[SHOWTIME]

According to Dirtbag Dan, at least.
But didn’t Dirtbag Dan have Cadalack Ron on his show countless times?

Makes sense. Just more “Weirdo” stuff coming from anyone and everyone involved in KOTD.

[RickyProehl]

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

According to Dirtbag Dan, at least.
But didn’t Dirtbag Dan have Cadalack Ron on his show countless times?

Makes sense. Just more “Weirdo” stuff coming from anyone and everyone involved in KOTD.

You nailed it brody

Dbds pushing his political views too hard led me to stop watching his podcast like 10 episodes ago its no different than ESPN we want sports. We want battle rap talk not more nonsense get enough of that on the news bruh

[Emancee]

What is the connection between DBD and KOTD? Other than being a commentator and getting fired?

Other than that, the current emo Dan <<<

[Emseed]

Why is jeffrey a racist?

I think I recall DBD saying Caddy Ron hates all races equally, he seemed like a guy that just said a bunch of stupid ignorant shit.

[Profess]

Looks like we can safely say that Jeff is intentionally provocative. I'm not sure teasing someone about having a white wife makes them racist. But it isn't a great angle. Jeff, Dan, and Caustic were going back and forth in the IG comments. Dan was calling for Organik to speak against the clothes the young republicans were wearing at a country music concert. Jeff was going at Caustic for being a waiter. Maybe these guys should settle this with a battle. Def some WWE shit. The SJW's vs the Young Republican fued

[sleeping dogs]

center right vs slightly further to the right. SMACK set it up

[The Wrist]

if your brain somehow equates wearing a KKK outfit to a guy having a white wife....as if these are somehow both obvious points of hypocrisy or something , they at the very least confused as shit....but probably racist....and have a lot to sort out....and/or are very stupid

[dking11]

Probably. Unfortunately politics do matter in real life. These guys loudly and proudly supported Trump on social media, and Trump and the republican party have been brazen in their disgust for minorities recently. Hip hop is a minority culture that came out of anti-Reagan/anti establishment, and these white kids are rubbing Trump and being a republican in people's faces? So yeah, I could see that rubbing people the wrong. I guess the question is is whether DBD and some of these other guys are the right people to make that critique.

Foreman was constantly RTing Youtube swindlers like Cernovich and Alex Jones, and then plays dumb when he got accused of being alt-right. Jeffrey tweeted out support for Milo. These aren't good people, and they probably aren't too sharp either if they can't see these snake oil salesmen for what they are. So sorry if I don't have sympathy. Being a republican is fine; being alt-right is weirdo shit. It's hilarious to me some of these kids think they can get away with this internet forum rhetoric in real life without getting looked at sideways.

What did Jeffrey say about RYD that was referenced on Live last night?

[6000GP]

Being a republican or a trump supporter doesn’t make you racist. However, being in white supremacist gangs, referencing odinism, Valhalla, and “the fourteen words” and using hip hop culture to express racist rhetoric might.

[mapleleaf]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

Tu quoque "argument" follows the pattern:

Person A makes claim X.
Person B asserts that A's actions or past claims are inconsistent with the truth of claim X.
Therefore X is false.
An example would be

Peter: "Based on the arguments I have presented, it is evident that it is morally wrong to use animals for food or clothing."
Bill: "But you are wearing a leather jacket and you have a roast beef sandwich in your hand! How can you say that using animals for food and clothing is wrong?"[2]
It is a fallacy because the moral character or past actions of the opponent are generally irrelevant to the logic of the argument.[3] It is often used as a red herring tactic and is a special case of the ad hominem fallacy, which is a category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of facts about the person presenting or supporting the claim or argument.[4]

[All Day]

Originally Posted by dking11

Foreman was constantly RTing Youtube swindlers like Cernovich and Alex Jones, and then plays dumb when he got accused of being alt-right. Jeffrey tweeted out support for Milo. These aren't good people, and they probably aren't too sharp either if they can't see these snake oil salesmen for what they are. So sorry if I don't have sympathy. Being a republican is fine; being alt-right is weirdo shit. It's hilarious to me some of these kids think they can get away with this internet forum rhetoric in real life without getting looked at sideways.

yeah this part is where shit gets weird. they go to these extremes and i have no idea if it's how they really feel or if they play it up to be annoying but either way they put themselves in a position to have their words picked apart

[RickyProehl]

Originally Posted by dking11

Probably. Unfortunately politics do matter in real life. These guys loudly and proudly supported Trump on social media, and Trump and the republican party have been brazen in their disgust for minorities recently. Hip hop is a minority culture that came out of anti-Reagan/anti establishment, and these white kids are rubbing Trump and being a republican in people's faces? So yeah, I could see that rubbing people the wrong. I guess the question is is whether DBD and some of these other guys are the right people to make that critique.

