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Old 03-19-2019, 06:33 AM   #1
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my boy messaged him years ago man.. and the type of messages he sent back were god sent shit. Indecipherable godly language bruv. We're speaking on it right now and idk man. Idk
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back in the day he used to leave me voicemails freestyling over beats I mailed to him periodically....fun fellow ....

in fact this is a video version of one of them...this beat just collected dust..sheesh...but yea....I used to get these once a week for a brief period of time
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back in the day he used to leave me voicemails freestyling over beats I mailed to him periodically....fun fellow ....

in fact this is a video version of one of them...this beat just collected dust..sheesh...but yea....I used to get these once a week for a brief period of time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uTWnP4lsqM
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if you seen just a glimpse of what this fool Franco wrote to this guy man.. my mind is wrecked

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Always loved Franco.. Man I feel kinda sad that you don't see Franco like this anymore.. Hope the dude is alright.. He's prob. the most mysterious and fascinating person in battle rap history and ofc one of the most talented.

There are only a few battlers that I send prayers and blessings to on a reg. basis but Franco is def among them
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Franco is easily an all time favorite of mine and one of the best freestylers ever, without a doubt
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Went to college at UCSC with Franco, hung out with him a few times and always saw him at parties battling random fools. He particularly hated this guy that I went to high school with named Sayre. Last time I saw him was at KOTD Alcatraz and the after party at Lush's house. My friend gave him some painkillers, he was acting weird that day. I called him out for using old material against Isaac Knox and he was trying to justify doing it. Caddy Ron wanted to beat him up for disrespecting a couple cute girls that were hanging out. Later that night after I left the Franco's Blanket incident occurred.
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Went to college at UCSC with Franco, hung out with him a few times and always saw him at parties battling random fools. He particularly hated this guy that I went to high school with named Sayre. Last time I saw him was at KOTD Alcatraz and the after party at Lush's house. My friend gave him some painkillers, he was acting weird that day. I called him out for using old material against Isaac Knox and he was trying to justify doing it. Caddy Ron wanted to beat him up for disrespecting a couple cute girls that were hanging out. Later that night after I left the Franco's Blanket incident occurred.
1. Why did he hate this "Sayre"?
2. acting weird how?
3. How did he disrespect the cute girls and why?
4. You left the party? LOL man what I wouldn't give to be at a party like that
5. Can u plz share about the Franco's blanket incident??? Super curious LOL
6. What did Franco study in University? Plz tell me English literature LOL

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Sayre went by the rap name Mister Sayre, he was part of the rap crew The Lost and Found Generation and later Rec League. He was kind of pretentious and could be a jerk to people he didn't know or like. Plus Franco thought he sucked, that he was better, and maybe a little jealous of what other people thought of him. He was acting weird in that he was kind self conscious of his diminishing spot in the future of battle rap at that point. He was mad that the girls didn't know who he was. I stayed at the party till like 1am but I had to work the next day. I have been going to battles since BOTB1 so most of the OG West Coasters recognize me so I get to go to after parties sometimes. The Franco's blanket incident has been talked about on an episode of the Dirtbag Dan Show, I cant remember which one. Short version is that Aspect One was sleeping in one of the rooms with a blanket that Franco brought for himself and that Franco was too scared to ask for it back so he had to have Lush wake him up and get it back for him. Lush tells it way more funny. He did study English Lit.
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Dirtbag Dan Show episode 22, right around the 1:03:00 mark
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Dirtbag Dan Show episode 22, right around the 1:03:00 mark
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@Water Mage if Franco returned to battle rap do you think he'd excel in the current era? Also who would you want to see him battle.
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No sightings, last contact was through email. flowmastafatsac@gmail.com I heard about an event that Ghambit was hosting in Santa Cruz called KOTD Chaos on the Coast and thought it would be a good fit for him. He sent me some cryptic email with some song lyrics alluding to the fact that he was afraid to go anywhere because he might get beat up somehow. I would like to see him battle someone like Pedro because they both don't really like to prepare. Dizaster has openly challenged Franco to a freestyle battle and claimed that he was willing to put up the money for his travel costs and hotel fees.
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Everybody should just spam his email and get him to agree to come out of hiding.
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Franco is on facebook..i just friended him not long ago

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...and yes Franco one of the greatest..always hoping for a comeback..i need to bust out my "Best OF Franco" DVD
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No sightings, last contact was through email. flowmastafatsac@gmail.com I heard about an event that Ghambit was hosting in Santa Cruz called KOTD Chaos on the Coast and thought it would be a good fit for him. He sent me some cryptic email with some song lyrics alluding to the fact that he was afraid to go anywhere because he might get beat up somehow. I would like to see him battle someone like Pedro because they both don't really like to prepare. Dizaster has openly challenged Franco to a freestyle battle and claimed that he was willing to put up the money for his travel costs and hotel fees.
Do you have any idea why he fears getting beat up? And do think said fears are founded in reality? Also has Franco gotten beaten up often in the past?

