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Old 12-25-2017, 05:02 AM   #1
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Damn that was an easy Illmac win, on first watch i'd say a 3-0

EDIT: FUCK I was drunk when I watched this and clicked Iron on the poll by mistake! If the mods can change it to Illmac please do!
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Probably the best performance I’ve seen someone get 3-0d with. Illmac clearly won.
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Damn KOTD dropped that shit at midnight! Stay winning KOTD.
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Iron loses 3-0 for trying to get tough with ilmac for no reason but doing nothing when ars slapped his hat off
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Illmac with a crisp 3-0 no body battle was fire
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kinda sucks that whenever Illmac is on his A-game, his opponents aren't.

i predicted at least half of Iron's punchlines and he had nothing i can remember right now (except the "my son understands it already" rebuttle but i only remember that cause it was weird and terrible).

Illmac was super on-point though, especially the first was crazy. i think after this and JC he has really proven he deserves a top top tier opponent. set him up with Lux or rematch with Hollow.
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This was a fire battle. I'm really surprised most youtube comments when I clicked were Iron 2-1

Illmac won 1st by landslide and was verse of the battle.

Iron kept talking about him being small/and the saurus which is so played out by now

I like Illmaculate calling him out for recycling and using writtens in scribble jam

iron rebuttal tho "yeah i was innovator of that shit" no iron using writtens/recycling in scribble was corny and always will be
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lmfao "he pushed me too hard" i like iron but that was lame af, don't poke a dude and expect no reaction next time u poke greg he gonna throw him out a 4 story window onto a glass roof fuck up the way you talk and shit
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lmfao "he pushed me too hard" i like iron but that was lame af, don't poke a dude and expect no reaction next time u poke greg he gonna throw him out a 4 story window onto a glass roof fuck up the way you talk and shit
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That “stomp on em bass pedal” line was fire ah, that would’ve shook the building on a big stage

This might be my favorite illmac performance, ever
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ghost of christmas fagit visited Iron in the 1st

me and malathion making faces at one another through the screen throughout that whole bass pedal section - fucking great

I'm in the third, it's good but weird, this whole bitter guidance counsellor angle I'm not feeling

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On the PPV it looked like Illmac was kinda bullying Solomon with the push, but from this angle Illmac was smart. If he let Solomon grab his jacket and shake it, psychologically he was going to lose.

Fire battle though. Solomon was pretty much as good as good as he's been recently in the first two. I liked the midwife angle in the third, but it didn't really go anywhere.

Illmac was something else. He actually did what rappers did and broke down his opponent and wrote especially for him. I wasn't feeling Illmac's second so much (What will your son say about some random rap verse, who cares?!?), but he definitely got 1 and 3. The first 2 rounds are at least somewhat debatable though.
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Illmac's first verse is round of the year contender.
Angle is getting trumped rebuttal, personals, character break down, Jordan and base pedal schemes.

3-0 no body
Even if he pops scored.
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Illmac with a very crispy W, Solomon with some okay material, but some strange angles and threads that didn't really go anywhere
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Second time watching this and I'm skipping Iron verses. I was expecting so much more from him.

Too many cliches like Saurus and height angles really hurts his performance in my eyes.
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Illmaculate had a horrible gameplan for this battle. His first was good but he should have switched it up in the next two rounds. And he should have done more styling on Iron instead of "talking to" him.

Also, he explains all this stuff on the Watch battles but then it seems like he does them anyway, like when he needlessly inserted the word "honestly" just for the sake of rhyming, which is what he complains about with the word "just".

Critiquing only his rounds because that's all I care about. Not really an Iron fan.
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If Iron Solomon vs Illmaculate came out in 2008-2011 it probably would have been a battle I would have watched over and over again.

