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Old 01-17-2016, 12:06 AM   #81
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You are making a guess at how Bernie would handle himself diplomatically by his being interrupted by 2 women screaming over him at a rally?

How would you have handled the situation?

Bernie marched with MLK, had no reason to explain himself or argue with those women, handled himself as a mature intelligent person should have.
I would've told them to get the fuck off the stage verbatim and had my people physically remove them after about 30 sec.

And yeah I hear yah on the MLK stuff. Part of the problem here is that liberals have had an anger towards old white guy's for so long, that it's almost come back to haunt them with Bernie Sanders. While white liberals and college students often are a fan of the guy, the actual minorities he's trying to scoop up in most cases prefer Hillary, possibly because she's not an "old white man" lol.

I'm not in the mood for getting into a long discussion but on the Trump issue it's not so much that he hates minorities but I think many on the right feel like the left tries to make the issue of criticizing minorities a taboo subject. That's really how Trump was able to pretty much dominate the republican primaries so well. Most republicans are scared to bring up an issue like immigration or Islamic terrorism because they are worried it can cost them votes. The problem is that no matter what the republicans stance is on immigration, those minorities they are trying to appeal to will vote democrat anyways. Couple that with the voter base being massively concerned about immigration, despite the politicians trying to keep quiet on it, and all Trump really had to do was speak about the manner in a non-apologetic way and he got millions of fans over night.

That being said, I don't think Trump hates Mexicans, rather he is acknowledging there is a problem with them crossing into America illegally. Of course he doesn't put it in words so nice. Ditto with Syrian refugees, he doesn't want to ban them forever, rather just a temporary thing considering there are some that really do want to come to the country so they can kill Americans. By no means does that mean *all* muslims want to kill Americans, but at some point you have to determine what is more important, the lives of *some* of your citizens vs. letting more immigrants come in to the country.
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We saw what happened when he faced two 18 year old chicks, I got a feeling in front of someone like Putin he'd probably bitch up. Plus I just can't see people wanting to vote for socialism at this point, most people are unhappy with the government as it is, so why expand the powers of it more then is necessary?
Meh, that's literally a trumped up talking point. He deferred and let them speak in the very early stages of a campaign. It's a complete stretch to think that a civil reaction like that can be extrapolated to mean that he's weak on all matters. It would have been better to allow goons to forcefully kick them out like the incredibly strange fourth reich bullshit that's going on at Trump rallies? Those two girls more or less just exposed themselves as angry morons, anyway. Outside of the false "weakness" narrative they didn't really accomplish anything and it should be a non-story.

This election has already been the most tiring, embarrassing, and frustrating one that I can remember. We really are scraping the bottom of the barrel at this point and it's terrifying.
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I would've told them to get the fuck off the stage verbatim and had my people physically remove them after about 30 sec.

And yeah I hear yah on the MLK stuff. Part of the problem here is that liberals have had an anger towards old white guy's for so long, that it's almost come back to haunt them with Bernie Sanders. While white liberals and college students often are a fan of the guy, the actual minorities he's trying to scoop up in most cases prefer Hillary, possibly because she's not an "old white man" lol.

I'm not in the mood for getting into a long discussion but on the Trump issue it's not so much that he hates minorities but I think many on the right feel like the left tries to make the issue of criticizing minorities a taboo subject. That's really how Trump was able to pretty much dominate the republican primaries so well. Most republicans are scared to bring up an issue like immigration or Islamic terrorism because they are worried it can cost them votes. The problem is that no matter what the republicans stance is on immigration, those minorities they are trying to appeal to will vote democrat anyways. Couple that with the voter base being massively concerned about immigration, despite the politicians trying to keep quiet on it, and all Trump really had to do was speak about the manner in a non-apologetic way and he got millions of fans over night.

That being said, I don't think Trump hates Mexicans, rather he is acknowledging there is a problem with them crossing into America illegally. Of course he doesn't put it in words so nice. Ditto with Syrian refugees, he doesn't want to ban them forever, rather just a temporary thing considering there are some that really do want to come to the country so they can kill Americans. By no means does that mean *all* muslims want to kill Americans, but at some point you have to determine what is more important, the lives of *some* of your citizens vs. letting more immigrants come in to the country.
This^ is all good and fair if you really wanna be the guy that says I don't think Trump is racist just bad at addressing issues without sounding like 1, okay.