Diz vs Franco sounds sounds like a good freestyle battle. Nice choice. Should this be on beat?
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On the Dirtbag Dan Show Lush talked about him owing people a bunch of money. He has gotten punched a couple times, once at a party by that guy Sayre I talked about when Franco wouldn't stop spitting bars at him. I was there for that one and had to get in between them. The other time was vs. Capitol Hill which can be seen on youtube. Franco has always been better on beat. All his classic battle footage was freestyle on beat.
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On the Dirtbag Dan Show Lush talked about him owing people a bunch of money. He has gotten punched a couple times, once at a party by that guy Sayre I talked about when Franco wouldn't stop spitting bars at him. I was there for that one and had to get in between them. The other time was vs. Capitol Hill which can be seen on youtube. Franco has always been better on beat. All his classic battle footage was freestyle on beat.
Franco handled that Capital Hill incident well. I hadn't seen that clip. Thanks


I might email Franco later and see if he'd be receptive to doing an interview with someone like the battle Rap resume guy. If he's gonna come back on a two battle contract vs Diz and Frak some promo would be nice to remind heads this guy is a legend. Franco vs Top-r might be good too.
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From what I can tell this is Francos first and last battle in the written era.


That is 7 years ago. I wonder if he'd update hi is approach in 2019 or 2020
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@Water Mage if Franco returned to battle rap do you think he'd excel in the current era? Also who would you want to see him battle.
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Well Franco would have to tweak his style to excel in the current era... Ya know, when he writes he's almost like a backpacker version of head I.C.E. except very far from being the height of his powers and not as good of a judge of his own writing / delivery as I.C.E. is

In written battles his delivery is way off, never lets anything sink in and leaves the listener in the dust unless you are on the same cerebral frequency that he's on (James Vanderbeek on 6 grams of tweak)

For Franco to do well in this era he would need to catch lightning in a bottle, he's all lightning, no bottle

No matter what I think it would be an uphill battle for Franco to excel in the current era since style and freestyling are his strengths and it seems like he's lost in the era that he came up in (and who could blame him for that?) So I don't see him adapting

It's tragic really.. Franco is just such an insanely compelling figure for me.. Kinda like a tragic hero lyricist.. Like a modern day Icarus who blazed too brightly, got too close to the sun and burned out... Never really getting the good fortune that his boldness, courage and virtuosity deserved.. Hell, I'll say that he deserved to go as far as (say) Eyedea or Sage Francis did (not a fan of either btw) did in rap.. He would appeal to the same demographic but he lacked the artsy fartsy and philosophical pretensions that bait the hipster / backpacker crowd like catnip

You can laugh at that story of Franco getting pissed that some battle rap fangirls didn't know who he is but at the same time you can kinda understand the frustration...

If me and my backpacker buddies were at that party we woulda booed those girls for not knowing Franco
and we would have surrounded caddy like a blob to protect Franco

And god damn it if I had been there I would have snatched that blanket off of Aspect One's sorry hide! LOL

There's a total lack of reverence for the freestyle era... the top tier of the freestyle era are Titans and their achievement's should never fade with the passing of time because their achievements simply can not and will not be matched.... When talking about people like Franco, The Saurus, Nocando, and all of the other freestyle titans.. the word legendary doesn't do them justice. Not even close.

we could walk the earth for another 30,000 years and still not see the likes of these TITANs again.. I feel so lucky to be born around the same time as them

If I saw Franco, The Saurus, or any of the other freestyle Titans the only thing stopping me from bowing before them would be because it would just embarass them.. But I would be doing backflips if I saw Franco irl

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From what I can tell this is Francos first and last battle in the written era.

http://youtu.be/bN4ZYC6qH-4

That is 7 years ago. I wonder if he'd update hi is approach in 2019 or 2020
?? I thought he's had way more than 1 battle in the written era..

I'll try to find some of them later I thought he had at least 3 written battles....
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From what I can tell this is Francos first and last battle in the written era.

http://youtu.be/bN4ZYC6qH-4

That is 7 years ago. I wonder if he'd update hi is approach in 2019 or 2020
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?? I thought he's had way more than 1 battle in the written era..

