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Old 09-06-2020, 12:51 PM   #1
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SMX predictions

K-Shine vs. Chess
Reed Dollaz vs. Rum Nitty
B Dot vs. T-Top
Geechi Gotti vs. Charlie Clips
Aye Verb vs. Calicoe
Holmzie Da God vs. Bill Collector in the Ultimate Madness 2 finals

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geechi vs charlie clips: i really dont know what to expect from charlie clips. will he be rusty or will he have more in his clip? i expect geechi to get 2/3 rounds due to his consistency. geechi 2-1.


B dot vs t-top: Now THIS should also be a great battle. It's tough to call because i think while b dot is the better rapper, t top may take better angles. but i guess better rapping is more important. b dot 2-1.

K shine vs chess: I think this is k shine's battle to lose. even tho there isnt much of a crowd, i see k shine, the vet, getting through his material much better and he will be more refined ALL THREE ROUNDS.
K shine 3-0.

Reed dollaz vs rum nitty: i love what reed has done for battle rap and he's a legend frfr. but nitty is just on another level. rum nitty 3-0.


Holmzie the god vs bill collector: I want BC to win because i find him entertaining but tbh holmzie is on a mission and takes great angles. I think it's his to lose. Holmzie 2-1.




Initially, i wasnt thinking and thought calicoe would beat aye verb in front of a crowd but of course the pandemic is still going on so we'll have a small room with a tiny crowd. This means the better rapper will win.

Calicoe is a great rapper but imo he's not on verb's level. Verb 2-1 in a classic.
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Old 09-06-2020, 03:40 PM   #2
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K-Shine vs. Chess
-K-Shine 3-0. Chess is still an ameteur

Reed Dollaz vs. Rum Nitty
-Rum Nitty 3-0. Reed Dollaz is only here for nostalgia

B Dot vs. T-Top
-T Top 3-0 because he will fall on B- Dot

Geechi Gotti vs. Charlie Clips
Clips 3-0 because Geechi stuck up for Avo

Aye Verb vs. Calicoe
This should be the best battle of the night.
Verb 2-1

Holmzie Da God vs. Bill Collector
Never watched Holmzie Da God but Bill is getting pushed.
Bill 3-0
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Old 09-07-2020, 01:04 AM   #3
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These seem pretty easy to me honestly:

K-Shine vs. Chess
Borderline bodybag for K-shine just on experience.

Reed Dollaz vs. Rum Nitty
Could be interesting. I have Rum, but it should be pretty even.

Geechi Gotti vs. Charlie Clips
The only one I am undecided about. Clips has been gone for so long that he could return with a Daylyt performance or a super rusty one. Gonna edge Clips just because Geechi sticking up for Avo is a lot of material to work with.

Aye Verb vs. Calicoe
Verb got this as Calicoe's advantages won't work so well in the small room.

Holmzie Da God vs. Bill Collector
Bill Collector should take this pretty clearly IMO.
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Old 09-07-2020, 01:12 AM   #4
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These seem pretty easy to me honestly:

K-Shine vs. Chess
Borderline bodybag for K-shine just on experience.

Reed Dollaz vs. Rum Nitty
Could be interesting. I have Rum, but it should be pretty even.

Geechi Gotti vs. Charlie Clips
The only one I am undecided about. Clips has been gone for so long that he could return with a Daylyt performance or a super rusty one. Gonna edge Clips just because Geechi sticking up for Avo is a lot of material to work with.

Aye Verb vs. Calicoe
Verb got this as Calicoe's advantages won't work so well in the small room.

Holmzie Da God vs. Bill Collector
Bill Collector should take this pretty clearly IMO.
B-Dot to T-Top?
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I got Bill beating Holmzie 2-1, I think Holmzie's been on a pretty good run in this UM2 tournament, but I think Bill will be too much. I got Verb beating Calicoe 2-1 by default, outside of his Ill Will battle, I think Cal's only really been good recently for 1 round per battle, and I think Verb will do enough to take the battle. I got Geechi beating Clips, Clips had a good 2019 but was kinda lackluster IMO against JC and K-Shine earlier this year, and I feel like Geechi normally does enough to either win a battle or in the very least make it debatable enough to where he doesn't really lose.

I got Nitty 2-1 against Reed in my sleeper pick for SMX. I know expectations are really low from fans, but I'm getting Nitty/Iron vibes from it the more I think about it, and that ended up being one of the best battles of all time after sounding weird on paper. I got T-Top beating B Dot pretty clearly, B Dot's pretty effective with angles, but T-Top is a true tactician when he's in his bag, and I think he'll find some fresh approaches to older angles with B Dot. Plus, his 2nd against Arsonal is a precedent for the kind of counter-writing I think T-Top will do to take away the effectiveness of B Dot's angles.

