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Old 04-10-2014, 03:15 PM   #81
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the name won't be a problem, imo.

does anyone think of kotd as king of toronto?
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Now you're avoiding the point you were just trying to make about under-performance.

Calicoe was at the same level Rosenberg was at, battling dudes like Nuborn, Shotgun Suge and Rich Dolarz, but was given shots to keep moving up the ladder.

Rosenberg never really got those same opportunities because of his image. He's just as good though.

As for the "top tier", a lot of them don't belong.
Why was he given shots? Because he proved to be better than the Nuborns and Shotgun Suge. Rosenburg is not better than any of those names.

It's nothing to do with image. He's not good and not even close to being as good as Calicoe.
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Because he's big and black (same reason he got the battles you mentioned by the way).

Rosenberg beat QP and probably Bigg K.

You mentioned underperforming opponents though.

Calicoe beat the worst Math up until the point.

Calicoe got seriously outbarred by Heartless and possibly only won because Heartless looks very gay.

Calicoe only made the Lux battle debatable because Lux choked a whole round away.

So...
Lux was losing the 1st round and I personally think Lux lost the 2nd round. If Lux didn't have such a strong 3rd Lux would have been bodied. comparing Calicoe to Rosenburg is ridiculous.
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Lux was losing the 1st round and I personally think Lux lost the 2nd round. If Lux didn't have such a strong 3rd Lux would have been bodied. comparing Calicoe to Rosenburg is ridiculous.
You think Lux lost the 2nd round.

You prefer confident yelling over well thought out word play in a rap battle.
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if ur gonna be mad be mad i derailed the thread, not on some macho shit homeslice
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Come on it's Rosenburg the pitch was that you are lucky we are even offering you a chance to come KOTD for a battle. Between Rosenburg and KOTD who do you think is doing who the favor there

If they are paying him it's a waste of there money.


The fact he's battled in a bunch of little leagues that get him like 20,000 views.

Here's a battle that will do similar numbers aswell as get him to a new audience
Rosenberg just headlined a URL Event and he's lucky to get a chance to battle in KOTD?
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Rosenberg just headlined a URL Event and he's lucky to get a chance to battle in KOTD?
Yes Rosenburg is lucky to get a battle in KOTD. Rosenburg was the worst of his PG class and is maybe mid tier. THe fact that one of the most popular leagues in the world are interested in him especially the fact it's the league that controls a different audience than he's exposed too. The fact he gets to travel to a new country, and make connections with KOTD. Yes he's lucky.

It's not like hes a name that KOTD needs

Headlining a URL event doesn't automatically make you above KOTD
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Yes Rosenburg is lucky to get a battle in KOTD. Rosenburg was the worst of his PG class and is maybe mid tier. THe fact that one of the most popular leagues in the world are interested in him especially the fact it's the league that controls a different audience than he's exposed too. The fact he gets to travel to a new country, and make connections with KOTD. Yes he's lucky.

It's not like hes a name that KOTD needs

Headlining a URL event doesn't automatically make you above KOTD
Yes, it definitely does.
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You think Lux lost the 2nd round.

You prefer confident yelling over well thought out word play in a rap battle.
I do Lux didn't say anything that round. And Calicoe is more than just confidant yelling
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Yes, it definitely does.
Then you overrate performing on URL to me. It does not because KOTD appeals to a different audience then URL. So performing on URL doesn't say that you have the buzz to perform at KOTD especially when you don't get views. '

You can tell how you overrate URL rappers by the nonsensical 3-0 idea of Rosenburg.
1. Rosenburg has never 3-0'd anyone in his life
2. Skelly has battled and beaten allot better

You probobly part of the crowd who thought Rosenburg had a chance against Real Deal aswell.
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Then you overrate performing on URL to me. It does not because KOTD appeals to a different audience then URL. So performing on URL doesn't say that you have the buzz to perform at KOTD especially when you don't get views. '

You can tell how you overrate URL rappers by the nonsensical 3-0 idea of Rosenburg.
1. Rosenburg has never 3-0'd anyone in his life
2. Skelly has battled and beaten allot better

You probobly part of the crowd who thought Rosenburg had a chance against Real Deal aswell.
Not really, people who watch KOTD battles watch URL battles too, and Raw gets more views than lke 95% of KOTD battlers. Rosenberg has 3-0'd battlers that are on Skelly's level before, and wouldn't have been surprised if Raw beat Real Deal.
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You should just change the name from GZ to something else, especially if GZ doesn't mean anything now.