It does not, however, excuse his practices in construction and real estate in New York during the 80s when he made a fortune scamming hard working americans. The guy literally fucked people over out of house and home to get rich whether they were black brown or white and yet people wanna make excuses to make him seem not like such a bad guy and trust him as the president of the country ridiculous
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This^ is all good and fair if you really wanna be the guy that says I don't think Trump is racist just bad at addressing issues without sounding like 1, okay.

It does not, however, excuse his practices in construction and real estate in New York during the 80s when he made a fortune scamming hard working americans. The guy literally fucked people over out of house and home to get rich whether they were black brown or white and yet people wanna make excuses to make him seem not like such a bad guy and trust him as the president of the country ridiculous
Yeah I mean Trump definitely does and says things that are idiotic. One of the appeals though is the guy really says what he feels, holds back no punches and isn't apologizing. On some level, yes it's fucked up. On another level I think people are really tired of seeing everyone including politicans play semantics and dance around discussions and not get to the point.

It's like in that Office Space movie, Bill Lumberg always saying "umm.... yeah" lol.... almost feels like a lot of the politicans are becoming like that, or maybe they have been like that all along. Not saying he's right or I always agree with him, but at the very least the way he's doing things is pretty radical compared to his competition, it's almost like a breath of fresh air. Even if you hate the guy, at least you gotta be happy with the fact that he torpedo'ed Jeb Bush's chances lol.
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Yeah, Trump has done a variety of terrible things prior to this whole election farce. He's ruined and degraded people, constantly sued without real reason, and has a long history of bigoted bullshit. He's largely a terrible person and it doesn't take more than 5 minutes of research to realize this.

The problem is that people know he's a cunt but sweep it under the rug under the pretense of him being a "business man". As if being a cutthroat pile of shit who has always had financial backing are admirable and relatable qualities. That's the kind of guy I can identify with! He's the pinnacle of reality TV America so I totally get why he's popular, but it's hilarious to defend him as if he's some kind of sane, rational human being. He's a sociopath. He's a rich Greg Stillson from the Dead Zone. You can totally vote for that if you're into it, but don't try to rationalize and defend it as if it means anything for the greater good. It probably just means that you're a fucking sociopath too.

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Bernie is old AF

I'll put it this way... if Obama had waited until 2036 to run for president, he'd be as old as Sanders is right now
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Yeah I mean Trump definitely does and says things that are idiotic. One of the appeals though is the guy really says what he feels, holds back no punches and isn't apologizing. On some level, yes it's fucked up. On another level I think people are really tired of seeing everyone including politicans play semantics and dance around discussions and not get to the point.

It's like in that Office Space movie, Bill Lumberg always saying "umm.... yeah" lol.... almost feels like a lot of the politicans are becoming like that, or maybe they have been like that all along. Not saying he's right or I always agree with him, but at the very least the way he's doing things is pretty radical compared to his competition, it's almost like a breath of fresh air. Even if you hate the guy, at least you gotta be happy with the fact that he torpedo'ed Jeb Bush's chances lol.
Did you literally read nothing I just said?

I tell you how he got rich ripping off American citizens

You respond, "ya well atleast he speaks his mind and doesn't apologize.."

Either I'm being trolled or I just walked into the fucking Twilight Zone.
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Bernie is old AF

I'll put it this way... if Obama had waited until 2036 to run for president, he'd be as old as Sanders is right now
And STILL, would be a better option than Trump.
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Did you literally read nothing I just said?

I tell you how he got rich ripping off Americans

You respond, "ya well atleast he speaks his mind and doesn't apologize.."

Either I'm being trolled or I just walked into the fucking Twilight Zone.
Welcome to capitalism lol. And yes, with corporations, they often do shitty things and people give them a pass. Take Steve Jobs with the Iphone for example, over worked the fuck out of his employees (at times his employees worked 90 hours a week), was known to pay them less then what other companies were doing at the time. Used sweat shop labor for large parts of the process too. Sweat shops that work people for 17 hours a day..... sweat shops that make the employees live in housing that's *in* the factory, paying them just enough so that they can't really leave or get a better job. Yet everyone uses his product or some variation of it and very rarely do you ever hear anyone speaking negatively about the guy. Even the younger people that want to take a stand against capitalism, are using Iphones to tweet their disdain for it lol.

