, Rawkus records, emo rap, rap rock etc. etc. People get bored, the purists remain
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I fully agree with this. Hollow was never very good to begin with, but got propelled to the forefront... and let us all down. Even those of us with extremely low expectations to begin with.
They put him on a god like pedestal, it was ridiculous
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WHOOPSY! U just got urself on my ignore list... time for me to bring back "daddys little hoes"... u will be the first on it.... sucks to be u lmfao

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I honestly do have a good friend that used to come thru for KOTD ppvs and we even rolled to some events in Pitt together
he would vine clip shit from the events, take pics wit battlers, tweet updates and all that

He watched the whole series of Total Slaughter on TV and even had his family half-ass into it
ordered the Total Slaughter and I bullshit u not. he has not watched a battle since

I called him to go to the recent URL Pitt shit and he curved me, I'm tellin you TS ruined it for him

This is real life testimony folks... not much more to say... this was true for so many to!
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Take it from a non Hitman Holla fan.

I'd have MUCH rathered him up there than Hollow.

He's a better representation of the culture overall.


Jesus, I never thought I'd say that. That's how bad Hollow is.
Anyone that can't admit it is in denial
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It was a beating he took to, joe just rapped better, it wasn't even that joe was great, it was more that hollow was so bad
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