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Battles at the Bunker: October 29 85.29%
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Old 10-14-2016, 06:21 PM   #1
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What are you more excited for?

Battles at the Bunker - Oct 29th or Ganik vs Gully? Why?

I'd like to open a discourse on the seeming lack of support and overshadowing for the Bunker card promotion wise in which I am infinitely more stoked on.
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Bunker by far.

There's a couple cool battles on GVG but I'll put my money on Bunker producing better battles.

Bunker has given us stellar battles consistently, Toronto battles always seem to have some fuck shit going on lately.
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Def looking more forward to the bunker... Avocado/ J-Pro have a better feel for making matches that make more sense... Looking forward to the philly wave coming out west also... fresco vs QP will probably be a fun battle, that will turn out great, without either of them taking themselves too serious...
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I like the whole team thing and Team Gully has some better battlers than I expected, some as bad as I expected aswell though.

Bunker card in general is much better so far, GVG would have to pull some shit out to match it but either way E Ness vs B Magic is at Bunker so it automatically wins.
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I'd be interested to see the other side of the question tbh, if it exists.
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bunker. better matches, better crowd, better environment.

not to say the organik/gully card is bad... but c'mon.... magic vs ness, man.
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pretty one sided it seems, why do you guys think that the higher ups in kotd seem to be overshadowing the event?

Is it because he other event is sort of agenda driven?
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I'm more excited for this next UW event tbh. Shits all over both of those KOTD events and nobody here seem to be talkin bout it.
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While I am SUPER disappointed that Madflex won't get to battle Heartless because of whatever nonsense, I'm definitely more excited for the Bunker card. Although, I dont know, there may be some great matches announced for Gully vs Ganik. There are a few matches that could be on GvG that would make me more excited for that than the BATB event, but with what has been announced thus far, The Bunker is winning IMO.
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pretty one sided it seems, why do you guys think that the higher ups in kotd seem to be overshadowing the event?

Is it because he other event is sort of agenda driven?
so this is like maybe the 3rd or 4th time i seen you mention something like this. so please elaborate. how is any event, let alone the normal toronto Nov event from KOTD (used to be flatline) have an agenda? what would that "agenda" be? kinda lost as to how you could even insinuate that a company that has had a semi-regular event in Nov for years, now has an agenda by putting on an event in Nov lol.
(kotdvol 3.5 - nov 8 2008
kotd vol 4 - nov 22, 2008
globetrotters - nov 5 2009
flatline 1 - nov 5 2011
flatline 2 - nov 17th 2012
flatline 3 - nov 22nd 2014)

if there was any possible hidden agenda - it would be a party for most of KOTD's staff since 5 of them have birthdays in Nov (thats why the Nov toronto events exist in the first place)

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so this is like maybe the 3rd or 4th time i seen you mention something like this. so please elaborate. how is any event, let alone the normal toronto Nov event from KOTD (used to be flatline) have an agenda? what would that "agenda" be? kinda lost as to how you could even insinuate that a company that has had a semi-regular event in Nov for years, now has an agenda by putting on an event in Nov lol.
(kotdvol 3.5 - nov 8 2008
kotd vol 4 - nov 22, 2008
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flatline 2 - nov 17th 2012
flatline 3 - nov 22nd 2014)

if there was any possible hidden agenda - it would be a party for most of KOTD's staff since 5 of them have birthdays in Nov (thats why the Nov toronto events exist in the first place)
It's only the second time as far as I remember

I think you answered my question at the end, plus the fact that they have teams representing them.
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I mean you cannot act like the October event isn't being completely overshadowed right now promotion wise.
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well the Twilight style #teamganik vs #teamgully stuff is just a lot easier to promote concept-wise than the Bunker event. it doesn't really have a theme. i guess they could play up the Philly thing a bit more but that (a) probably isn't as exciting to most fans anyway and (b) you can't really make it a Philly vs. the West thing when your main event is E-Ness vs B Magic.
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I mean you cannot act like the October event isn't being completely overshadowed right now promotion wise.
Its not at all. We have a method where we post 3 bunker posts, 3 GvsG posts. Go look at our instagram and you will see the method we follow for promoting multiple events at once.