There's a lot good and a lot bad with capitalism. Not saying what he did was ok, but it is what it is.
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Yeah, Trump has done a variety of terrible things prior to this whole election farce. He's ruined and degraded people, constantly sued without real reason, and has a long history of bigoted bullshit. He's largely a terrible person and it doesn't take more than 5 minutes of research to realize this.

The problem is that people know he's a cunt but sweep it under the rug under the pretense of him being a "business man". As if being a cutthroat pile of shit who has always had financial backing are admirable and relatable qualities. That's the kind of guy I can identify with! He's the pinnacle of reality TV America so I totally get why he's popular, but it's hilarious to defend him as if he's some kind of sane, rational human being. He's a sociopath. He's a rich Greg Stilton from the Dead Zone. You can totally vote for that if you're into it, but don't try to rationalize and defend it as if it means anything for the greater good. It probably just means that you're a fucking sociopath too.
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Welcome to capitalism lol. And yes, with corporations, they often do shitty things and people give them a pass. Take Steve Jobs with the Iphone for example, over worked the fuck out of his employees (at times his employees worked 90 hours a week), was known to pay them less then what other companies were doing at the time. Used sweat shop labor for large parts of the process too. Sweat shops that work people for 17 hours a day..... sweat shops that make the employees live in housing that's *in* the factory, paying them just enough so that they can't really leave or get a better job. Yet everyone uses his product or some variation of it and very rarely do you ever hear anyone speaking negatively about the guy. Even the younger people that want to take a stand against capitalism, are using Iphones to tweet their disdain for it lol.

There's a lot good and a lot bad with capitalism. Not saying what he did was ok, but it is what it is.
So are we talking about Trump now or are we talking about capitalism? A fair comparison since Trump embodies everything that is WRONG with capitalism but tbf you can't just say "well of course he's a piece of shit that's capitalism" when there are plenty of examples of not having to rip people off to be successful.
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idk to me the main reason trump has any chance is because the libs actually showed the right that they feel threatened by him

before that it was all just a joke

y'all basically chose their candidate for them, and now it doesn't matter what he does/says/believes... lifetime rights will rock with him.
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So are we talking about Trump now or are we talking about capitalism? A fair comparison since Trump embodies everything that is WRONG with capitalism but tbf you can't just say "well of course he's a piece of shit that's capitalism" when there are plenty of examples of not having to rip people off to be successful.
I'm merely saying Trump partakes in the negative side of capitalism that we see from *many* other CEO's and corporations in general. You will not find many people at the top of the ladder that do not have blood on their hands. That being said, while I can understand you not liking the guy for a variety of reasons, in particular how he handled business, most people that want to vote for him are uninterested in that and are more interested for the reasons I mentioned earlier in the thread, such as discussing important issues in a non-apologetic tone, covering bases that other politicans shy away from, etc.
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idk to me the main reason trump has any chance is because the libs actually showed the right that they feel threatened by him

