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Old 03-17-2017, 10:59 PM   #1
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Soul got outswagged by Real Deal, lol. Definitely his writing is top ten, but delivery, swag, character etc is DF Extra level.

Although if you have to be good at only one thing, writing complex bars would be the one thing you'd want...
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Soul got outswagged by Real Deal, lol. Definitely his writing is top ten, but delivery, swag, character etc is DF Extra level.

Although if you have to be good at only one thing, writing complex bars would be the one thing you'd want...
Why are you suggesting that Real Deal doesn't have swag?
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Mmm true. Different than a lot of other battlers with valid claims on top 5 though, and doesn't match up well with many of them, which is why it's easy to dismiss him as top 5,especially if you're already disinclined to enjoy what he does.
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Mmm true. Different than a lot of other battlers with valid claims on top 5 though, and doesn't match up well with many of them, which is why it's easy to dismiss him as top 5,especially if you're already disinclined to enjoy what he does.
I've said this before, you vs Soul would be the ultimate tv show reference battle.

Soul is definitely in my top 5, but I understand why some people don't like him. Even at his level, he's still evolving and I noticed that his performance against Real Deal showcased a few things about his delivery that he's tweeked. Plus he's got a lot of underrated battles (vs Sketch & Pigsty off the top of my head) His material for Raptor was pretty much flawless, and people try to discredit his status as DF Champ, but I feel like he deserves to be there. And I don't see him losing the title any time soon tbh.
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unpopular opinion, but i actually think soul is a great rapper. outside of his pretty average flow, he has everything else going for him. he's a comfy performer and knows how to deliver and time his lines to give you that screwface. not to mention that he is somehow able to pull off an aggressive style without looking like an idiot.

definitely in my current top 10 and might slip into a more objective top 10 as well.
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Why are you suggesting that Real Deal doesn't have swag?
Character sure, but swag, not really.

Could you imagine if Soul took on someone with lots of swag and character, like Fresco? I think it would look really bad for him.
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top 5 seems like pushing it due to the point illipsis made about his style not matching up with a lot of the traditional top 5 contenders

definitely one of the best, though, and I have him hovering somewhere between #10 and #15 depending on what's going on in battle rap at any given moment

for him to get into a solid top 10, or even a top 5, i feel like he'd have to go up against a solid top 10 contender and at least have a claim at winning

soul just arguably lost to real deal, in a great battle, sure... but real deal is in NOBODY'S top 10, and its things like that battle that put pressure on anyone making threads like this to really explain theirselves

soul was on the right track taking on the holy trinity (bender/pesci/osa), and a couple other matches he could take that would make his claim to fame better would be like... fresco, illmac, chilla (in a 1v1), tsu surf (not that he'd ever battle soul), and jc
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I really feel soul won that battle. But it was a fantastic battle either way
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I really feel soul won that battle. But it was a fantastic battle either way
i feel you, thats why i said arguably

its a very debatable and a very fantastic battle-- but it does prove a point. if your top 5-10 arent people you think can clearly beat real deal, then you're lying to me about who you have in your top 5-10

idk man, soul's almost there but he's hit like a glass ceiling right before really being in that top 5 category imo
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Soul got outswagged by Real Deal, lol. Definitely his writing is top ten, but delivery, swag, character etc is DF Extra level.

Although if you have to be good at only one thing, writing complex bars would be the one thing you'd want...
Gonna need your list of DF battlers with swag now (if you include Shox you live in the countryside)
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DF doesn't really do swaggy rappers. Tony D is probably the closest thing to swag, but not really. Not sure why you are asking though as I honestly I don't watch most of their rappers outside of Shuffarlo, Tone, Shox, Dialect and Raptor.

If you want to talk character though, most of the roster has more character than Soul. Guy is a personality-free zone!
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DF doesn't really do swaggy rappers. Tony D is probably the closest thing to swag, but not really. Not sure why you are asking though as I honestly I don't watch most of their rappers outside of Shuffarlo, Tone, Shox, Dialect and Raptor.

If you want to talk character though, most of the roster has more character than Soul. Guy is a personality-free zone!
Fair i only asked cause you said "DF Extra level" which implies the regular DF roster swagadelic. I think Soul has personality though, I just think he doesn't force one.
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I rate Soul , I really do but that 4-5 spots on my list are QP and Fresco and I think both of them are superior rappers and equal in the writing department.
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Now this is too much. Y'all are out ya fuckin minds saying shit like this. Definitely doing too much. I even like this cat and this is way beyond reality. Maybe top five in DF but I don't know much about their current roster. Which top five person has he battled to make this claim valid?
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unpopular opinion, but i actually think soul is a great rapper. outside of his pretty average flow, he has everything else going for him.

definitely in my current top 10 and might slip into a more objective top 10 as well.
I agree with this, TOP 10. Maybe Top 5, it's debatable. His rapper ability is there on display; his word choice is immaculate and his delivery is improving with every battle. He has beaten some of the backpackers best (Ness Lee, Real Deal, Loe, Bender etc).

How he would fare against someone like a surf, tay roc or JC is still up for question?
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unpopular opinion, but i actually think soul is a great rapper. outside of his pretty average flow, he has everything else going for him. he's a comfy performer and knows how to deliver and time his lines to give you that screwface. not to mention that he is somehow able to pull off an aggressive style without looking like an idiot.

definitely in my current top 10 and might slip into a more objective top 10 as well.
pretty much all his stuff is written in perfect 4/4
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pretty much all his stuff is written in perfect 4/4
true. i was comparing his flow to other rappers like calicoe, ness lee, pass, and the philly dudes, so i wound up not realizing how well he structures his lines compared to the average rapper. i definitely understated.
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Yeah, but he could do with mixing it up a bit. Constantly sticking to 4/4 hasn't been dope since the Treacherous Three, lol. The fact he does everything to 4/4 is one of the reasons he can appear to lack rapping and cadence. If he played around with rhythms, he would be an infinitely better rapper.

That said, he does deserve props for doing one style very well, but there is lots of room to grow.
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Old 03-19-2017, 11:35 PM   #38
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Soul, much like Chilla, is an incredible writer who doesn't always bring much in terms of the other intangibles we look for. I think Soul is that good of a writer to overlook his obvious deficiencies.
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Old 03-20-2017, 02:22 AM   #39
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sleeping dogs is better than Grind Time Australiasleeping dogs is better than Grind Time Australia
soul has really stepped up in his performance aspects. what's made him so deadly isn't so much of him outbarring his opponents (which he does do) as it is the versatility in his writing. his round structure and angles are really good and he's like really tactical in that aspect.
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