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Old 09-09-2017, 07:35 AM   #1
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Bodied premiere

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Bodied premiered and got a reasonably good reaction.
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oh, it's a battle rap satire... i thought it was supposed to be taken seriously which is why i said it looked corny

"is a demonically relentless battle rap satire AND an audacious interrogation of identity politics that puts fake wokeness on notice"
haha i like that review
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Glad to see it's been getting a lot of really good reviews from some legit outlets.
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i found it kinda hard to doubt the film with joseph khan directing it and twist writing it, but was also a bit surprised by how much i enjoyed the trailer. awesome to hear it's getting good reception.
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I have faith in Kid Twist's script and from Twitter etc. Khan gets it - I think it'll be okay, the impression I get is that what's being satirised is the response people might have to (homophobia, misogyny, racism) the content of battles, in the name of political correctness, the misplaced belief that by doing this they are helping minorities, the oppressed etc.

Which is a long way of saying battling isn't the thing being satirised, it's being celebrated as the one space where you can still call faggots faggots, faggots.
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It'd be hilarious to me if this movie blew up.
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Is the confirmed racist white supremacist Eminem behind this movie?
we will pass on this one
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Where is this debuting at? I assume some sort of a film festival?
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Toronto International Film Festival. Kind of a big deal actually
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"Still, the electric performances, countless cultural memes and hip-hop heavy soundtrack should all help propel it into theaters following a premiere in Toronto, where it arrived with a considerable amount of buzz."

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Currently has a 9.2 on IMDb, the same rating as The Godfather

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I can't tell if you're being serious by comparing it to The Godfather but that 9.2 is based off 42 user reviews, you gotta let that shit marinate for awhile.
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Where is this debuting at? I assume some sort of a film festival?
Outside of Cannes, TIFF is arguably the top (maybe tied with Sundance) film festival in the world.

Getting a ton of good reviews, they shut down the street for Madness and Twist to battle pre-show.
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The impression I get is that what's being satirised is the response people might have to (homophobia, misogyny, racism) the content of battles, in the name of political correctness, the misplaced belief that by doing this they are helping minorities, the oppressed etc.
That's what's interesting about this. This film seems a little less politically correct than 8 miles. Hopefully it doesn't ruffle too many feathers
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Outside of Cannes, TIFF is arguably the top (maybe tied with Sundance) film festival in the world.

Getting a ton of good reviews, they shut down the street for Madness and Twist to battle pre-show.
Niiiice!! I hope we get to see the footage!
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I have faith in Kid Twist's script and from Twitter etc. Khan gets it - I think it'll be okay, the impression I get is that what's being satirised is the response people might have to (homophobia, misogyny, racism) the content of battles, in the name of political correctness, the misplaced belief that by doing this they are helping minorities, the oppressed etc.

Which is a long way of saying battling isn't the thing being satirised, it's being celebrated as the one space where you can still call faggots faggots, faggots.
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I hope this blows UP and makes millions

If it's good I could see it being an unexpected hit in theatres
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here's a write up from The Ringer. Looks like I may have to eat my words about this thing...maybe!

"As probably the most successful large-scale pop-video director of his generation, Kahn has spent a lot of time crafting images that have helped his clients build their consensus. In his clips, Kahn has an uncanny knack for catering to — and pandering to — a mass audience, but his feature films, including 2011’s spiky, amazing Detention, and now Bodied, work in a different way: they represent this very sly and self-aware artist’s attempts to satirize, atomize, and pulverize the pop mainstream he’s helped saturate with shiny, glossy, product.

In the most basic terms, Bodied is a barely disguised remake/update of 8 Mile, with Calum Worthy starring as Adam, a white graduate student writing a thesis on battle rap. As the film opens, he’s attending an underground confab and diligently taking notes on the verses, disses, and decorum (or lack thereof) of the entire community. The 8 Mile parody begins to rear its head when it’s revealed that Adam is, to his surprise, a B-Rabbit-type who can hold his own with the more experienced battlers, but where Curtis Hanson’s 2002 hit was an attempt to prop up Eminem’s own (self) myth-making — the origin story of a (white) working-class superhero more tortured and authentic than his (black) competitors — Bodied goes in a different direction. Adam isn’t punching up against anything; instead, he’s an embodiment of white male privilege, and any awkwardness he feels in his new career is offset by the fact that battling seemingly lets him get away with saying anything at all.


