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Old 01-03-2015, 08:08 AM   #1
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Are we all just clinging to that ONE BATTLE that became a classic?

Like, When we see Dizaster in a card.
We are hoping that the Dizaster vs. DNA would show up.

But naah,
He shows up weak against his next battles (Cortez, Aye Verb, Math Hoffa, T-Rex, Arcane... Cassidy) -Nothing close to him in that DNA Battle.

When we see RemyD,
We are hoping that the RemyD vs. QP would show up,

But naah,
He went light with Pass, Lotta Zay, Fredo, Ness Lee, The Deadman..

When we see Caustic,
We are hoping that the Caustic vs. John John Da Don would show up,

But nahh,
He gave sloppy performances against cortez, ayeverb, jc (He just clowned all these URL battlers)


When we see Illmac,
We're hoping that he'll top his performance against bigg k

But nahh,
Illmac didn't meet expectations when faced against ayeverb, clips, real deal.


Maybe Consistency should be the mark of being top tier in battle rap.
One is considered to be top tier if he keeps surpassing his previous outstanding performance..

Bigg K.. he's one good example!
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Old 01-03-2015, 08:10 AM   #2
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Old 01-03-2015, 08:12 AM   #3
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Like, When we see Dizaster in a card.
We are hoping that the Dizaster vs. DNA would show up.
Stopped reading there.

Nobody hoping for that.
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Old 01-03-2015, 08:13 AM   #4
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Daylyt is kinda up there too. Less the antics, he kept on improving.. his stock rises!
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Stopped reading there.

Nobody hoping for that.
Cmon man! Diz's first round against DNa is definitely one of the greatest round 1 in battle rap.

The energy in that battle was crazy, instant classic.

Tho his third round lost the energy, still doesnt stop it from being a classic.

"So the gap between your teeth exist only as an object of imagery to distract you from the real gap between us and that's..."

you know that was an insane line when you finished the bar in your head.

MY POINT EXACTLY
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Old 01-03-2015, 08:22 AM   #6
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consistency IS the mark of a top tier, but i disagree with most of your post lol
for ex, diz went crazy on can obviously and had plenty of good showings since (math battle is battle of the year contender)
illmac won all those battles
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illmac won all those battles
who cares if he won? he was still ass

murda mook won vs iron solomon but was he good?
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Cmon man! Diz's first round against DNa is definitely one of the greatest round 1 in battle rap.

The energy in that battle was crazy, instant classic.

Tho his third round lost the energy, still doesnt stop it from being a classic.

"So the gap between your teeth exist only as an object of imagery to distract you from the real gap between us and that's..."

you know that was an insane line when you finished the bar in your head.

MY POINT EXACTLY

He had a ton of other boring shit that didn't make sense.
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consistency IS the mark of a top tier, but i disagree with most of your post lol
for ex, diz went crazy on can obviously and had plenty of good showings since (math battle is battle of the year contender)
illmac won all those battles
illmac won, yes, but was he better with clips, ayeverb compared to his performance biggk?

Nahh, my point exactly.

We are probably just clinging to that ONE BATTLE that became a classic, but after that, our expectations were never met.

So we can't call illmac an instant top tier, coz his recent battles were good, but not great.
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illmac won, yes, but was he better with clips, ayeverb compared to his performance biggk?

Nahh, my point exactly.

We are probably just clinging to that ONE BATTLE that became a classic, but after that, our expectations were never met.

So we can't call illmac an instant top tier, coz his recent battles were good, but not great.
my expectations of mac are high as i think he is top ten in the world, and the def met them those battles

thats what im sayin. just cause he wasn't "better" that doesnt mean he wasnt close or didnt have good performance
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"creased dickies to these hippies" made mac instant top tier forever years ago imo
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He had a ton of other boring shit that didn't make sense.
but everytime you see diz on a card,,, you always hope that he'd make writtens as perfect as his writtens were with against DNA, round 1 and 2 to be exact


Like with Pat Stay, we keep praying that he brings out the ultra offensive bars he got against Marv, The saurus, and that very lyrical shit he did against a no-namer.. (the viking lord scheme)

people wants to hear 3 rounds of that, but he never does...
he always allot a round for some clowning shit
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illmac won, yes, but was he better with clips, ayeverb compared to his performance biggk?

Nahh, my point exactly.

We are probably just clinging to that ONE BATTLE that became a classic, but after that, our expectations were never met.

So we can't call illmac an instant top tier, coz his recent battles were good, but not great.
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You can't be top tier forever man.
maybe in the 09-12 era you were top tier,, but it's 2015
Sorry illmac
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Illmac was pretty consistent in the 4 battles you've mentioned. I could see you not liking any of them if it's not your style but idk how you could like one of those and not the other.


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basically you could have made your point in this thread w better examples that people wouldn't feel the need to argue over because the concept works for a lot of people. I'd say less about "the ONE" battle but more about just older battles in general.

lots of ppl have just gotten lazy/sloppy as they've been getting paid consistently and battling more frequently


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When we see Caustic,
We are hoping that the Caustic vs. John John Da Don would show up,

But nahh,
He gave sloppy performances against cortez, ayeverb, jc (He just clowned all these URL battlers)
wtf lmao
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I do kinda agree about both b magic n bigg k, those are probably the most consistent out, would probably throw in saurus n Ars too.

But it's pretty impossible to b consistent every battle, especially if you're taking hella battles a year. Even Clips, who everybody dick rides, just had two terrible battles against Illmac and charron, (I don't listen to the "didn't try" arguement). I think we would get better performances if there were less events, and that would in turn further the longevity of battle rap as a whole, make it less stale. Having 100 leagues trying to do 10 events a year is stupid.
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illmacs performance against real deal was one of his best imo. totally bodied him
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Smh Remy was dope against pass. Would have won convincingly if pass's dick riders would shut the fuck up. Diz was pretty good against math too, but I agree he hasn't matched the dna battle

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illmacs performance against real deal was one of his best imo. totally bodied him
What he said,
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Smh Remy was dope against pass.
This & he bodied Deadman
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I thought I understood this thread until I didn't anymore.

Every battler has a best battle and other battles that aren't his best?

Even if we set aside that fact that little these distinctions between 'good', 'great', 'amazing' you made or even the big ones between 'terrible' and 'great' are based on personal preference, what's your point exactly?

Before the Bigg K battle, were we just clinging onto Illmac's The Saurus battle?
And who's clinging to Remy D? Anyone even mentioned him in the past year?

There's a lot of reasons to factor in for how hard battlers try or how their material comes off: payment, prep time, calibre of the event/platform, calibre of the opponent, opponent itself (flippable name/easy to clown), respect for opponent, opponent fucking up, crowd & many others.

Like the case with Remy and Diz is drugs, Illmac performances suffered from weak opposition and as for Caustic it was prep time (he had that Japan tour or some shit).

But at the end of the day all this is preference. You view Diz/DNA as Diz' best battle while other people seem to think his 1st against Canibus or his 2nd against Math were better. Remy was pretty on par (bar the few stumbles) with the QP joint in his Pass battle. Illmac was just as good (ppl who didn't like that 3rd might even say better) against Verb as he was against K, Verb just sucked out loud and drained the battle's energy (same goes for Real Deal).

Only read the OP so most of this has probably been said before. And if "he wasn't the same as that other battle!!" is really the point of your thread I could only figure you'd want a battler who starts out good, gets slightly better every battle, reaches his peak and there and then retires to 'preserve his legacy' or some shit? Yeah, uh, no. It ain't a Disney movie.
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i thought Remy D was awesome vs Pass, highly rewatchable battle.
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