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Old 09-19-2019, 09:13 PM   #1
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Old 09-19-2019, 11:41 PM   #2
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Old 09-21-2019, 09:03 AM   #3
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started watching this last night when i got in pissed for about 30 minutes wasn't half bad tbf considering i normally cant stand math
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Old 09-22-2019, 06:39 PM   #4
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@Abstrakt What do you think about Math saying Danny Myers bit Canibus' style?
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Old 09-22-2019, 07:28 PM   #6
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^lmao retarded af and reminds me of wshh comments where they'd be like FUCK THIS WHITE BOY RONE HE STOLE KOOL G RAP STYLE

danny thinks parallel universe is bizarro world, thats his science level, bis was the original IT WAS ALiENS
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^lmao retarded af and reminds me of wshh comments where they'd be like FUCK THIS WHITE BOY RONE HE STOLE KOOL G RAP STYLE

danny thinks parallel universe is bizarro world, thats his science level, bis was the original IT WAS ALiENS
Interesting take, I understood the comparison as the way they punch and deliver. Did you watch the part where the Danny/ Canibus comparison was made?
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of course not

and canibus rarely punched

canibus has like 4 diff distinct styles throughout his career, danny says shit like "my house was made of australian beer"
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bis was the original IT WAS ALiENS
Ya Bis is weird but I have a rule that if I listen to Canibus I have to believe everything he says 100%.. his songs are way more dope that way.
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im not watchin that shit its 56 minutes long

did see clip of it on battle rap discord where they spent 2 minutes trying to figure out caustic name tho and that was funny as fuck

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@Abstrakt What do you think about Math saying Danny Myers bit Canibus' style?
Mehh, even when Bis was a little more punch heavy ala the dmx vs canibus days (Yes I'm old with the mix tape reference) , still don't see the link.

Lot's of the old grindtime cats did borrow/ incorporate lines/styles from a lot of underground emcees though. Most didn't happen to be memorable enough or have staying power to care enough about it, just not the case here.

For example since I brought it up, J-Pro had a very heavy Chino XL 1996 type influence in his simile approach.
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Mehh, even when Bis was a little more punch heavy ala the dmx vs canibus days (Yes I'm old with the mix tape reference) , still don't see the link.

Lot's of the old grindtime cats did borrow/ incorporate lines/styles from a lot of underground emcees though. Most didn't happen to be memorable enough or have staying power to care enough about it, just not the case here.

For example since I brought it up, J-Pro had a very heavy Chino XL 1996 type influence in his simile approach.
I used the term "bit" so the connotation is bad. Had I paraphrased it as Math said Danny was "influenced" by Canibus then that might have been more accurate.

Thing is, Math sounded pretty certain when he said that. Personally, I don't see it yet, so I'm not saying Math doesn't have a point.


*by the way, old school rappers that battler rappers bit/were influenced by might be a good future thread.

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I used the term "bit" so the connotation is bad. Had I paraphrased it as Math said Danny was "influenced" by Canibus then that might have been more accurate.

Thing is, Math sounded pretty certain when he said that. Personally, I don't see it yet, so I'm not saying Math doesn't have a point.


*by the way, old school rappers that battler rappers bit/were influenced by might be a good future thread.

Props for the J-Pro/ Chino XL example
props for trying to keep some interesting material for the forum. Yeah bit and influenced by is a horse of a different color. I'd need to hear more of the context of what Math is talking about probably. I mean if you reach far enough, you bound to touch something at the end of the day, but still don't see it

I like the idea you brought up, it would be on some underground scat fetish shit, pun I guess, but still relevant to some of us to a little degree. Most of them cats are corny using hindsight, but even most of the better URL rappers have more of an old school influence. I rarely hear, if ever any battle rapper that was influenced by any emcee that started rapping after 2010 or way before in most cases
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everybody was influenced by canibus lol
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you are alternating between saying dumb shit and saying nothing at all, wtf are u even blathering about? "MATH SEEMED PRETTY CERTAIN!" why don't you draw a connection or provide substance if there is any

no, i don't think danny myers, who is consistently a prime example of the lowest form of wordplay and punches, is similar at all to one of the most uniquely talented battle writers of all time. canibus quotes from pre 2000 are still insane and sound nothing like danny.

you can't copy/bite a style like canibus ya momos. if you are that creative, you'd be doing your own thing. it'd be like biting bender. you can't just bite bender without understanding that level

and wtf are y'all talking about with bis and punches? bis rarely had punches and the few times i can remember being applicable, they were backseat to the rhyming and tone like rip off your skin just to get on your nerves.

meanwhile danny can't write a punch without inventing an impossible scenario to say nothing

