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Old 07-27-2017, 07:54 AM   #81
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So let me get this strait, dude puts a shitload of money up for his hobby which his wife supports and then a bad bar about a ridiculously personal and horrible thing in dudes life gets brought up in a battle he has nothing to do with other than paying for, it infuriated his wife, people are saying its his fault, and people still don't understand why he's taking a step back? I guess yall motherfuckers ain't married.
this + in their situation I imagine you would see battle rap as an escape and therefore (justifiably!) have no expectation that this would be brought up, as there's no need for it to be.

+ when did battle rap go from battlers can say anything to each other to battlers can say anything about anyone connected to / within 300 feet of a battle?

'hey crowd faggot, I heard via a third party's Facebook message your dad died' sad face etc.

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Old 07-27-2017, 08:11 AM   #82
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You knowingly got involved in the era of battle rap where dudes openly take shots at opponent's family members, you actively became a "face" of the KOTD community, you made your daughter's case publicly known knowing the context in which you were in, and I'd find it hard to believe that you didn't know your wife would become upset had a line like Iron's been said. I'm glad you realize that this weighs heavily on you.
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Old 07-27-2017, 11:13 AM   #84
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Dizaster ruined it by taking a Loaded line and by using the word nigga. Where's the backlash for that? Marc needed to do something other than stand there and look stupid.
Jesus christ do you ever stop?

You're literally the only one caring this much about it...
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White people shouldnt be saying nigga.

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Old 07-27-2017, 04:07 PM   #86
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if you're trying to say nikiya should suck it up and take it as part of being involved in battle rap you're an idiot it's as simple as that
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blah blah blah blah blah. looks like dude was spending too much money on battle rap and is looking for a way out
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i read this whole thread and still don't know whats going on
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He took a wrong angle trying to be more disrespectful then arsonal, yeah it's a shitty thing to say, especially when you say it in front of the dude who has a terminal ill daughter and is paying you to say that shit. But it's just a tactic gone wrong, you can see in the 15 min of fame video he feels bad about it, even apologized for it. Understandable doh Nikaya and his wife are taking a step back for now, he looks like a good dude doh and smart enough to not blame the whole scene for one fukup. So just take that break uncle Nikky, you're appreciated here and we'll be waiting for your return.
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This is some stupid middle-school shit.

How the fuck do you go about putting another mans personal life in the limelight like that? Better yet, a dude who ain't even in the battle. It's corny enough when dudes try to turn a battle into some sort of an exposť about their opponent, but it's even worse when you bring outsiders into it.

If you can't get a reaction for your bars without bringing up some real life shit from another persons private life, you should get back to the drawing board and stay there before your writing is up to par. SMFH. Fuck Solomon.
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The saying the most offensive thing was from when battling was still in the streets and you could get hurt by being offensive. It was a punk off to your opponent.

With all the rules and protection from leagues it's now really cheap. Plus bringing in non battlers or someone you dont have some beef with for some reason is kind of wack.

I would assume its done because he's facing Arsonal. Arsonal is famous for being an offensive battler so many feel you gotta be offensive when you face im.

I dont mind offensive if the line is good and it offends the right person.
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So he's fine with the shit Pat sad about Marv's brother, or what Diz sad about DNA's mom, but when it offends him it's too much???

Iron is a clown for what he said tbf but this is weird.
If Nikiya was battling bringing up his daughter makes sense. Nikiya had nothing to do with the battle
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Am I the only 1 that was somewhat disturbed to the links solomon went to describe what he would do to Arsonals daughter? Im not gonna repeat it word for word lets just say it involves baby wipes point is this man actually wrote this down, read it, and rehearsed it over and over in his head idc if its in jest or to prove a point, thats fucked up man
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He took a wrong angle trying to be more disrespectful then arsonal, yeah it's a shitty thing to say, especially when you say it in front of the dude who has a terminal ill daughter and is paying you to say that shit. But it's just a tactic gone wrong, you can see in the 15 min of fame video he feels bad about it, even apologized for it. Understandable doh Nikaya and his wife are taking a step back for now, he looks like a good dude doh and smart enough to not blame the whole scene for one fukup. So just take that break uncle Nikky, you're appreciated here and we'll be waiting for your return.
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I thought iron was one of those guys who kind of became more positive as he got older... he seems like he's a good enough writer to not have to do that shit
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If you can't get a reaction for your bars without bringing up some real life shit from another persons private life, you should get back to the drawing board and stay there before your writing is up to par. SMFH. Fuck Solomon.
I like this and I agree minus the Fuck Solomon part. I'm not that mean and he was dope a while back.
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I'm of the mindset that it's battle rap and anything goes especially if the shit has already been made public.
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did iron apologize to dudes wife yet and buy her flowers?

