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Old 04-14-2017, 01:57 PM   #1
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One thing KOTD needs to do to make Blackout a success

...start the god damned event earlier. And if that's not possible, have the title match earlier.

KOTD in Toronto has unfortunately made the same mistake event after event for the past few years, and that's holding their events past the time where people are sober enough to enjoy battles. People who're at events for 6-7 hours (typical KOTD events are from 8pm-3am) typically drink 1-2 drinks per hour, and by the time midnight rolls around are tipsy, getting tired, distracted and impatient after watching so many battles. Hell, I was so drunk by the 230 end time of Dizaster vs Pat Stay at Blackout 4 that I thought Diz won and didn't even notice him pull his phone out.

Honestly, KOTD events are pretty boring in Toronto as a result of their length in start time. Last World Dom I left for hours to go do other things 'cause I was bored of waiting around. A lot of people seemed to feel the same, as Toronto crowds shrink drastically year after year. The events just aren't that fun. I mean, haven't the last 3 title matches sucked as a result? Rone vs Caustic felt dead because there was little reaction, same with Illmac Rone, Pat Illmac. Fans were bored.

So...if Blackout ends at a ridiculous time, I predict it'll suck. If it starts at 6pm, I'm sure it'll be decent.
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Yup, I actually agree with this.

I was so drunk/tired by the time Diz was done his first round vs solomon, that I just left.

I also ended up leaving before Caustic vs Rone. No one wants to stand around for 8 hours with massive breaks between battles.

GvG was perfect, because it was only 6 battles and it moved relatively quickly. Lets hope for the same tonight.
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Nah son, with the potential for 4-5 battles out of like 30 being good there's no way to save this basura. Aside from announcing it as a joke lineup and bringing out good battlerap. Don't tell me about the weird kid making bongos being the next great white hope.
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Line up is fire. You're tripping.
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i think the whole 2-day event hurts this as well. GvG and bunker events went so well. I missed the last three battles each day at WD6 because it was getting so late and they had upwards of 30 minute breaks between battles. I couldn't imagine what that would be like live in the venue.

i love battle rap but i can't do 8 hours a day two days straight.
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Can't believe anyone would go for the whole event, lol. I would genuinely skip the first half, chill out at home, get some drinks. Then about halfway through roll up, safe in the knowledge that you probably missed absolutely nothing. This ain't NOME...
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I think fire is an exaggeration. It's okay, but this is supposed to be KOTD's premier event. Quantity over quality. It is way worse than the NOME lineup. Not enough card sellers
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What exactly is fire about this lineup? Aside from the few top billed names, I'm lost.

Not even hating, I'm dead ass curious about this.
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can't believe anyone would go for the whole event, lol. I would genuinely skip the first half, chill out at home, get some drinks. Then about halfway through roll up, safe in the knowledge that you probably missed absolutely nothing. This ain't nome...
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...start the god damned event earlier. And if that's not possible, have the title match earlier.

KOTD in Toronto has unfortunately made the same mistake event after event for the past few years, and that's holding their events past the time where people are sober enough to enjoy battles. People who're at events for 6-7 hours (typical KOTD events are from 8pm-3am) typically drink 1-2 drinks per hour, and by the time midnight rolls around are tipsy, getting tired, distracted and impatient after watching so many battles. Hell, I was so drunk by the 230 end time of Dizaster vs Pat Stay at Blackout 4 that I thought Diz won and didn't even notice him pull his phone out.

Honestly, KOTD events are pretty boring in Toronto as a result of their length in start time. Last World Dom I left for hours to go do other things 'cause I was bored of waiting around. A lot of people seemed to feel the same, as Toronto crowds shrink drastically year after year. The events just aren't that fun. I mean, haven't the last 3 title matches sucked as a result? Rone vs Caustic felt dead because there was little reaction, same with Illmac Rone, Pat Illmac. Fans were bored.