Talkback has a bunker tile, our main facebook page has a bunker tile. The pinned posts on all our pages are for the bunker, so in reality, the bunker is getting a lot more promo then GvsG but the GvsG announcements trick yall due to the discussion


Obviously someone like Gully will be promoting that harder while obviously somoene like avo will be prooting the bunker harder.

As far as KOTD as a entity, we have a strict schedule we follow.
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Its not at all. We have a method where we post 3 bunker posts, 3 GvsG posts. Go look at our instagram and you will see the method we follow for promoting multiple events at once.

yall prolly feel this way cause the announcements for GvG are being announced and discussed more at the current time.

Obviously someone like Gully will be promoting that harder while obviously somoene like avo will be prooting the bunker harder.

As far as KOTD as a entity, we have a strict schedule we follow.
Thanks for the response dog

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I think the thing is; is that because Gully represents the company as a whole from what I understand, pretty highly him posting only about the GvG event is odd...but it makes sense in some form. Not singling him out, just using him as an example.

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It's just tough because it seems like the concern for most things are these announcements, while there could be a last minute huge push for sales on ppv/tix at the bunker.

Good luck w both events though.
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Thanks for the response dog

Glad to see you responding on here again to stuff

I think the thing is; is that because Gully represents the company as a whole from what I understand, pretty highly him posting only about the GvG event is odd...but it makes sense in some form. Not singling him out, just using him as an example.

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It's just tough because it seems like the concern for most things are these announcements, while there could be a last minute huge push for sales on ppv/tix at the bunker.

Good luck w both events though.
Gully represents GZ. Thats his league. So obviously, an event where guys hes groomed getting big shots is gonna get his attention a little more. Not only that, we live in Toronto where were trying to sell tickets for an event. TheBunker is limited ticket access and more ppv based ( so yall should definitely support that )

He was mainly just focused on the detroit event he just threw on Oct 1st & has his own event on OCT.29 in Toronto holding a prove yourself tournament with some GZ battles. He also has events on Nov 12th, & Dec 9th.

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I don't see why KOTD doesn't relax on Gully vs Ganik for the next week and then push hard post Bunker. Pushing both at the same time is a way to dilute promotion for both events, as it puts the events against each other.
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I don't see why KOTD doesn't relax on Gully vs Ganik for the next week and then push hard post Bunker. Pushing both at the same time is a way to dilute promotion for both events, as it puts the events against each other.
because the full card needs to be out before oct 29th since its nov 12th.
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because the full card needs to be out before oct 29th since its nov 12th.
Or else what happens? You end up pushing hard during the final 2 weeks, the most important for pronotion?
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lets also not forget about 90-95% of talkback posts promoting GvG are from fans.
every video release from wd6(since bunker event was announced) - has a bunker ad on it - every time one has been posted from a KOTD page - it included a link to the bunker tickets and ppv. every extra content on fridays since bunker event has been announced has always had bunker links attached with it

so in reality the bunker is getting wayyyyy more promo than GvG - its just people are talking about GvG more because of the theme and the way the event is presented ("what side are you on?")
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I don't see why KOTD doesn't relax on Gully vs Ganik for the next week and then push hard post Bunker. Pushing both at the same time is a way to dilute promotion for both events, as it puts the events against each other.

All our events full line ups come out a month before the event. This gives those who plan to travel good ample time to know what they are paying and traveling for. Both thes events are in seperate countries and 2 different markets.
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Or else what happens? You end up pushing hard during the final 2 weeks, the most important for pronotion?
or you know, get the next announcements out of the way (like is planned) - then go hard on promo for the last week (which is the actual most important time for promo - along with a month out - two crucial times i can back up with numbers) and then switch back like is planned - you know do what we did for july bunker/wd as well as the april event and mass 2 or any two events that go back to back in months - where was the threads then?

It's the way we've been doing things for years, and its worked to get us to where it is now. i think were a little bit more 'seasoned" at this than yall. but thanks.

