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Old 07-31-2014, 01:10 AM   #1
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instead of time limits why not bar limits?

I would think that would keep the playing field even. the times should be relatively close and it would stop that painful TIME shit that kills a guy in the middle of his momentum. Malathion might lose his job but if you get a guy who's sole job is to count bars then it should work out and have the battlers structure their rounds to a bar limit.
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cause then head ice would be rapping for 3 hours a battle with his slow ass
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cause then head ice would be rapping for 3 hours a battle with his slow ass
that would be a problem
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maybe a bar count but within a confined amount of time minus crowd reaction?
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maybe a bar count but within a confined amount of time minus crowd reaction?
i think the way that literally every league has been doing it since the inception of written battle rap is probably fine tbh
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cause then head ice would be rapping for 3 hours a battle with his slow ass
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i think the way that literally every league has been doing it since the inception of written battle rap is probably fine tbh
I dunno.... hollow and lux was a great battle but the time limits kinda stole shit from us.

cortez vs Trex was horrific
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this would work better tbh...
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I would think that would keep the playing field even. the times should be relatively close and it would stop that painful TIME shit that kills a guy in the middle of his momentum. Malathion might lose his job but if you get a guy who's sole job is to count bars then it should work out and have the battlers structure their rounds to a bar limit.
I actually think this is a great idea. I know that on the DBD show they have been discussing time limits and ways to make things fairer, @Dirtbag Dan thoughts on this?
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Not a bad idea for a concept

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Who would keep track of the bar count?
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How would they define a bar when it comes to slogans / slow it downs?
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Cus niggas can't count bars live. Close thread
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niggas have to be rappers to know what a bar is

half these dudes would be forced to rap like regular human beings and i dont think thats fair............
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How would they define a bar when it comes to slogans / slow it downs?
count the slow it downs in bar counts you get "points" if they are good so they should be apart of it. you don't get points for slogans by anyone who's judging you so let those be excluded
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Cus niggas can't count bars live. Close thread
you got to give some one something they can use to count by the press of a button. so they don't have to keep track in their mind it will be recorded as they press the button and glance at it. and they have to be very very good at it. and if you tell battlers to structure it to that limit. then the fail rate shouldn't be bad at all imo. and if they get cut off it is only their fault.

id count the bars based of the rhyme count unless its multi syllabic. even then its possible

Bigg k would be an easy guy to count and hes multi syllabic but he rhymes rhythmically so you can count them

in hip hop a bar is four counts (when the snare or clap hits)

you act tuff when you rap stuff... play gangsta
but you really pussy that's fake heart.. pace maker. BAR

it isn't impossible and the degree of difficulty would vary based on rapper. but get a SINGLe person to do this and this is his only job and if he does his homework on the battler coming to the event and watches his previous battles and preps himself accordingly for that difficult person to count bars on it should work.
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you got to give some one something they can use to count by the press of a button. so they don't have to keep track in their mind it will be recorded as they press the button and glance at it. and they have to be very very good at it. and if you tell battlers to structure it to that limit. then the fail rate shouldn't be bad at all imo. and if they get cut off it is only their fault.

id count the bars based of the rhyme count unless its multi syllabic. even then its possible

Bigg k would be an easy guy to count and hes multi syllabic but he rhymes rhythmically so you can count them

in hip hop a bar is four counts (when the snare or clap hits)

you act tuff when you rap stuff... play gangsta
but you really pussy that's fake heart.. pace maker. BAR

it isn't impossible and the degree of difficulty would vary based on rapper. but get a SINGLe person to do this and this is his only job and if he does his homework on the battler coming to the event and watches his previous battles and preps himself accordingly for that difficult person to count bars on it should work.
I really hope you weren't expecting me to actually read that shit bra. My apologies if you did
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I really hope you weren't expecting me to actually read that shit bra. My apologies if you did
lol don't read it. but if your not gonna even acknowledge someone's points than your opinion means nothing
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lol don't read it. but if your not gonna even acknowledge someone's points than your opinion means nothing
You did better this time. Keep the length like this one moving forward. You're welcome
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This would probably discourage people from freestyling as they would have everything planned out to the bar.

Also this would make time really different. Guys like Tricky P would probably zoom through their material in like a minute or so, but slower guys like Marv or ICE would spend like 2-3 minutes to say the same amount of material.

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cause then head ice would be rapping for 3 hours a battle with his slow ass
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Very smart idea. I really hope this happens.
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people can't count bars, especially not while drunk/high in the middle of a live crowd. and with like half the battle rappers it's pretty much impossible to count them, like when Diz says fucking... fucking... fucking... is that a bar? when Illmac stretches some scheme that rhymes 5 minutes later, how many bars was that? when someone talks to the crowd in the middle of the round, does that count as bars? when Dirtbag spits doubletime, is that twice as many bars because it's twice as many lines, or is it still half the bars because it would be two lines per bar on a beat?

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This would probably discourage people from freestyling as they would have everything planned out to the bar.

Also this would make time really different. Guys like Tricky P would probably zoom through their material in like a minute or so, but slower guys like Marv or ICE would spend like 2-3 minutes to say the same amount of material.
this is a good point
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maybe a bar count but within a confined amount of time minus crowd reaction?
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fuck that

why not WORD counts??? that way, the bigger the words you use, the longer you get to rap. it'll encourage reading and shit like that. it'd be good for da kultchah and maybe get like lavar burton or someone to host some shit ya kno?
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fuck that

why not WORD counts??? that way, the bigger the words you use, the longer you get to rap. it'll encourage reading and shit like that. it'd be good for da kultchah and maybe get like lavar burton or someone to host some shit ya kno?
Bu-but, "what he-brew is-real-(l)ite", is that 3 words or 6!?
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why not WORD counts??? that way, the bigger the words you use, the longer you get to rap. it'll encourage reading and shit like that. it'd be good for da kultchah and maybe get like lavar burton or someone to host some shit ya kno?
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i heard chilla jones wants to have scheme limits
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I'm confident in Smack's ability to count bars. Shit should work just fine. Shit won't work in Fresh Coast KOTD though they are too wacked out on Molly to do a proper coin toss.
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u be killing it on wshh i see u on there ;

i hope u get more top comments bro salute
just passing time and trying to get more people familiar with the name b

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just passing time and trying to get more people familiar with the name b

worldstar comments = better than the videos
u are not joking ; its so easy to understand but strange at the same time ;

u are not exaggerating

that line is still stuck in my head ; "she had a mean body 3 kids ago b "

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u are not joking ; its so easy to understand but strange at the same time ;

u are not exaggerating

that line is still stuck in my head ; "she had a mean body 3 kids ago b "

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/video...4Acumeb9dk359O
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this is a horrible idea that works explicitly against people having individual styles and approaches

people are starting to call for battles to be industrialized punchline assembly lines
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solution to time limits: communicate with the battlers about what they are so that everyone understands fully. then do what you said you would

the idea that battlers prepare for weeks then show up and don't know what the time limits are is fucking ridiculous
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