Foreman was constantly RTing Youtube swindlers like Cernovich and Alex Jones, and then plays dumb when he got accused of being alt-right. Jeffrey tweeted out support for Milo. These aren't good people, and they probably aren't too sharp either if they can't see these snake oil salesmen for what they are. So sorry if I don't have sympathy. Being a republican is fine; being alt-right is weirdo shit. It's hilarious to me some of these kids think they can get away with this internet forum rhetoric in real life without getting looked at sideways.

What did Jeffrey say about RYD that was referenced on Live last night?

Im more of a Ben Shapiro guy (nh) tbh

[thatguy]

Originally Posted by RickyProehl

Im more of a Ben Shapiro guy (nh) tbh

my perception of you has changed and can never be changed back

[thatguy]

both sides are right. all battlers involved on either side of this debate seem like cringe worthy people who I wouldn't want to be associated with in any way tbh. I just enjoy the battles and try to forget that 80% of people associated with battlerap are trash as people.

avo you one of the good ones, dont get sucked it to defending one racist over another.

[RickyProehl]

Originally Posted by thatguy

my perception of you has changed and can never be changed back

Hahaha sorry brody

[Profess]

Will Jeff return?

[irvsykeg]

who is jeffrey? assumed y'all meant hollohan like uh old news but seems like something recent

[Bwdawatt]

Originally Posted by Emseed

I think I recall DBD saying Caddy Ron hates all races equally, he seemed like a guy that just said a bunch of stupid ignorant shit.

Sounds like an excuse for double standards imo.

The bar seems to be pretty low for qualifying as a 'racist' these days. Drawing attention to someone's race =/= being racist, at least not in the context Jeff seems to have done it.

Just like to add, I have no idea who Jeff is.

[JR77]

YouTube

YouTube

[irvsykeg]

so he's just another terrible battler who had ultra basic bars everybody could speak

[Grayfox215th]

I love when people try to defend racism with a misdirection.

And if Caddy was a true blue racist, do you really think he'd be respected by cats like Pen? Or part of a mostly Mexican gang? Jeff is trash and a racist twat. End.

[6000GP]

Originally Posted by Grayfox215th

I love when people try to defend racism with a misdirection.

And if Caddy was a true blue racist, do you really think he'd be respected by cats like Pen? Or part of a mostly Mexican gang? Jeff is trash and a racist twat. End.

Pretty sure Jeff is friends with Goodz and other black people

Even still, having Black or Mexican friends doesn’t preclude someone from being racist, anyway

Still not clear on what it is that Jeff did/said that y’all consider racist in the first place tbh

[MCVeteran]

Originally Posted by mapleleaf

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

Tu quoque "argument" follows the pattern:

Person A makes claim X.
Person B asserts that A's actions or past claims are inconsistent with the truth of claim X.
Therefore X is false.
An example would be

Peter: "Based on the arguments I have presented, it is evident that it is morally wrong to use animals for food or clothing."
Bill: "But you are wearing a leather jacket and you have a roast beef sandwich in your hand! How can you say that using animals for food and clothing is wrong?"[2]
It is a fallacy because the moral character or past actions of the opponent are generally irrelevant to the logic of the argument.[3] It is often used as a red herring tactic and is a special case of the ad hominem fallacy, which is a category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of facts about the person presenting or supporting the claim or argument.[4]

Hi Maple :-)))) it’s been a long time

Maybe they haven’t gone and told you. I don’t sign shoes no moe

I’m assuming you and Matthew fulfilled your dreams of living in the same room together; how’s the bunk bed situation coming along?

I miss Phillip Drummond

[MCVeteran]

Originally Posted by irvsykeg

so he's just another terrible battler who had ultra basic bars everybody could speak

Do you still talk to Revanon? My big football player friends say hello Matthew Irv Sykull. I hope you’re doing well, staying on top of your adderoll, and progressing at the moving company you work for

[Emancee]

Originally Posted by 6000GP

Even still, having Black or Mexican friends doesn’t preclude someone from being racist, anyway

A relative of mine is guilty of this. He has a black wife and he recently went on a tirade against 'them Arabs'. When someone checked him on this, he was like "I'm not racist (Mentions towards wife), well obviously."

Nah, you're racist as hell AND have a black wife, lol. Just because his wife is foreign doesn't mean any opinion you have about race is automatically justified!

[Profess]

Originally Posted by 6000GP

Still not clear on what it is that Jeff did/said that y’all consider racist in the first place tbh

Not sure either.. maybe Jeff made this tweet

Twitter

[irvsykeg]

Originally Posted by MCVeteran

Do you still talk to Revanon? My big football player friends say hello Matthew Irv Sykull. I hope you’re doing well, staying on top of your adderoll, and progressing at the moving company you work for

nah, rev didn't accept my fb friend request. it's spelled adderall. more misspellings and you'll need to edit your safeway resume to a lower typed WPM score. battling tomorrow, wish me luck. or come on down with your football friends who will beat me up!