or maybe write her an appropriate poem

i would do something like that if i hurt somebody unintentionally. thats more important than a debate

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Old 08-01-2017, 10:45 PM   #99
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did iron apologize to dudes wife yet and buy her flowers?

or maybe write her an appropriate poem

i would do something like that if i hurt somebody unintentionally. thats more important than a debate
that's a tough situation to gift you're way out of, I think you'd be better off parlaying with whoever edits the video.

though there's some merit to 'I poemed my way into this mess...'

also I'm so when I wrote poemed it autoc'd to premed.
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I've said this plenty of times, but it bears repeating: I really hate that battle rap, for a lot of people, has become about saying the most offensive shit that you can think of.

Nikiya said "I've always been an advocate for being as offensive as possible to your opponent" but like I've always said, battle rap doesn't exist in a vacuum where it's just the two people on stage effected by the content. All these free speech champs out here complaining about PC-culture until it's something that personally effects them smh. Sad that this was the way out for him, but maybe he's learned a lesson, and I hope other people learn something too.
I can't rep you till whatever, but...

yes......totally......this culture has blabbed "there's no line" as a mantra forever and then act shocked when this shit happens.....my question is how does Iron know about it? why do I know about it now? why is dude letting the information out there in a community which he himself echos should be offensive as possible, and then be surprised someone used it? why? how?

People cross the line cuz the line is barely a line. It used to be a line but the wear and tear of decades of neglect have faded it beyond recognition. Who knows where one lane begins and one ends? Cars will drift. Lives will be changed irreparably. Don't crash the car , battle rap. Just calm down. You don't have to be "offensive as possible". We get it. You're tough. We all know it. Now lets rap.


edit - i realize this could be interpreted as me saying its his own fault. i don't think that. i feel bad for them and i've been in similar situations as theirs and would never wish it on anyone. literally the worst shit possible. i'm just fascinated by the conflicting stances like people have pointed out. i'm tired and this is starting to make less sense
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I've been saying that Iron is wack for years. It would be stupid to blurt out something like that, but to write it and rehearse it for weeks? And you really never thought that it might be a tasteless thing to say? Really, Iron?

"anything goes in battling" is something I still agree with

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I don't understand how these thoughts can occupy the same space. Or we're using words in ways I can't interpret. What's goin on here
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yes......totally......this culture has blabbed "there's no line" as a mantra forever and then act shocked when this shit happens.....
Yeah this. I can understand the fans point of view, but I have to say that Solomon dropped the ball here. He's an experienced battler, he should have gauged the situation.

Nikiya has shown his love for the culture but never underestimate someone's love for their family. It's about time this corny-ass dead family insults and r*pin* peoples' daughters jokes left battle rap.
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Yeah this. I can understand the fans point of view, but I have to say that Solomon dropped the ball here. He's an experienced battler, he should have gauged the situation.

Nikiya has shown his love for the culture but never underestimate someone's love for their family. It's about time this corny-ass dead family insults and r*pin* peoples' daughters jokes left battle rap.
yea. I also get that it was his wife who was particularly affected and she isn't part of the culture to the degree he is, but it highlights why this "anything goes!!!" shit is so limiting if growth of battle rap as a thing is something you want to see happen.

Solomon probably should know better, but its the overall attitude towards the offensiveness in general that even gives him the idea it would be acceptable. Rap battles are as old as rappin' but "battle rap" as its own thing is still new and needs a few more minutes in the oven.
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but it highlights why this "anything goes!!!" shit is so limiting if growth of battle rap as a thing is something you want to see happen.
Yeah exactly. There are so many directions to head when writing. It is limiting...attacking staff for shock value is hella corny to. The rap elders need to steer this culture back to where it was supposed to be.
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Yeah exactly. There are so many directions to head when writing. It is limiting...attacking staff for shock value is hella corny to. The rap elders need to steer this culture back to where it was supposed to be.
I meant limiting in the sense of bringing in new eyeballs
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I meant limiting in the sense of bringing in new eyeballs
I see, well that's even more true. The general population aren't ready for dead relative bars, imagine that being on prime time TV, I can't
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I don't understand how these thoughts can occupy the same space. Or we're using words in ways I can't interpret. What's goin on here
I'm saying you are free to say whatever you want in battling, and whatever you say can be interpreted as an offensive play in the "game".. but people are also free to dislike what you choose to say and condemn you for it... Including thinking its fucked up that you resorted to a particular topic to try to make a point in a battle
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