It doesn't make much sense to keep the connection anyway if you're trying to re-brand, unless you make it mean something different.

Maybe even drop the KOTD part too and see what happens. Everybody will still know the leagues are affiliated, but the former Ground Zero can have a different feel to it with smaller crowds and alternative match ups like this one.

Ground Zero to Cloud Nine?
you know, after reading some of the comments and reasons, I'm inclined to think you are right. i'll def bring it up to the rest of the staff
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have you guys thought about making GZ the one-off/pit battle league and KOTD the stage battle league?

would give the two leagues a clear distinction that isn't necessarily defined by quality but instead by setting/style.

if this were the case I would exclusively battle for GZ
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have you guys thought about making GZ the one-off/pit battle league and KOTD the stage battle league?



would give the two leagues a clear distinction that isn't necessarily defined by quality but instead by setting/style.



if this were the case I would exclusively battle for GZ

Interesting idea. I myself like the pit better as well


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have you guys thought about making GZ the one-off/pit battle league and KOTD the stage battle league?

would give the two leagues a clear distinction that isn't necessarily defined by quality but instead by setting/style.

if this were the case I would exclusively battle for GZ
pretty sure in Toronto - GZ will always remain "pit-style" unless the crowd is too big to force us to use a stage because of no room on the floor.

I've also talked to Gully about bringing back judging for the majority of the GZ battles, he likes the idea
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I've also talked to Gully about bringing back judging for the majority of the GZ battles, he likes the idea
why? i thought battling was past that phase tbh.
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This, tbh. I used to watch way more GZ battles when they were on the main channel.
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the whole card is sick. our best GZ event to date in Toronto
We're also looking to "re-brand" GZ as more of an independent league. No more battle in GZ looking to get to the "main page".
Although some GZ battlers will get battles on bigger events and make it to the "main page", there wont be anymore "if this battle is good it should make the main page", or "i got a main page battle, im not on GZ anymore"
And obviously when looking at GZ guys for bigger events, we will be looking at the ones who help us in this transition phase first.
Great idea. I've been saying that this is the next logical step KOTD should take with GZ.

I agree with others that if GZ is being re-branded, changing the name is the best way to get rid of the stigma and truly start over. I think fans can embrace the idea of a mid/lower tier league since many smaller leagues already have the same format. As long as there are cards people are interested in, it doesn't matter about tiers or names.
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Not really, people who watch KOTD battles watch URL battles too, and Raw gets more views than lke 95% of KOTD battlers. Rosenberg has 3-0'd battlers that are on Skelly's level before, and wouldn't have been surprised if Raw beat Real Deal.
Who has Raw 3-0'd on Skelly level If raw does his best and Skelly does his best Skelly will wash him. Skelly is on a higher level than Raw.

Raw has a couple of big battles on the URL platform but he doesn't get more views than most.


And you are incorrect many KOTD fans are not URL fans. Even the few who might watch some of the bigger battles allot aint checking for midtier dudes like Raw It will bring him to a new fan base that probobly hasn't checked for him to much
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Who has Raw 3-0'd on Skelly level If raw does his best and Skelly does his best Skelly will wash him. Skelly is on a higher level than Raw.

Raw has a couple of big battles on the URL platform but he doesn't get more views than most.