Finally, I got K-Shine clearly beating Chess. This is probably the match I'm looking forward to the least, I'm not really a fan of either battler to begin with, but Chess has been pretty terrible in his past couple of battles and I hope he cares about this battle. Otherwise, Shine will just be punching back to back energetically.
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B-Dot to T-Top?
Missed that one. I have the opposite. T Top with the 2:1
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what have you guys seen from reed that makes you think he will be THAT good?

to me, this looks like an easy 3 piece for nitty.
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what have you guys seen from reed that makes you think he will be THAT good?

to me, this looks like an easy 3 piece for nitty.
iirc correct, surf dropped the ball against him defacto making reed look good
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Geechi vs clips is gonna be terrible no winner

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K-Shine vs. Chess

Chess 2-1 but don't really care

Reed Dollaz vs. Rum Nitty

Nitty 30

B Dot vs. T-Top

B Dot 30

Geechi Gotti vs. Charlie Clips

geechi 30

Aye Verb vs. Calicoe

Cal gonna landslide the first and probably lose the next two
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iirc correct, surf dropped the ball against him defacto making reed look good
Yeah, I gave Surf the 1st, and Reed the 2nd and 3rd. Surf was just OK-ish, and Reed had a few lines that stood out enough for me to give him the win like the "It ain't in the car no more" bar or whatever. I do think Reed absolutely annihilated Rex at SM7 though, and I think without a crowd, you'll see Reed's delivery be enhanced.
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Yeah, I gave Surf the 1st, and Reed the 2nd and 3rd. Surf was just OK-ish, and Reed had a few lines that stood out enough for me to give him the win like the "It ain't in the car no more" bar or whatever. I do think Reed absolutely annihilated Rex at SM7 though, and I think without a crowd, you'll see Reed's delivery be enhanced.
Can we agree that after Clips zipped up Rex, a victory against him hasn't meant as much? That said, I don't remember Rex vs Reed clearly, and to be fair Rex has shown up at least once post-Clips ie vs Bill Collector. In other words, was Rex "trying" vs Reed?
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Can we agree that after Clips zipped up Rex, a victory against him hasn't meant as much? That said, I don't remember Rex vs Reed clearly, and to be fair Rex has shown up at least once post-Clips ie vs Bill Collector. In other words, was Rex "trying" vs Reed?
With that particular battle, there was some back story for it considering that they previously battled off camera a long time ago, and I think it was the last major match fans wanted to see from Rex (I mean, it was a co-headlining battle for SM7 alongside Hitman/Roc). That said, especially with stuff like that Meek Mill bit Reed had at one point in the battle, I think I got that higher than like his Chess performance as far as what I think is Reed's best modern era performance in a battle.
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K-Shine vs. Chess
K-Shine 3-0 unless Chess can come up w/a round like his first vs tay roc in which case 2-1 still Shine


Reed Dollaz vs. Rum Nitty
Rum Nitty 2-1 or 3-0 but I wouldn't be surprised if Reed Dollaz does good enough to make this enjoyable. I thought he was great vs Surf.

B Dot vs. T-Top
T-Top 2-1 probably. B Dot could win this but T-Top is generally more consistent with both angles and punches while B-Dot kinda relies on a perfectly executed angle

Geechi Gotti vs. Charlie Clips
Geechi should win this 2-1

Aye Verb vs. Calicoe
Verb 2-1 hopefully Calicoe has more than a single good round

Holmzie Da God vs. Bill Collector
Bill 2-1
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Can we agree that after Clips zipped up Rex, a victory against him hasn't meant as much? That said, I don't remember Rex vs Reed clearly, and to be fair Rex has shown up at least once post-Clips ie vs Bill Collector. In other words, was Rex "trying" vs Reed?
You still have to deliver though. Plenty of guys have come up against Rex and delivered trash, making the battle unwatchable. The victory doesn't count for anything as LilG could probably have a debatable with Rex at this point, but having a good performance and getting the W still counts
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You still have to deliver though. Plenty of guys have come up against Rex and delivered yeah, laying the battle unwatchable. The victory doesn't count for anything as LilG could probably have a debatable with Rex at this point, but having a good performance and getting the W still counts
Fair point, we can't hold Reed responsible if Rex didn't perform well. We could say he made a bad move accepting a battle with Rex, but in their case there was history - so I can see why that battle made sense. All that being said, I'm not excited for a Reed battle. But now that I've posted about him a few times the past few days.. I hope he proves me wrong
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Cal’s dope but how do you think the battle will go? If it were a big room I’d give cal the edge. But I don’t think his powers are the same in the small room. Cal’s charisma is definitely an advantage but the technical skill for verb, I THINK, will be too much for cal.
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Cal’s dope but how do you think the battle will go?
I’m not much of a Verb believer, he usually says a lot of nothing and corny stuff. Calicoe’s a wizard, I think he raps cooler and can out-real Verb easily. I’ve been wanting to see this battle as “king of the midwest” for years.
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