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Old 03-17-2014, 09:02 PM   #321
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this guy just makes up his own conversations in his head and argues them out on his own.

NOTHING of what you referenced was stated by anyone. Use the QUOTE function and stop paraphrasing and editorializing

@J.V.L. @mapleleaf 100% right and apologies if I was being condescending/playign semantics. I recognize the difference between institutional racism and individual prejudice. I also believe definitions and terms evolve along with culture, technology and language. I envision a more complete understanding of terms and definitions on this subject, as we continue the study of culture & anthropology
If I wasn't clear, from what I understand I agree with most of what you sad, and it's a huge part of society and race relations. One of the biggest issues with it all is definitions and semantics, and even the at the highest level of academia there is still much dispute. It is pretty clear that there's a difference between racism on a level of personal interaction vs living in a society. I don't think that level of thinking is applicable to the situation though as we're talking about a few specific instances.
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Old 03-18-2014, 11:16 PM   #323
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Lmaoooo, I know ur tryna justify ur hero's ignorance and racism, but what do u mean "a little" hypocritical? It's gotta be "totally" hypocritical, right? Or am I missing something?



I thought I explained it pretty well. I was saying it's hypocritical, but it's forgivable because he was hosting a battle and it's not really the hosts place to get mad about disrespectful bars. So yeah, you missed something.
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Old 03-19-2014, 12:27 AM   #324
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I thought I explained it pretty well. I was saying it's hypocritical, but it's forgivable because he was hosting a battle and it's not really the hosts place to get mad about disrespectful bars. So yeah, you missed something.
"The only vice that cannot be forgiven is hypocrisy. The repentance of a hypocrite is itself hypocrisy."

No one said he should've objected to his homie being a racist. I'm saying that he gave up his right to complain about racism long before he was cheering on his homie's hate speech

"He does not believe that does not live according to his belief."
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Hmm. As an Irish person from Ireland, a country that was stripped off its culture, raped and colonised for 800 years until we lost our language, our religion, our everything, weren't allowed into the universities built on our land, couldn't vote for the politicians who made our laws, had to fight and die for centuries for our own freedom..

what exactly puts me in the same bracket as the people who killed my ancestors?

My skin colour?

Seems like the weakest most bullshit argument of all time. My history is the history shared by India and Iran and all the African and Asian countries colonised by imperial nations. I don't share shit with the British, or the Germans or the Belgians or any of the other colonisers no matter how white I am.
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Over 1 million people starved to death in the Irish famine because Great Britain, the government in charge of keeping us safe, would not provide food.

That's a Stalin-esque genocide.

thank god they were all white so everything was fine for them while they starved to death.
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Over 1 million people starved to death in the Irish famine because Great Britain, the government in charge of keeping us safe, would not provide food.

That's a Stalin-esque genocide.

thank god they were all white so everything was fine for them while they starved to death.
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So many of your are pseudo-intellectual, uninformed North Americans who find it impossible to speak in anything but anecdotes, generalities and half-truths. I'm not the type to say something as cliche as 'educate yourselves' but the arrogance and the misinformation and the omission of important details and simplification is just bonkers.
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So many of your are pseudo-intellectual, uninformed North Americans who find it impossible to speak in anything but anecdotes, generalities and half-truths. I'm not the type to say something as cliche as 'educate yourselves' but the arrogance and the misinformation and the omission of important details and simplification is just bonkers.
yeah get a clue you ignorant americans!!!!
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So many of your are pseudo-intellectual, uninformed North Americans who find it impossible to speak in anything but anecdotes, generalities and half-truths. I'm not the type to say something as cliche as 'educate yourselves' but the arrogance and the misinformation and the omission of important details and simplification is just bonkers.
The potato famine was like 300 years ago. Get over it. You gave us St Paddy's Day. I thank you for that.
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The potato famine was like 300 years ago. Get over it. You gave us St Paddy's Day. I thank you for that.
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The potato famine was like 300 years ago. Get over it. You gave us St Paddy's Day. I thank you for that.
the famine was like 160 years ago but expecting you to know literally anything about Ireland seems optimistic.

and oppressed countries don't just immediately recover from famines. our population was cut to ribbons. millions died emigrating.
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the famine was like 160 years ago but expecting you to know literally anything about Ireland seems optimistic.

and oppressed countries don't just immediately recover from famines. our population was cut to ribbons. millions died emigrating.
How much do you know about Canada?
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How much do you know about Canada?
Trivia and few historical facts?