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All our events full line ups come out a month before the event. This gives those who plan to travel good ample time to know what they are paying and traveling for. Both thes events are in seperate countries and 2 different markets.
Reasonable point, but why not get it out before the final week of promotion? You guys make most of your money off of PPV, so I don't see them as different markets. There were probably less than a few hundred people I saw at World Dom. I do appreciate the concern for travel, as someone flying to events on a semi-regular basis.
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or you know, get the next announcements out of the way (like is planned) - then go hard on promo for the last week (which is the actual most important time for promo - along with a month out - two crucial times i can back up with numbers) and then switch back like is planned - you know do what we did for july bunker/wd as well as the april event and mass 2 or any two events that go back to back in months - where was the threads then?

Its the way we've been doing things for years, and its worked to get us to where it is now. i think were a little bit more 'seasoned" at this than yall. but thanks.
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Literally the least professional person in this, I've never treated you or anyone in your company with disrespect and have applauded all of your efforts to clarify stuff when asked here or elsewhere.

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or you know, get the next announcements out of the way (like is planned) - then go hard on promo for the last week (which is the actual most important time for promo - along with a month out - two crucial times i can back up with numbers) and then switch back like is planned - you know do what we did for july bunker/wd as well as the april event and mass 2 or any two events that go back to back in months - where was the threads then?

its the way we've been doing things for years, and its worked to get us to where it is now. i think were a little bit more 'seasoned" at this than yall. but thanks.
I mean, I'm glad you guys are pushing the final week. That's all I'm saying. And I don't know what you're talking about on the other thing...
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Why do you always have to take offense to shit and snap back?

Literally the least professional person in this, I've never treated you or anyone in your company with disrespect and have applauded all of your efforts to clarify stuff when asked here or elsewhere.

Always have to put people down...it's absurd.
posting about hidden agendas and personal benefits and inflated egos isnt disrespect? im sorry im must have confused it then with some weird type of praise

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all about personal benefits and agendas over there

this bunker card is one of my favorite cards in a good while besides maybe mass2, it's a shame
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Reasonable point, but why not get it out before the final week of promotion? You guys make most of your money off of PPV, so I don't see them as different markets. There were probably less than a few hundred people I saw at World Dom. I do appreciate the concern for travel, as someone flying to events on a semi-regular basis.
So u want us to not announce anything until the final week? Lol

..... Who would buy tickets to an inaugural event without knowing what they're paying for? Or allow people to make other plans for that weekend before we announce our event. No Offence man but ... Cmon lol.

Again, 2 different countries, 2 different cities, 2 different markets.

I think the other 38 events happening in Cali THAT week are more competition than an event in another country in another month.
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posting about hidden agendas and personal benefits and inflated egos isnt disrespect? im sorry im must have confused it then with some weird type of praise

And it was 'clarified' and I thanked the head of YOUR company for responding with full disclosure in a proper manner...?

You come in big dick swinging, because you are so 'seasoned', what a joke.

I've always given you the benefit of the doubt and if you think otherwise that's absurd.

Get off your high horse Troy.
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So u want us to not announce anything until the final week? Lol

..... Who would buy tickets to an inaugural event without knowing what they're paying for? Or allow people to make other plans for that weekend before we announce our event. No Offence man but ... Cmon lol.

Again, 2 different countries, 2 different cities, 2 different markets.

I think the other 38 events happening in Cali THAT week are more competition than an event in another country in another month.
I think you misread what I wrote. I meant, why not have all the GvG announcements out before the final bunker week of promotion?
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So u want us to not announce anything until the final week? Lol

..... Who would buy tickets to an inaugural event without knowing what they're paying for? Or allow people to make other plans for that weekend before we announce our event. No Offence man but ... Cmon lol.

Again, 2 different countries, 2 different cities, 2 different markets.

I think the other 38 events happening in Cali THAT week are more competition than an event in another country in another month.

Don't mind Seanzo, that fascist hair cut goes to his head once in a while...
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As someone who has been to a reasonable amount of KOTD events and comes from reasonably far, having things announced a fair bit in advance is pretty important.
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And it was 'clarified' and I thanked the head of YOUR company for responding with full disclosure in a proper manner...?

You come in big dick swinging, because you are so 'seasoned', what a joke.

I've always given you the benefit of the doubt and if you think otherwise that's absurd.

Get off your high horse Troy.
except that quote was from a different thread where nobody responded to you with anything - was just you taking a shot at me after i post i made
and if ganik telling you there is a 3 and 3 posting pattern on IG is your definition of full disclosure, im not sure what more to even say to you.

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