I'll try to find some of them later I thought he had at least 3 written battles....
He battled J Pro at an early KOTD West event, I think it was the same one as Philly Swain vs Daylyt. J Pro had all of his battles deleted so it's not online anymore.
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?? I thought he's had way more than 1 battle in the written era..

I'll try to find some of them later I thought he had at least 3 written battles....
Yeah three is correct.
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Franco handled that Capital Hill incident well. I hadn't seen that clip. Thanks

http://youtu.be/k4ITONgzQeU
It's cuz of this type of stuff that I said before he is like the quintessential battler of his time.. He had something to prove... physically an underdog but he knows he can win and he's just the right combination of style, punches and flow, perfect timing/delivery.. And in this battle U can see he honestly didn't gaf about life or death in that moment he was just so in the zone

Franco's timing is just so good too... Like how the fuck are ya gonna style on someone in a devastating way mere seconds after being swung on by a 300 lb guy

I love the pause while Franco, robbed of his greatest power source, the almighty beat ,for a moment, decisively declares that nothing will stop him then the beat comes back and he says "so bring the beat back"... And for that moment, Franco is riding a tidal wave after just being hit by one.

I would have lost my shit if I had been in the building for that.. I damn near lost my shit the first time I saw that footage

Anyone know what he says RIGHT after "bring the beat back" crowd drowned him out ?

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Dude I don't know how to thank you.. You made my day with your entire post

I can't even react to your post without being totally weird so I am just gonna say thanks for sharing some precious battle lore

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He did study English Lit.
CALLED IT! Anyone else imagining an alternative version of "Dead poet's society" with Robin Williams inspiring Franco to go back to scribble jam after losing to Nocan... And Robin Williams indirectly helping Franco win by teaching him some special vocab that somehow helped Franco think of a Scribble-winning final punchline in a rematch vs Nocando?


Watch this scene and imagine that this Kid is Franco.. It will make the movie much more enjoyable... And at 1:46 Franco starts freestyling in front of the class and Robin Williams says "brilliant! And starts beat-boxing to help keep Franco going...

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It's cuz of this type of stuff that I said before he is like the quintessential battler of his time.. He had something to prove... physically an underdog but he knows he can win and he's just the right combination of style, punches and flow, perfect timing/delivery.. And in this battle U can see he honestly didn't gaf about life or death in that moment he was just so in the zone

Franco's timing is just so good too... Like how the fuck are ya gonna style on someone in a devastating way mere seconds after being swung on by a 300 lb guy

I love the pause while Franco, robbed of his greatest power source, the almighty beat ,for a moment, decisively declares that nothing will stop him then the beat comes back and he says "so bring the beat back"... And for that moment, Franco is riding a tidal wave after just being hit by one.

I would have lost my shit if I had been in the building for that.. I damn near lost my shit the first time I saw that footage

Anyone know what he says RIGHT after "bring the beat back" crowd drowned him out ?
Something like I'll still grab the mic/ no matter what Franco battle tight
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yeah but there's something else.. something that rhymes with "back".. I guess its impossible to hear over the crowd roaring
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Franco also battled Kodyack (RIP) at BOTB1, really good performance by Franco IMO.

“Kodyack, look at homies back there’s a note attached saying he’s gross and fat but I could have told you that just from lookin at a photograph”

I saw the ex I battle posted but I think the OT round is it’s own separate video and Franco goes offff in it. I remember there was some drama where Franco basically realized it was gonna go to OT regardless so he spit a random verse for his 3rd round and saved his battle verse for the OT and smoked ex I. Pretty sure he said “he lost his best friend in a fatal car accident/ then this motherfucker got a dui like three months after it”
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Old 03-21-2019, 10:59 PM   #35
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From what I can tell this is Francos first and last battle in the written era.

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That is 7 years ago. I wonder if he'd update hi is approach in 2019 or 2020


this happened around the sme time...i always that Francos last battle was vs J-pro
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How about Franco vs Frak?

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would love to see it,,,always thought Frak look like Francos little brother
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i like that dude switches up his cadence unlike many of the sheep... cites kool keith as an influence ...dope
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this happened around the sme time...i always that Francos last battle was vs J-pro
If I recall correctly, Jpro had his battles pulled in order to pursue a professional career... Hence the pro moniker .. but seriously did anything happen in the Jpro v Franco battle that would have caused Franco to hang up his jersey?
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@Water Mage I hate to say this but Franco's FB page lists his area of study as environmental studies. But there is a 1% chance I misread that.. I like the English major angle
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