before that it was all just a joke

y'all basically chose their candidate for them, and now it doesn't matter what he does/says/believes... lifetime rights will rock with him.
Lifetime bigots are rocking with him. There are a ton of sane conservatives who want nothing to do with him.
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Simple answer - Fresco and Erik do whatever isn't popular. If battle rap was mostly Conservatives they would be supporting Sanders lol
Wish I could believe that in Frescos case but as for Foreman his views have been confirmed to swing on the far FAR right. Wouldn't surprise me. Seems like an ok kid but those Texas roots done poisoned his mind eternally.
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I'm merely saying Trump partakes in the negative side of capitalism that we see from *many* other CEO's and corporations in general. You will not find many people at the top of the ladder that do not have blood on their hands. That being said, while I can understand you not liking the guy for a variety of reasons, in particular how he handled business, most people that want to vote for him are uninterested in that and are more interested for the reasons I mentioned earlier in the thread, such as discussing important issues in a non-apologetic tone, covering bases that other politicans shy away from, etc.
And do you consider that wise of them to neglect in exchange for tone?
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And do you consider that wise of them to neglect in exchange for tone?
Honestly? I really have no opinion. On one level you can say well the guy has made himself massively rich via tactics that at times were pretty ruthless. I think most people are aware that this is not an uncommon occurrence, at times you have to be ruthless just for your very survival at that level. People are willing to give it a pass just because of the things he's discussed/brought up while campaigning. It's not exactly a big secret on some of the things that he's done to get where he is at, but they are interested in Trump just because of his stance on issues that they feel are important.
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Honestly? I really have no opinion. On one level you can say well the guy has made himself massively rich via tactics that at times were pretty ruthless. I think most people are aware that this is not an uncommon occurrence, at times you have to be ruthless just for your very survival at that level. People are willing to give it a pass just because of the things he's discussed/brought up while campaigning. It's not exactly a big secret on some of the things that he's done to get where he is at, but they are interested in Trump just because of his stance on issues that they feel are important.
Well atleast you've thought about it, clearly more than most can say. I just don't think those are the sort of red flags that should be ignored. It's the equivalent of having an oil baron as president and wondering why gas is $6 a gallon on his way out the door so you blame the "arabs". Oh wait
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there are also a ton of sane conservatives who are rocking with him



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Old 01-17-2016, 01:41 AM   #109
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there are also a ton of sane conservatives who are rocking with him



inb4 "lol sane conservatives, oxymoron much"
Because we all know that Donald fucking Trump is a champion of fiscal conservatism. I imagine that a lot of them will wake up eventually, or at least I hope they will.
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Old 01-17-2016, 01:51 AM   #110
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there are also a ton of sane conservatives who are rocking with him



inb4 "lol sane conservatives, oxymoron much"
I want you to answer 5 questions for me, obviously as a Canadian looking at American conservatism:

1. Do you think Marijuana should be legalized or decriminalized nationally at the very least?

2. Do you think birth control should be illegal?

3. Do you believe in the separation of church and state?

4. Do you think Iraq was involved with 9/11?

5. Do you believe that all citizens phones and emails deserve to be monitored without warrant in the name of national security?
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I want you to answer 5 questions for me, obviously as a Canadian looking at American conservatism:

1. Do you think Marijuana should be legalized or decriminalized nationally at the very least?

2. Do you think birth control should be illegal?

3. Do you believe in the separation of church and state?

4. Do you think Iraq was involved with 9/11?

5. Do you believe that all citizens phones and emails deserve to be monitored without warrant in the name of national security?
lmao nice try, but I've never even been to Canada before
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it takes a lot of mental gymnastics to be into hip-hop as a culture and also support trump, but i guess guys like fresco and foreman never were into hip-hop. they're gamers who like insulting people and learned to like rap music as a by-product.

supporting trump is obviously a fucked up thing to do. the man has no real idea about how to govern, but even if he did, he'd still be espousing weird-ass racist policies that reduce people's rights based on their religion, hyping the correlation between being muslim and being violent while utterly downplaying the correlation between being a gun-owner and being violent.

dude also openly has no idea how the military works, so everything he's got to say about the american military is totally hollow.

it's not as if i think there are many politicians out there who genuinely do what they do for the greater good of society (certainly not hillary or the other members of the GOP field, besides perhaps kasich) but anyone who actually thinks that trump is a man who could ever make america great again is nothing short of a fool who's got a boner and a big foam hand that says "USA #1"

furthermore, anyone who thinks that trump has "played his cards perfectly" can come back and see me after all the republican primaries are done and it's a cruz-rubio ticket.
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Old 01-17-2016, 02:31 AM   #114
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It's definitely not a secret Fresco been on some men's rights, radical Republican shit. He and Foreman got all these impressionable battle fans going ape shit for Trump.
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president sanders is the best thing that could ever happen to a country as societally sick as america but america is so ill precisely because its citizens genuinely have no idea what will make their country better. they really really do believe that guns and wars and bravado and big cars will really unclog the prison system, reduce child poverty and shore up the border.

how do you fight that.
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also yeah it's a little weird somebody started a thread about a specific battler's political preferences but it isn't weird at all that people are baffled by how other seemingly smart people could possibly support trump's utterly insubstantial campaign.

i mean even if you are a racist but a smart one, i still don't see how you'd be won over by a man who has pretty much no policies?
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