But I'm not the one who stages arguments on the internet making extremely broad and universal statements when actually my sphere of information is extremely narrow.
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Hmm. As an Irish person from Ireland, a country that was stripped off its culture, raped and colonised for 800 years until we lost our language, our religion, our everything, weren't allowed into the universities built on our land, couldn't vote for the politicians who made our laws, had to fight and die for centuries for our own freedom..

what exactly puts me in the same bracket as the people who killed my ancestors?

My skin colour?

Seems like the weakest most bullshit argument of all time. My history is the history shared by India and Iran and all the African and Asian countries colonised by imperial nations. I don't share shit with the British, or the Germans or the Belgians or any of the other colonisers no matter how white I am.
What does this have to do with anything?
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What does this have to do with anything?
It was more relevant a few pages ago.
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but it ties into the point that while racism, both personal and systematic/institutional, exists, race is pretty close to being a construct.

so when anyone talks about white people having all the advantages throughout history they actually means a certain kind of white person. not white people.
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but it ties into the point that while racism, both personal and systematic/institutional, exists, race is pretty close to being a construct.

so when anyone talks about white people having all the advantages throughout history they actually means a certain kind of white person. not white people.
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Hmm. As an Irish person from Ireland, a country that was stripped off its culture, raped and colonised for 800 years until we lost our language, our religion, our everything, weren't allowed into the universities built on our land, couldn't vote for the politicians who made our laws, had to fight and die for centuries for our own freedom..

what exactly puts me in the same bracket as the people who killed my ancestors?

My skin colour?
No - you became 'white' in this country - USA
when you got to be in charge of the black slaves
hence the terms - 'redneck' 'cracker' paddy's
The Whites allowed you to monitor and keep the blacks in line
why do you think most cops and firemen in the US are Irish-Americans
who drove the big cop cars aka 'paddy-wagons'?

you earned your whiteness
no more highlanders vs low landers with other elite whites
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what part of irish person living in ireland did you not read
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Over 1 million people starved to death in the Irish famine because Great Britain, the government in charge of keeping us safe, would not provide food.

That's a Stalin-esque genocide.

thank god they were all white so everything was fine for them while they starved to death.
Irish received help from an unlikely source during that famine

Choctaws helped starving Irish in 1847 this act shaped tribal culture

http://www.choctawnation.com/history...ribal-culture/
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Irish Origins of Civilization - Michael Tsarion (google that)
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oh this one source you have is the sole definitive way for me to learn about my people? oh cool thanks. i'll write a letter to the taoiseach and we'll replace everything we learn by being irish all the time with just watching this. thanks for the cultural appropriation via this one source. that's really intelligent of you.
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@Ass Napkin Ed how do you have so much knowledge but have such a horrible time articulating it sometimes and where/when did you develop your unique forum posting style?
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oh this one source you have is the sole definitive way for me to learn about my people? oh cool thanks.
yeah the isle of man and the scota (akhenaton's daughter?)
the black irish
connections to north africa

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what you're saying seems to hugely refer to the influences of other races in irish ancestry and pretty much zero to do with the point i was making
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oh this one source you have is the sole definitive way for me to learn about my people? oh cool thanks. i'll write a letter to the taoiseach and we'll replace everything we learn by being irish all the time with just watching this. thanks for the cultural appropriation via this one source. that's really intelligent of you.
the Irish are interesting and have the deepest history of all Europeans (if you wanna call them that)
you're probably closer related to Ice Cube than you are Queen Elizabeth
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what you're saying seems to hugely refer to the influences of other races in irish ancestry and pretty much zero to do with the point i was making
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the Irish are interesting and have the deepest history of all Europeans (if you wanna call them that)
you're probably closer related to Ice Cube than you are Queen Elizabeth
I'm neither. I'm very, very Celtic.
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must be why i like megadef
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must be why i like megadef
how's he related but yea i definitely do lol
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how's he related but yea i definitely do lol
battle with Diz - remember - 'you're Armenian - fuck it - i'm Irish mufucka'
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remembering a three year old megadef bar?

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