The emphasis here is on anything: I can’t remember the last time I was as shocked by the dialogue in a movie as I was during Bodied. Outrage and offense are baked into the battle rap format. And yet Kahn and his screenwriter, the Toronto-area wordslinger Alex Larsen (a.k.a. Kid Twist) are determined to test the audience’s boundaries in the same manner as Adam, whose notoriety as the most viciously racist virtuoso on the circuit comes with plenty of criticism from his liberal-arts college buddies.

Bodied’s provocation is multidirectional. Kahn has recently drawn fire on Twitter for his advocacy of free-speech absolutism — for, in effect, calling out political correctness as a liability rather than a solution in the age of Trump. As obviously as Bodied critiques Adam for getting off on the carte blanche handed to him by his new persona — and I’d say that recognizing its antihero’s essential awfulness is its largest and most salient point — it also gleefully mocks identity politics and the woker-than-thou platitudes of self-appointed ideological cops. (There’s a shot of a Bernie Sanders sticker on a laptop that’s devastatingly funny in context.)

It’s not so much that Bodied’s aggressively centrist, you-can-dish-it-out-but-can-you-take-it mentality is persuasive — and get ready for a ream of aggrieved essays about exactly why it’s not — as that it feels plugged into a moment when so much social exchange is so discordant and performative. It’s almost the movie equivalent of a think piece — or perhaps a Twitter thread. Before the premiere, Kahn told me that he thought that everyday Twitter discourse has started to feel like an endless series of battle raps — attempts to inflict damage and score points, with the outcome judged by onlookers all too willing to tag in and take their own shots.

Bodied is exhausting and annoying a lot of the time, but it’s also hilariously funny, finely stylized, and genuinely bold where it counts, both in terms of its story arc and the willingness to go there with words-as-weapons that Zahler shows with splintered limbs in Brawl (the title of which could have easily been Bodied). It’s also astonishing that a film so committed to questioning the Eminem myth comes produced by Marshall Mathers himself, who would have had to sign off on Kahn’s final and most wounding musical cue — an oldie-but-goodie that’s the perfect anthem for a movie that examines whether there’s any real value (artistic or otherwise) to acting like a complete asshole."
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It sounds better than it did at first but is anyone else finding it hard to trust any of these reviews that also praise Detention? That wasn't a good film.
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here's a write up from The Ringer. Looks like I may have to eat my words about this thing...maybe!
Same. Regardless of if I actually end up liking it, I thought there was no chance this would blow up in any meaningful way. I've already been proven wrong about that.

Dizaster is making some big moves in 2017 with this and the Russia battle. Looks like his battle over there made it onto a news channel. Lol at a news channel showing footage of Dizaster punching Math Hoffa. What a time to be alive.

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It's both weird and disappointing to me that so many people now think that battling is about saying racist, homophobic, politically incorrect shit, and that this movie is apparently promoting that concept

Battling is only about that shit to a minority of battle rap fans, and most of those people have no connection to hip hop culture outside of battle rap, in the first place

Just last week I was watching the biggest event of the year and ABSOLUTELY ZERO of the content was about identity politics, homophobia, racism, or anti-political correctness

The way some people insist on shoehorning in their political agendas into battle rap (especially considering the origins of this subculture) is very vulture-like to me.
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Seriously, try popcorn with jalapeņos mixed in! Sounds ridiculous I know, but you won't go back to regular popcorn (provided you like spicy food).
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It's both weird and disappointing to me that so many people now think that battling is about saying racist, homophobic, politically incorrect shit, and that this movie is apparently promoting that concept

Battling is only about that shit to a minority of battle rap fans, and most of those people have no connection to hip hop culture outside of battle rap, in the first place

Just last week I was watching the biggest event of the year and ABSOLUTELY ZERO of the content was about identity politics, homophobia, racism, or anti-political correctness

The way some people insist on shoehorning in their political agendas into battle rap (especially considering the origins of this subculture) is very vulture-like to me.
I think the way to square this circle (is that what the expression is) is to have battles that don't involve the main character which really aren't about the things you listed at all. If the main character's arc is about anti-political correctness, or whatever, then I don't see a problem with the battles he's involved with advancing that story. That said, if they wish to remain true to what battle rap is, like you said, that can't be the entirety of the focus.