In 2017 it was tedious, like all battles with well-known veterans and I don't care to pick a winner. This battle was another history lesson with critical analysis of issues going back 10 years to the moment of transition from freestyle to written battles. They really dive into this material and open up the field to a rich discourse. *rolls eyes*

Other than that this became the critical breakdown of eachother's moral character that so many battles are now that many of the rappers are 30-something fathers. When they're not getting serious on the issues it's the boring multi-meaning wordplay that every single rapper does now, where every multiple meaning is so obvious and it makes me miss the days when Iron vs Illmac would have been 3 60 minute rounds multi-syllable short vs jewish nerd jokes.
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good post. i wish both guys had an agreement to just do generic battle shit so they didn't have to try and "expose" one another. illmac had more of that in here which made his verses fresher to me. i kinda hate the "IN YOUR LAST BATTLE" or "AGAINST XYZ YOU SAIIID.."

overall kind of a boring battle

i thought the shit about SO he gasps and then does a sigh of relief was funny. also iron saying greg is a super duper senior LOL
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You can tell Iron was happy to finally battle someone shorter than him. The height jokes didnt really hit for me though because Iron legit looks like 1 or 2 inches taller than Illmac
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If Iron Solomon vs Illmaculate came out in 2008-2011 it probably would have been a battle I would have watched over and over again.

In 2017 it was tedious, like all battles with well-known veterans and I don't care to pick a winner. This battle was another history lesson with critical analysis of issues going back 10 years to the moment of transition from freestyle to written battles. They really dive into this material and open up the field to a rich discourse. *rolls eyes*

Other than that this became the critical breakdown of eachother's moral character that so many battles are now that many of the rappers are 30-something fathers. When they're not getting serious on the issues it's the boring multi-meaning wordplay that every single rapper does now, where every multiple meaning is so obvious and it makes me miss the days when Iron vs Illmac would have been 3 60 minute rounds multi-syllable short vs jewish nerd jokes.
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If Iron Solomon vs Illmaculate came out in 2008-2011 it probably would have been a battle I would have watched over and over again.

In 2017 it was tedious, like all battles with well-known veterans and I don't care to pick a winner. This battle was another history lesson with critical analysis of issues going back 10 years to the moment of transition from freestyle to written battles. They really dive into this material and open up the field to a rich discourse. *rolls eyes*

Other than that this became the critical breakdown of eachother's moral character that so many battles are now that many of the rappers are 30-something fathers. When they're not getting serious on the issues it's the boring multi-meaning wordplay that every single rapper does now, where every multiple meaning is so obvious and it makes me miss the days when Iron vs Illmac would have been 3 60 minute rounds multi-syllable short vs jewish nerd jokes.
Damn! Well said, totally agree... IMO the S.O.N.S style of wordplay is the only wordplay that is fun to listen to.. You could still do that degree of wordplay and the crowd could ride along with it and still have time to relax and have fun

now there is so much wordplay layered together and pressure packed into every bar that the crowd looks constipated and quiet trying to focus all their neurons on decoding the wordplay that nobody has time to react and have fun anymore... Its such a dreary and depressing sight.. Such a stagnated and corrupted form of what we see in the beginning of the written era of battling

I've been saying it for years.. the unhealthy obsession with virtuoso levels of lyricism and wordplay is unhealthy for battle rap as a whole

I gotta give a shout out to @illipsis because I feel like he does a great amount of silly wordplay that is clever enough that you can forgive the silliness and just enjoy and react to it..
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Kinda confused about the above posts. What wordplay was so dense and complex here? As far as Illmac goes this was a fairly straightforward battle of his...
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EDIT: FUCK I was drunk when I watched this and clicked Iron on the poll by mistake! If the mods can change it to Illmac please do!
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So this is bringing to the forefront the fact that battle fans apparently want uncreative dick/racist/fat jokes and nothing of any actual substance. A Shame, but predictable.

Maybe stop trying to push battle rap into the mainstream if you're going to stick with that.
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that easter island line was fire...

also there's no way 90% of the people that cheered got that Nice and Smooth line.....



but jesus Illmac...this was brutal....that "when he see's the word so" thing was so slept on...crowd is really weird as usual.....

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also there's no way 90% of the people that cheered got that Nice and Smooth line.
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