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Old 12-13-2013, 12:56 AM   #1
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Cool Honest opinions on the John John da Don vs. Cortez Doc?

Whats going on battle rap nation. Im really new to this forum, but we want to provide the world with better docs and better visuals for the battle rap culture. We just did a doc for the URL JJDD vs Cortez battle. I just want honest feedback. We do this shit for the sport, we do this for yall.


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Old 12-13-2013, 12:57 AM   #2
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Well let's see....

bout to check this shit out.
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Hey, I did ask for honest opinions lmao Why do u call them bums tho? They're good dudes with bars & solid resumes, right? Who do u consider good?
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jjdd vs cortez ? please god no ........ ugh , these are dudes on the grind , they have no artistic integrity , its purely making checks and locking in as many battles as possble to get their scribblerZ .....

how about clips vs cortez ? conceited vs jjdd ? conceited vs dna ? conceited vs cortez ? i know some of these ppl have already battled but my main point is um , u have matched up "job" battlers , these ppl put bullshit together to get thru the day ....... jjdd is a yung cat to that "jobber " scene , but hes right there alongside conceited and clips and dna and cortez .......... and dbd ... arsonal ...... countless others ......

the only difference is , there are ppl like dbd that actually put in the time and effort , (his last few efforts have exposed holes in his matrix but still i hold his grind higher than cortez , dna, clips , etc )
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Alright man I gotta be honest, I'm ten minutes in and bored as fuck. You need to edit some of the filler out of this shit, cuz I really only care about what these dudes have to say about the battle and their approach and preparation leading up to it and not "funny" shit that their friends are doing. It took 6 and a half minutes for one of the people this shit is about to actually say something and neither of them have said anything of any consequence ten minutes in. splice in some interview footage or something, for real.
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wait so wtf is this ? is this a trailer ? what is this ? i seriously just saw its like 40 minutes long
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Alright man I gotta be honest, I'm ten minutes in and bored as fuck. You need to edit some of the filler out of this shit, cuz I really only care about what these dudes have to say about the battle and their approach and preparation leading up to it and not "funny" shit that their friends are doing. It took 6 and a half minutes for one of the people this shit is about to actually say something and neither of them have said anything of any consequence ten minutes in. splice in some interview footage or something, for real.
That's an ill perspective. The feel I was going for apparently isnt what the people wanna see. Less build up, more action. Bet.
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wait so wtf is this ? is this a trailer ? what is this ? i seriously just saw its like 40 minutes long
Yea, we definitely could've done without the trailer at the beginning. When I was in the editing room I wanted to make it look like a movie. You know how they have the previews before hand....except I forgot bs previews/trailers are the things everyone hates. I feel it
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jjdd vs cortez ? please god no ........ ugh , these are dudes on the grind , they have no artistic integrity , its purely making checks and locking in as many battles as possble to get their scribblerZ .....

how about clips vs cortez ? conceited vs jjdd ? conceited vs dna ? conceited vs cortez ? i know some of these ppl have already battled but my main point is um , u have matched up "job" battlers , these ppl put bullshit together to get thru the day ....... jjdd is a yung cat to that "jobber " scene , but hes right there alongside conceited and clips and dna and cortez .......... and dbd ... arsonal ...... countless others ......

the only difference is , there are ppl like dbd that actually put in the time and effort , (his last few efforts have exposed holes in his matrix but still i hold his grind higher than cortez , dna, clips , etc )
So taking numerous battles isn't seen as something admirable in your eyes, it's like selling out or compromising artistic credibility...dope. Is there anything to be said for someone who isn't afraid to step to a challenge if money's right? You know, like on so Pacquiao shit.
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It seemed way too long and nothing really happened.
What camera did you use? You have a red as your avatar on youtube but I don't think you shot on red.
Tons of the shots look way to under exposed. Maybe bring a light with you next time.
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i love the idea of folks making documentaries, but one thing for sure i can suggest off the back is to edit down the size of the video if your intention is to release it on youtube. Alot of interviews, blogs, and even other battle documentaries highlighting a battle don't have to be so long, and just adding more and more random people to give their opinion may mean less than adding some key interviews of people that are either in the field or have an opinion worth hearing. Getting fan-feedback is cool, but u can easily get carried away with the time length on some of these videos, and chances are it becomes less attractive to someone to watch a video that over a half hour long vs doing something else they can do for a half hour, like watching an actual battle, etc. I don't think the topic needs that much time dedicated to highlighting just one battle, i think u can highlight an entire event for that much time. my 2 cents.
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I like the music transitions etc

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why would you want to watch a 40 minute documentary to lead up to a 20 minute battle? I don't understand
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the first question that a video should be able to answer is "why is this being made"

I know they were eventually going to battle but there was no common theme or narrative going on that gave the documentary any sense of purpose
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Good look making this.