And you are incorrect many KOTD fans are not URL fans. Even the few who might watch some of the bigger battles allot aint checking for midtier dudes like Raw It will bring him to a new fan base that probobly hasn't checked for him to much
Skelly is trash tbh, Raw on an off day would 3-0 him, Raw averages around 300,000 views a battle, how many KOTD battlers are doing that? I'd bet the large majority of KOTD fans watch URL as well.
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Where does Raw average 300, 000 per video. Stop making up facts
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I would say KOTD fans will watch some URL battles But I would doubt that allot of them are really into it enough to be checking Rosenburg Raw.

So this guy has been on the bigger platform of URL and the views don't match this big view getting.

Plus the average is pushed by a couple battles that got allot of views but allot of his battles getting like 40, 000 or so


Raw will not be Skelly. You probobly dumb enough to thin Raw had a chance against Real Deal didn't you

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I would say KOTD fans will watch some URL battles But I would doubt that allot of them are really into it enough to be checking Rosenburg Raw.

So this guy has been on the bigger platform of URL and the views don't match this big view getting.

Plus the average is pushed by a couple battles that got allot of views but allot of his battles getting like 40, 000 or so


Raw will not be Skelly. You probobly dumb enough to thin Raw had a chance against Real Deal didn't you
All his URL battles got over 300,000, sure his battles in no name leagues are low, but so are everybody else's. Skelly is trash, he will get bodied easily and it wouldn't have surprised me if he beat Real Deal either.
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All his URL battles got over 300,000, sure his battles in no name leagues are low, but so are everybody else's. Skelly is trash, he will get bodied easily and it wouldn't have surprised me if he beat Real Deal either.
The fact that it wouldn't suprise you if he beat Real Deal shows how horrible you are in judgement as the two are nowhere near the same level of talent. Real Deal is leaps and beyond better than Raw and if you can't recognize that, then you have an issue recognizing talent.

That mentality totally explains why you think he would beat Skelly.


ROsenburg got 36,000 on GT page in a battle that was released when GT still got views. Stop pretending like he getting more views than anyone
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The fact that it wouldn't suprise you if he beat Real Deal shows how horrible you are in judgement as the two are nowhere near the same level of talent. Real Deal is leaps and beyond better than Raw and if you can't recognize that, then you have an issue recognizing talent.

That mentality totally explains why you think he would beat Skelly.


ROsenburg got 36,000 on GT page in a battle that was released when GT still got views. Stop pretending like he getting more views than anyone
The fact that you think Skelly is anything but terrible shows your horrible judge of talent. That battle was a Draft League battle, that while released on GT page, wasn't part of a GT event. Pretty sure it's the highest viewed Draft League battle and it's against Renegade who nobody's heard of. In his battles against decent names, Rosenberg's lowest views battle is over 90,000 against Swave on Rare Breed Ent and is only a couple of a months old, will definitely crack 100,000 soon.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-E0g38N_Pk

under 60,000 views for years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yo8RKjqDRI
under 30,000


He gets views when he has a bigger opponent and bigger platform. He gets no views when he's the bigger name.

Again you can say that about Skelly but many disagree with you. You think Skelly not good but his resume disagrees with you.

You have also thought Rosenburg could compete with Real Deal which has been proven fault. Either you overrate Rosenburg in your assessments or you underrate any non URL rapper
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-E0g38N_Pk

under 60,000 views for years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yo8RKjqDRI
under 30,000


He gets views when he has a bigger opponent and bigger platform. He gets no views when he's the bigger name.

Again you can say that about Skelly but many disagree with you. You think Skelly not good but his resume disagrees with you.

You have also thought Rosenburg could compete with Real Deal which has been proven fault. Either you overrate Rosenburg in your assessments or you underrate any non URL rapper
Well, the poll show more people think Raw will win and the Real Deal battle hasn't even dropped, so ' can't judge it until I see it.
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Smelly coo , but Raw gonna mop dude
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think we might actually change the name of the league as well. thanks to you guys and the comments/suggestions in here
Good idea.

I'm curious to see what you come up with now.
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