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and yes, all of these dudes were influenced by canibus. canibus raised what was possible with writing.
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you are alternating between saying dumb shit and saying nothing at all, wtf are u even blathering about? "MATH SEEMED PRETTY CERTAIN!" why don't you draw a connection or provide substance if there is any

no, i don't think danny myers, who is consistently a prime example of the lowest form of wordplay and punches, is similar at all to one of the most uniquely talented battle writers of all time. canibus quotes from pre 2000 are still insane and sound nothing like danny.

you can't copy/bite a style like canibus ya momos. if you are that creative, you'd be doing your own thing. it'd be like biting bender. you can't just bite bender without understanding that level

and wtf are y'all talking about with bis and punches? bis rarely had punches and the few times i can remember being applicable, they were backseat to the rhyming and tone like rip off your skin just to get on your nerves.

meanwhile danny can't write a punch without inventing an impossible scenario to say nothing

LIKE FITTING EVERY STUDENT ON YOUR DOME, IM AHEAD OF THE CLASS

LIKE A HETEROSEXUAL WHALE I ORCHESTRATE

and yes, all of these dudes were influenced by canibus. canibus raised what was possible with writing.
I get it that you don't think Danny is in Canibus' weight class but you've really missed the point about Math's remarks. I suggest you check the primary source before regurgitating another illinformed emotional response. You are clearly a good writer when focused so don't sell yourself short. Please have a good think on it before deciding whether or not to respond again. Good luck
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you are alternating between saying dumb shit and saying nothing at all, wtf are u even blathering about? "MATH SEEMED PRETTY CERTAIN!" why don't you draw a connection or provide substance if there is any

no, i don't think danny myers, who is consistently a prime example of the lowest form of wordplay and punches, is similar at all to one of the most uniquely talented battle writers of all time. canibus quotes from pre 2000 are still insane and sound nothing like danny.

you can't copy/bite a style like canibus ya momos. if you are that creative, you'd be doing your own thing. it'd be like biting bender. you can't just bite bender without understanding that level

and wtf are y'all talking about with bis and punches? bis rarely had punches and the few times i can remember being applicable, they were backseat to the rhyming and tone like rip off your skin just to get on your nerves.

meanwhile danny can't write a punch without inventing an impossible scenario to say nothing

LIKE FITTING EVERY STUDENT ON YOUR DOME, IM AHEAD OF THE CLASS

LIKE A HETEROSEXUAL WHALE I ORCHESTRATE

and yes, all of these dudes were influenced by canibus. canibus raised what was possible with writing.
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profess you are a moron stfu there is no "point" to maths remarks, your whole post was DAE THINK THIS, CUZ I DON'T! while offering nothing of substance to the whole thing



yeah for sure yo, canibus 2.0

who gives a fuck about danny, he's literally one of the worst ever
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profess you are a moron stfu there is no "point" to maths remarks, your whole post was DAE THINK THIS, CUZ I DON'T! while offering nothing of substance to the whole thing



yeah for sure yo, canibus 2.0

who gives a fuck about danny, he's literally one of the worst ever
Serious question, who is the bigger moron IYO Danny or me?
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@Abstrakt What do you think about Math saying Danny Myers bit Canibus' style?
i dont see it. i think he means the "out there"nature of both
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i dont see it. i think he means the "out there"nature of both
That makes sense. They ARE both out there.. irregardless of who is a better rapper

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in a parallel universe maybe

u would 100% be the type of person who says irregardless instead of regardless. u say a whole lot of nothing with extra shit all over, i.e., dumb math canibus shit

are u ESL
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u would 100% be the type of person who says irregardless instead of regardless. u say a whole lot of nothing with extra shit all over, i.e., dumb math canibus shit

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that parallel universe shit is aids , every time i wanna give danny credit i remember some of the shit he says in battles and the set ups dear god
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I keep seeing people roasting the "dope on the organ" part but its the "hope for his Morgan" that really irks me

I enjoy Danny tho; mostly his older or non-URL shit more

I dont care for the alternate universe jawns much but I do have some of his worst set-ups in the "so bad they're good" category:
" little cool gal tender..(Lew Alcindor)"
"they label me as the boards leader..(horse feeder)"
"this General peel ya...(memorabilia)"
"I'm a nigga that prevails literature...(Pernell Whitaker)""

Danny is such a wierd case study frfr:
most of these I listed are from the Bigg K battle; a battle I've watched a bunch so I remembered them but take that battle for example-
In that battle he said these "gems" that did hit

then he also said some exceptionally dope shit: "the 12 years a slave... take that out-Roots..Amistad..so many niggas masked up you would think we at comiccon"and "look back at the pump like you forgot the number you got the gas on"
BUT he also said probably number 2 &3 of the worst lines he ever said-"leave the scene smoky like when a ninja leaves" and "escape to the neighbors house on a zipline"

So Idk, I just watch and enjoy-

the man also said "you died the same day as your nephew" which may be the most truly hard/meanest things ever said in a battle
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yeah anybody writing danny off as "one of the worst ever" is seeing him through an extremely limited view. He's literally one of the best ever but does also has some of the worst moments.
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got damn Danny Meyers wack as shit. Its like Geechi Gotti in Bizarro world
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So in this universe you are smarter than Danny. A guy that successfully does what you failed at doing.