[Profess]

Originally Posted by irvsykeg

nah, rev didn't accept my fb friend request. it's spelled adderall. more misspellings and you'll need to edit your safeway resume to a lower typed WPM score. battling tomorrow, wish me luck. or come on down with your football friends who will beat me up!

Are you being bullied?

[My Kall]

It's laughable that anyone thinks people are infallible on race relations ipso facto they have black friends or rep black individuals in social media. How do we know the black folk they associate with don't detest multiculturalism and possess the same cynical prejudices towards blacks. Hypothetically my whiteness doesn't incapacitate me from hating white cultures (which I don't hate btw, I could just condition myself to hate those).

Honestly, friendships with white progressives or gestures made in support of white progressives is more persuasive evidence you could use to counter accusations of racism.

Obviously I miss the race discussions that were rife on this site 3-4 years ago.

[MCVeteran]

Originally Posted by irvsykeg

nah, rev didn't accept my fb friend request. it's spelled adderall. more misspellings and you'll need to edit your safeway resume to a lower typed WPM score. battling tomorrow, wish me luck. or come on down with your football friends who will beat me up!

Well...how’d ya do Matthew?!?!?? Did you wear your very funny brooks n Dunn shirt?

[irvsykeg]

i actually couldn't find the brooks & dunn shirt, which pisses me off because i know i didn't throw out that classic. been rocking my toby keith shirt lately, but it's too faded to put in front of HD camera

won 3-0, crowd was small and not as active as i'd like, but won convincingly. my super duper outdated style was slightly slept on, but hey, that's ok

[MCVeteran]

Originally Posted by irvsykeg

i actually couldn't find the brooks & dunn shirt, which pisses me off because i know i didn't throw out that classic. been rocking my toby keith shirt lately, but it's too faded to put in front of HD camera

won 3-0, crowd was small and not as active as i'd like, but won convincingly. my super duper outdated style was slightly slept on, but hey, that's ok

Any footage?

bullshit aside i've always thought you were a talented writer

[irvsykeg]

ya you've always been a fan, its appreciated, i do it for y'all

yeah i have the footage. they'll prob have it posted in a month or something. i posted clips on my rappy battly fb

ill put a round on da youtubes for ya

[Profess]

Originally Posted by My Kall

It's laughable that anyone thinks people are infallible on race relations ipso facto they have black friends or rep black individuals in social media. How do we know the black folk they associate with don't detest multiculturalism and possess the same cynical prejudices towards blacks. Hypothetically my whiteness doesn't incapacitate me from hating white cultures (which I don't hate btw, I could just condition myself to hate those).

Honestly, friendships with white progressives or gestures made in support of white progressives is more persuasive evidence you could use to counter accusations of racism.

Obviously I miss the race discussions that were rife on this site 3-4 years ago.

Great point- IMO interpreting someone having friends of one race as meaning that they full out ride with that race is a mistake. Albeit an understandable one, not a laughable one. What happened, iirc there wasn't hyperbole on this site 3-4 years ago.

[My Kall]

Originally Posted by Profess

Great point- IMO interpreting someone having friends of one race as meaning that they full out ride with that race is a mistake. Albeit an understandable one, not a laughable one. What happened, iirc there wasn't hyperbole on this site 3-4 years ago.

What happened 3-4 years ago? Hundreds more posters frequented this site so naturally it culminated in hundreds of threads revolving around race. I joined the exodus around 2016.

Why do I miss the discussions? Obviously I'm relatively progressive and tolerant on racial topics and people who shared my perspectives never got denounced as a heretical traitors to their nations, so I miss that about RMBVA when I read other forums. It's easy to forget, but internet forums and comments sections did used to be hospitable for posters and lurkers of my persuasion lol.

[Profess]

Originally Posted by My Kall

What happened 3-4 years ago? Hundreds more posters frequented this site so naturally it culminated in hundreds of threads revolving around race. I joined the exodus around 2016.

Why do I miss the discussions? Obviously I'm relatively progressive and tolerant on racial topics and people who shared my perspectives never got denounced as a heretical traitors to their nations, so I miss that about RMBVA when I read other forums. It's easy to forget, but internet forums and comments sections did used to be hospitable for posters and lurkers of my persuasion lol.

A few things have decreased traffic on this site. But only one is clear to me, and that is the discord. The other one that I'll mention seems counter intuitive, and that is the increasing popularity if battle rap. Seems like a combo of the old fans leaving rmbva as the scene changed, and the new fans interacting on newer media outlets.

I made the hyperbole comment bc you said the black friend thing was laughable. And now that I think of it- it is, but it's common. Plus, I'm always looking for an excuse to use the word hyperbole.

I remember you as a reasonable poster. Anyway, this site hasn't been the same since Detour stopped posting

[bobbylight]

Wtf is discord? Like there are like 20 dudes talking on a mic to each other?