So...if Blackout ends at a ridiculous time, I predict it'll suck. If it starts at 6pm, I'm sure it'll be decent.
u remember me making a thread asking why this is and king flys response?? they do it on purpose lol and they said everybody does it :S
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Can't believe anyone would go for the whole event, lol. I would genuinely skip the first half, chill out at home, get some drinks. Then about halfway through roll up, safe in the knowledge that you probably missed absolutely nothing. This ain't NOME...
Yeah, but even then it's still about midnight before anything good. I'm getting old; I need something to motivate me to be up until 3am.
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op reads like a math problem.

If Organik is on a train from Toronto traveling at 50 mph and has 3 drinks in one hour what are the chances that Rone will 3-0 head ice??
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op reads like a math problem.

If Organik is on a train from Toronto traveling at 50 mph and has 3 drinks in one hour what are the chances that Rone will 3-0 head ice??
Maybe you think things read like Math problems because you're slow.
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Having gone to multiple Bunker events that start early in the day, and end relatively early in the evening, I'd be inclined to agree. 8pm as a time for the doors opening, and not finishing until 2am or so is a quick way to have the crowd dead by the end of the night. Why do the big Toronto events start so late anyways?
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I think the card is good as the battlers they have are pretty known for bringing fire performances. It's not the biggest names on the card.
I think there's potential to be great matchups out of the card


THe time def needs to change. I've never understood why battles have so many breaks that push the event where it's too late. Especially when they are already starting late
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The last Van event was the best I've ever been to as far as time management goes, Sparka and Willie have been stepping that aspect up big time. Doors were at 5, though they were upfront about the battles starting at 6. Started a little after 6 just because they were waiting to get a crowd around the ring, but did battles in 2 or 3 battle clusters and wound up finishing the main event before 9 (which still included reasonable length smoke breaks and battlers going over agreed upon time limits in classic sneaky battler fashion).

Think that's a model that can definitely be adopted elsewhere, just start your event early evening (even if it started at 7 instead, 7-10/10:30>>>9-3), do battles in groups of 2 or 3, limit smoke breaks to a hard 15, and it's less of an undertaking to get people out by a reasonable hour (where they can then do an afterparty or what have you for people not prematurely elderly like me)
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in toronto this is the norm since its inception!!
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I just don't post all day like some of you nerds.
So you're saying you have no excuse to be this stupid.

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What they need to do is screen the fucking crowd.

Like, if you're rocking a fubu sweater or your paco jeans are 3 sizes to big it's an automatic non entry.
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The last Van event was the best I've ever been to as far as time management goes, Sparka and Willie have been stepping that aspect up big time. Doors were at 5, though they were upfront about the battles starting at 6. Started a little after 6 just because they were waiting to get a crowd around the ring, but did battles in 2 or 3 battle clusters and wound up finishing the main event before 9 (which still included reasonable length smoke breaks and battlers going over agreed upon time limits in classic sneaky battler fashion).

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This. I was thoroughly impressed with how smoothly the event ran.
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Alot of you guys sound like bitches

We have a battle event today and all yall crying about it already

Grow some balls crybabies

Cry after if you didnt like it.
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Alot of you guys sound like bitches

We have a battle event today and all yall crying about it already

Grow some balls crybabies

Cry after if you didnt like it.
if i could control when i cry don't you think i fucking would

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Alot of you guys sound like bitches

We have a battle event today and all yall crying about it already

Grow some balls crybabies

Cry after if you didnt like it.
i would control my crying if i was able to.

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Blackout could be decent. Tear it up if its shit after ill help you guys.

It says 9-930 start now.

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Old 04-15-2017, 04:57 AM   #36
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They need to go back to how Toronto events used to be. Shit like World Dom 1 was during the day. Started around 3 , ended about 930-10. Perfect times.

I also don't understand the whole thing about booking this event on Easter weekend. I take go transit into the city to events so I don't have to worry about driving and can have a few drinks. That shit doesn't run on Good Friday. I'm sure lots of people are with their families too. Just a complete fail on the booking this around
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Old 04-15-2017, 03:29 PM   #37
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They should host it in a different city each year.

the Easter thing wasn't on purpose.
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I agree with everything in the OP. The title matches should be the most hyped of the event and the crowd has been consistently dead for the last string of them.

It's not a good look when it seems like nobody is excited for the title match at your marquee event.
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