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i didn't set out to become a top battler or even have a desire to pursue battling, ever. i didn't prepare for rev and the results showed. i've battled 5 times excluding freestyle battles where i've shredded fools. 4 of those were decent showings, 3 of which were 2v2s, and all 4 after rev. i didn't fail at battling, i just have no interest in partaking in this retard fest with "lyricists" who copy one another to be shitty at basic rhyming

what i care about is writing and i dn't even care about that anymore

i shit on danny at writing and my 16 year old self did as well, danny is terrible. lol @ ppl like you who still actively follow battling when guys like him and chilla are top tier "writers"

no clue why ur calling me a drug addict lmao

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Old 09-26-2019, 11:28 AM   #35
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yeah anybody writing danny off as "one of the worst ever" is seeing him through an extremely limited view. He's literally one of the best ever but does also has some of the worst moments.
LOL yeah, one of the best ever who is also sometimes one of the worst, makes sense

battling has been shitty for years now on the creative level and people who haven't been watching as long as others have a diff viewpoint on what is crazy or "top tier" performance wise

danny is fuckin terrible, but like whatever u like, even if it's heterosexual whales and houses made of liquid
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LOL yeah, one of the best ever who is also sometimes one of the worst, makes sense

battling has been shitty for years now on the creative level and people who haven't been watching as long as others have a diff viewpoint on what is crazy or "top tier" performance wise

danny is fuckin terrible, but like whatever u like, even if it's heterosexual whales and houses made of liquid
Eminem is a goat. Also one of the worst of all times. Lil wayne is a goat. Also one of the worst of all times. Hollow is a goat. Also one of thr worst of all times. Every great has some trash moments. The fact that you think battling has been doo doo for years shows you have a bias and also strange that you feel that way but still post on a battle forum years later.

You're picking bad lines out of a persons entire catalogue of work and calling that person trash. Danny has some moments that are absolutely golden - orcha straight was like 5 years ago. It's cool to have your opinion but like i said you have a very limited view if you don't at least recognize what makes people hold danny in a high regard as a writer.
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Old 09-26-2019, 12:55 PM   #37
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how about this: people who hold danny in high regard as a writer are not as good at me at writing so idgaf about their opinion

danny's highs are nowhere near as high as the others you listed and someone like em has bad times when he's what? addicted to drugs and ODing on shit? or 20+ years into a career? i barely post, rarely watch battles, and the active thread that keeps me posting lately is someone going through old GT battles. there's no bias, just an informed opinion from someone specific in their tastes.

you almost certainly have a more limited view on battling as a whole than i do fwiw. anyway, idc tho, like what you like, bruh

i've peeped danny vs diz and both were terrible from a writing perspective in that. and 5 years ago is still too recent to say trash like orchestrate.
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recognize what makes people hold danny in a high regard as a writer.
I think Myers is entertaining and he comes up with some hilarious shit but I think he's a pretty bad writer, definitely not a great one and I don't really recognise what makes people hold him in a high regard. I think that it's down to the fact that a lot of battle rap fans reduce good writing to punchlines and ignore all other aspects but I'd be interested to hear why you think he is a good or great writer?
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I think that it's down to the fact that a lot of battle rap fans reduce good writing to punchlines and ignore all other aspects but I'd be interested to hear why you think he is a good or great writer?
bingo although it should be "battle RAPPERS reduce writing to JUST punchlines and are oblivious to all other aspects." idgaf if the punch is even decent, when u have horrible setups or extremely basic rhyming, the shit sucks to me, because i was good enough not to do that shit when i was a literal child.

and danny isn't even fucking good at punchlines

a good writer would never have a fucking setup like "he had hope for his morgan" or do any of the 20 things that make that 4-bar absolutely atrocious. the flaws in his writing aren't things good writers do, ever (that's why it's hilariously easy for me to pick out pieces of dude's verses that i'm very confident they didn't write). so when you say he's had his bad moments, it cracks me up. in reality, your bar for good writing is just a lot lower than mine.
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his entire parallel universe shit is retarded and the execution is basically on some elementary schooler type shit every time anyway

ITS CRAZY, MY GIRL WAS A DOMINATRIX BUT I ACCIDENTALLY RAN HER OVER WITH A WHIP

WHOA, MY POPS NEVER USED DEODORANT, AND I LEFT HIM STINKING FROM THE HEAT UNDER ARMS

OMG, MY HOMIE DREAMED OF BEING AN ENTOMOLOGIST, BUT I FILLED HIM WITH SLUGS

danny meyers is like /r/iamverysmart mixed with /r/im15andthisisdeep mixed with /r/dreamsofbeinganentomologist
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