This site happens to generally hate the two guys this is about though so you might not get the kind of feedback you are looking for lol. Are you planning on doing a lot of these?
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ppl are inaudibly mumbling and your puttin subtitles to everything... at some point your jsut not doing a good job the subtitles cant cover your ass on everything

still dope but its gettin real unprofessional after 15 minutes worth of it
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This site happens to generally hate the two guys this is about though so you might not get the kind of feedback you are looking for lol. Are you planning on doing a lot of these?
Thats the plan. I never knew these two were hated like that lol These guys actually got me interested in the whole battle rap scene
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Thats the plan. I never knew these two were hated like that lol These guys actually got me interested in the whole battle rap scene
They aren't really hated.. just not fan favorites imo. I like em both.

People are just critical of what they spend their time watching. I appreciate your effort
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They aren't really hated.. just not fan favorites imo. I like em both.

People are just critical of what they spend their time watching. I appreciate your effort
pretty much this....i fuck with tez and john's battles...
i know john personally from the old GTATL days

but if i'm gonna watch an hr long doc about a battle....it needs to be a special battle....tez vs john just really aint that special...its neither one of their biggest battles to date...


if you did a doc on tez vs hollohan or john vs hitman i'd watch it...but tez and john aren't like super colorful/interesting people that keep you glued to the screen wondering what they're gonna say next...
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Honestly, I think you and whatever crew of fucking retards convinced your equally retarded ass to waste precious fucking film following two of the most boring ass, wack ass, waste-of-fucking-semen ass battle rappers in the game around the San Francisco of the fucking South as they introduce their equally wack ass clue of dickriders with no fucking future outside of being a fast food technician and waste valuable studio time making music so fucking terrible it makes you wanna rape a deaf bitch so your kids stand a 50/50 chance of not ever having to hear such godawfulness should be fucking shot for making this atrocity.

Never in the fucking history of the world has anyone been even remotely interested in following the fucking footsteps of some bitch ass kleptomaniac who looks like Alvin from The Chimpmunks raped Michael Smith from ESPN and some illegal fucking wetback who has about as much fucking personality as the fucking stick he churns his fucking butter with. Fucking jackass.
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Is this battle ever going to drop?
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should cut the time down - most people hate actual battles that long - they def wont like a non-battle being that much time

my advice would to be something similiar to what dj skee did with diz/canibus

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So taking numerous battles isn't seen as something admirable in your eyes, it's like selling out or compromising artistic credibility...dope. Is there anything to be said for someone who isn't afraid to step to a challenge if money's right? You know, like on so Pacquiao shit.
nooo its not selling out , but rappers such as clips / dna / conceited DO compromise their integrity by taking many battles , they DO spit blatantly horrible shit just to get thru a battle , and its not a "battle " to them

they dont even try to 3-0 rappers , they put in an afternoons worth of effort to 2-1 someone , and if they lose who cares ?? they are gonna battle someone next week and nothing changes (especially not their pay check )

my bad for coming @ u , i guess i was trying to make some kinda point when i made that 1rst post , but yea cortez / jjdd both fall into that category im speaking of , but i have to admit cortez has been better lately and looks like he puts in effort

this battle is probably not the BEST battle to do a doc on i guess was my main point ; two "jobbers " two guys who do this for a living ; i mean like this is cardboard vs cardboard the movie ; thats all

i fux with the idea , and i really do want to see more
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Good look making this.

This site happens to generally hate the two guys this is about though so you might not get the kind of feedback you are looking for lol. Are you planning on doing a lot of these?
This. Also people on this forum trend to be over exaggerated dicks.

Jesus could literally come back, battle, kill his opponent, raise him from the dead, then leave the building via floating into heaven... and some people here would be like "he needs to improve his performance" lol
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Honestly, I think you and whatever crew of fucking retards convinced your equally retarded ass to waste precious fucking film following two of the most boring ass, wack ass, waste-of-fucking-semen ass battle rappers in the game around the San Francisco of the fucking South as they introduce their equally wack ass clue of dickriders with no fucking future outside of being a fast food technician and waste valuable studio time making music so fucking terrible it makes you wanna rape a deaf bitch so your kids stand a 50/50 chance of not ever having to hear such godawfulness should be fucking shot for making this atrocity.

Never in the fucking history of the world has anyone been even remotely interested in following the fucking footsteps of some bitch ass kleptomaniac who looks like Alvin from The Chimpmunks raped Michael Smith from ESPN and some illegal fucking wetback who has about as much fucking personality as the fucking stick he churns his fucking butter with. Fucking jackass.
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Whats going on battle rap nation. Im really new to this forum, but we want to provide the world with better docs and better visuals for the battle rap culture. We just did a doc for the URL JJDD vs Cortez battle. I just want honest feedback. We do this shit for the sport, we do this for yall.

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These dudes both so generic man like there good writers I guess but shits so cookie cutter especially john john.
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So taking numerous battles isn't seen as something admirable in your eyes, it's like selling out or compromising artistic credibility...dope. Is there anything to be said for someone who isn't afraid to step to a challenge if money's right? You know, like on so Pacquiao shit.
It's not admirable, they get paid, and put in minimal effort in exchange. If they were employees they'd get fired, because they aren't really fulfilling their side of the bargain. Do you realize that no British battlers on Don't Flop even get paid a dime? Guys like Clips are lucky to get paid, and they're exploiting the scene's generosity, and clogging up the circuit with mediocre videos. At least Lux actually rewards his payers with classics, guys like Clips don't.
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