To add credence to your point though, Twist is a smart guy and everything, but his frame of reference in battle rap is clearly the GT/early KOTD era specifically. That would seem to suggest that maybe that style is what Twist thinks battle rap is.
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I think the way to square this circle (is that what the expression is) is to have battles that don't involve the main character which really aren't about the things you listed at all. If the main character's arc is about anti-political correctness, or whatever, then I don't see a problem with the battles he's involved with advancing that story. That said, if they wish to remain true to what battle rap is, like you said, that can't be the entirety of the focus.

To add credence to your point though, Twist is a smart guy and everything, but his frame of reference in battle rap is clearly the GT/early KOTD era specifically. That would seem to suggest that maybe that style is what Twist thinks battle rap is.
I hear you. I obviously haven't seen the movie, and I'm legit happy for twist and the battle rappers involved in it, but the way this movie is described sounds like some shit I'm just not on board with lol

I'm still looking forward to seeing it tho, and if I like it, I won't lie about that
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I hear you. I obviously haven't seen the movie, and I'm legit happy for twist and the battle rappers involved in it, but the way this movie is described sounds like some shit I'm just not on board with lol

I'm still looking forward to seeing it tho, and if I like it, I won't lie about that
Yeah, I don't think we disagree at all here. Some people who thought they'd hate it liked it, but I'll believe it when I see it
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I hear you. I obviously haven't seen the movie, and I'm legit happy for twist and the battle rappers involved in it, but the way this movie is described sounds like some shit I'm just not on board with lol

I'm still looking forward to seeing it tho, and if I like it, I won't lie about that
Pretty much how I feel about it too.
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Old 09-18-2017, 01:50 PM   #32
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As soon as this is available on VOD I'm making popcorn with jalapeņos in it and breaking out a 12 pack.

Seriously, try popcorn with jalapeņos mixed in! Sounds ridiculous I know, but you won't go back to regular popcorn (provided you like spicy food).
I just tried out what'll probably be my default popcorn variation now on the weekend...super spicy sea salt (I've got a pre-mix that's mixed w/cayenne, paprika, chili, and scorpion pepper), dash of regular salt, pepper, and curry powder (which sounds odd at first, but works sooo well).

Def gonna give yours a spin too, that sounds fire!
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i'm pretty eager to see this movie now damn. and the popcorn recipes in this thread sound fire why have i not heard about this shit before
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I just tried out what'll probably be my default popcorn variation now on the weekend...super spicy sea salt (I've got a pre-mix that's mixed w/cayenne, paprika, chili, and scorpion pepper), dash of regular salt, pepper, and curry powder (which sounds odd at first, but works sooo well).

Def gonna give yours a spin too, that sounds fire!
Damn dude! Your recipe makes just jalapeņos with popcorn sound like used diaper shredding!

You had me at scorpion pepper! Check this sauce out, my favorite by FAR. Shit packs crazy flavor and heat:

https://www.hotsauce.com/Heartbreaki...uce-p/1928.htm

PM me your PO Box or whatever address and I'll dead ass serious send you a bottle via Amazon just to see what you think. It's really flavorful fire. Hit me up!
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It's both weird and disappointing to me that so many people now think that battling is about saying racist, homophobic, politically incorrect shit, and that this movie is apparently promoting that concept

Battling is only about that shit to a minority of battle rap fans, and most of those people have no connection to hip hop culture outside of battle rap, in the first place

Just last week I was watching the biggest event of the year and ABSOLUTELY ZERO of the content was about identity politics, homophobia, racism, or anti-political correctness

The way some people insist on shoehorning in their political agendas into battle rap (especially considering the origins of this subculture) is very vulture-like to me.
I have the same concerns but am holding out hope (after having no hope for this thing) that they handled it in a way that's at least interesting.....there's an angle they could take on it that could even be beneficial if taken head on....i'm hoping since the reviews have been positive that they did just that...

or not who knows. I hate a lot of stuff that's well reviewed haha
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