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Old 08-01-2013, 04:47 PM   #1
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Smack's east coast bias coming through...

... his release schedules too. Note that every unreleased, or previously unreleased battle has at least ONE person not from the east coast. Non-east coast battlers in bold.

Released vaulted battles:
Hitman Holla vs Phara Funeral

Big Kannon vs O Red - One year to be released

Just Juice (STL) vs QP (DET) - four months to be released

Vaulted battles:

Lotta Zay vs Dose

QP vs JJDD

Yung Ill vs Conceited

Undercard battles from the Aye Verb vs Hitman card still to be released:

Calicoe (DET) vs Black Dollar GE (MIL)

Chris 'Superstar' Starks (STL) vs Cap Boy (MIL)

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RELEASED from NOME:
Chilla vs DNA (Two people from the east coast)

Hollow vs Surf (Two people from the east coast)

UNRELEASED:
Big T vs K Shine

Magic vs Charlie Clips

Holla v Conceited

Dizaster vs T Rex
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First battle released from NOME - NY vs NJ

Second battle released from NOME - NY vs BOS
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Another thing - in the past year, there have been 13 strategy room/interviews uploaded onto URLTV's youtube page. Out of 13, only 1.5 of these were people not from the east coast (Magic/Chilla split one)
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Another thing - in the past year, there have been 13 strategy room/interviews uploaded onto URLTV's youtube page. Out of 13, only 1.5 of these were people not from the east coast (Magic/Chilla split one)
well i mean the strategy room is recorded in person right? the entire url staff is based in ny. they ain't gonna fly to st. louis for a 5 minute interview that only you will watch man.
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Another thing - in the past year, there have been 13 strategy room/interviews uploaded onto URLTV's youtube page. Out of 13, only 1.5 of these were people not from the east coast (Magic/Chilla split one)
Doesn't that make sense though from a geographic/financial standpoint?

Also, take in note, that 5 of the 8 battlers in the UFF competition are from the Midwest.
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iight chill with the conspiracy theories.
So

1. Every battler music video uploaded to the channel are battlers from the east coast.

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2. Practically every strategy room/interview features only east coast battlers.

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3. Every previously vaulted or significantly delayed battle features at least one non-east coast battler.

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4. Every recent day battle still unreleased features at least one non-east coast battler.

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5. Every battle unreleased from NOME features at least one non-east coast battler.

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6. In four years, there have only been three full URL cards outside of NYC.

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7. In four years, there have only been two battlers from the West Coast to appear on URL.
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Ahahahha. Some people say I have red hair I guess, but Ive never seen that...

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Anyways, yeah im going too hard on this. BUT, you guys cannot deny that Smack has a HUGE bias for NYC.

Dude puts on dudes like Nuborn, Oun P, and Goodz on even though they blow. And despite the vast majority of the talent being from the Midwest, we've only gotten three full cards in four years. Whats the deal?
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7. In four years, there have only been two battlers from the West Coast to appear on URL.
who besides Dizaster? I'm blanking
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So

1. Every battler music video uploaded to the channel are battlers from the east coast.

AND

2. Practically every strategy room/interview features only east coast battlers.

AND

3. Every previously vaulted or significantly delayed battle features at least one non-east coast battler.

AND

4. Every recent day battle still unreleased features at least one non-east coast battler.

AND

5. Every battle unreleased from NOME features at least one non-east coast battler.

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6. In four years, there have only been three full URL cards outside of NYC.

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7. In four years, there have only been two battlers from the West Coast to appear on URL.
1. I honestly don't look at any of those so I can't really comment.

2. Again, URL staff is based in NY. I'm sure they don't have the funds to just fly to st louis and do some interview that 10 people might watch if they're lucky.

3. And many of them feature at least one east coast battler. There's only two people in a battle, if it was all midwest/midwest matchups you might have a point.

4. See 3.

5. There's only been 2 battles released from NOME3....one of them was the main event. Kind of a small sample size. And again, there's plenty of east coast battlers with unreleased footage from NOME3. What about the fact they delayed the NOME3 releases for a Verb battle?

6. Once again, staff is based in NY. They're familiar with the venues and know they can fill them. More battlers are from the east coast than not (in URL, at least) and it's much easier to fly a few people into NY than a bunch to Chicago.

7. How many have tried? How many could actually compete? SMACK has no presence in the west coast, the west coast has always had a style very different from URL. Who exactly do you want to see from West Coast on URL? Pass?



There's never been a big KOTD event (not counting FC) outside Toronto. Is Organik biased too?
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@Casual not sure what you are talking about. The two centers of power in kotd are the east coast and fresh coast. Kotd has large presences in each. Compare the two -

Smack has had only three full cards outside of NY in four years. KOTD has had five full cards outside of Toronto in the past year alone - not counting any of the events in Vancouver or Calgary.... and kotd is on tour now
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well yeah. smack is both from and based in NY. i dont think URL has some obligation to be a nationwide organization
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You don't think Smack has an east coast bias?

Just curious - how many people disagreeing with me here are from the Midwest?
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Luke, I think it's great you support your region, but this thread is a huge reach, bro. If Smack truly had some huge vendetta against the Midwest, he would never have expanded there to begin with; nor would he have Midwest emcees on every major card, including main events. Calicoe went from battling Nuborn to Lux in a little over a year. Verb went from battling SB to Clips in a short amount of time too. If Smack didn't care about putting on for the Midwest, he'd never allow for dudes to have those caliber of battles.

If anything, it's the live fans at Webster Hall that have this supposed East Coast bias, not Smack himself.
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Luke, I think it's great you support your region, but this thread is a huge reach, bro. If Smack truly had some huge vendetta against the Midwest, he would never have expanded there to begin with; nor would he have Midwest emcees on every major card, including main events. Calicoe went from battling Nuborn to Lux in a little over a year. Verb went from battling SB to Clips in a short amount of time too. If Smack didn't care about putting on for the Midwest, he'd never allow for dudes to have those caliber of battles.

If anything, it's the live fans at Webster Hall that have this supposed East Coast bias, not Smack himself.
First, thanks for actually responding.

Anyways, I'm not as much saying that Smack has an anti-Midwest bias - but a pro east coast or at the least a pro-nyc bias.

Why do wack dudes like Nuborn and Goodz continue to get battles? Why have there only been three full cards in the Midwest, despite like 50% of the best battlers being from the Midwest?
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Yeah, but there is a lack of GOOD white URL style rappers.

There is no shortage of good midwest battlers.
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If this was true where are the DF battlers? They are more east cost are they now?#flawedargument
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First, thanks for actually responding.

Anyways, I'm not as much saying that Smack has an anti-Midwest bias - but a pro east coast or at the least a pro-nyc bias.

Why do wack dudes like Nuborn and Goodz continue to get battles? Why have there only been three full cards in the Midwest, despite like 50% of the best battlers being from the Midwest?
We talked about this in your "Smack's neglecting the Midwest" thread, which this thread is a Hitman Holla-style remix of.

Smack is based in NY. Monetarily, it makes more sense to have more events in NY than the Midwest. If one of the Midwest dudes wants to step up and join Smack staff in order to hold more events out there, I'm sure Smack would be all over it. That hasn't happened though.

As far as the perceived NY bias itself goes, understand that Smack has a network to think about - a network that started and is based in NY. How would it look if Smack completely ignored mid tier NY emcees? People would say he wasn't being true to where he's from. TBF, Nuborn's been improving and Goodz is a big name still.

So it's a balancing act. You're right to bring up the discussion, but wrong in thinking Smack has neglected your region.
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We talked about this in your "Smack's neglecting the Midwest" thread, which this thread is a Hitman Holla-style remix of.

Smack is based in NY. Monetarily, it makes more sense to have more events in NY than the Midwest. If one of the Midwest dudes wants to step up and join Smack staff in order to hold more events out there, I'm sure Smack would be all over it. That hasn't happened though.

As far as the perceived NY bias itself goes, understand that Smack has a network to think about - a network that started and is based in NY. How would it look if Smack completely ignored mid tier NY emcees? People would say he wasn't being true to where he's from. TBF, Nuborn's been improving and Goodz is a big name still.

So it's a balancing act. You're right to bring up the discussion, but wrong in thinking Smack has neglected your region.
That makes sense. Although I respectfully disagree lol. What about the unreleased battles? How come not a single one is a east coast vs east coast battle?
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Dirt vs Nuborn, Zay vs Dose, are both east vs east.
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Why have there only been three full cards in the Midwest, despite like 50% of the best battlers being from the Midwest?
im sure if he thought he could sell 2000 tickets for 75. a few hundred vip for 150 and some stage for 300 in the midwest, there would be more url events out there. with the amount of money battlers ask for it doesnt make any sense to have big events outside of nyc..in NY hes pretty much guaranteed to sell out the venue at those prices all of the time.
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Old 08-02-2013, 12:02 AM   #38
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Dirt/NB doesn't count, but Zay and Dose... I was wrong about that. Admitted.
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Dirt/NB doesn't count, but Zay and Dose... I was wrong about that. Admitted.
Why doesnt it count? Shit happened over a year ago
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