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Old 02-28-2019, 08:04 PM   #1
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WD8 is apparenlty this weekend?

Kinda forgot. Anyone gonna go/get the PPV? Looks like it's only 5 battles...
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Old 02-28-2019, 08:19 PM   #2
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i haven't got a ticket yet but its been so poorly promoted i know there's 0 chance of it being sold out by sunday , i'll probably go but im not that excited if im being honest
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Lol Jesus, if you would have told me 4 years ago that I'd care so little about kotd that I'd forgot a world domination event was coming up I wouldn't have believed you, but here we are.

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Honestly this is sad man, KOTD used to be my favourite league for a long period. I'm not even tryina be a prick here but I'm genuinely more interested in the fact that Shortee Blitz is DJing the event than any of those battles. His hiphop show on Kiss radio used to be the shit back in the day son! Has there been a more poorly promoted big event? Here's hoping we get some classics and it's the start of an unlikely resurgence. You can do it Chilla, come on now!
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Yeah kinda forgot too, lol. Organik needs to fire his entire marketing team for sure. I have friends who do YouTube for a hobby who are better at marketing than a supposed professional organisation.

Some of the battles have potential. Shox is great and because Ars isn't really a rapper known for his pen it should inspire Soul to not over write and go in on the offense instead.

Genuinely haven't got a clue what the other battles on the card are which shows how badly promoted it has been.
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Googled it and Chilla Vs ICE has some potential. I don't enjoy Chilla, but the battle being in the UK should force ICE to communicate better than usual.

Caustic Vs Rex is literally two people who have shown dozens of times that they don't care to try. Charron has pretty much only ever been dope in the UK, so you never know.
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tbf the last kotd event i went to in london was pretty cool and organik says its due to facebook algarithims or some shit when i asked him about why i haven't seen much promo but this needs to be a good event i think or theres a decent chance it could take the dont flop/grindtime path at the moment and the more big leagues out there the better.
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well isn't the payperview at like 8 in the morning in north america?
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I think this is going to be a really good event.
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tbf the last kotd event i went to in london was pretty cool and organik says its due to facebook algarithims or some shit when i asked him about why i haven't seen much promo
Ah! There's the answer, he's still using Failbook. Get with the 21st century Ganik...
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I would have probably gone but I'm away this weekend so I'll just check the youtube releases.

I like that it's only 5 battles, Shox vs Illmac should be good & Soul vs Ars is an odd one but could turn out great. Agree that it hasn't been promoted too well though, people seemed to be unsure if it was still happening.
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Won't lie, I forgot about this event, too. Usually by now Avocado drops some dope ass trailers to build the hype. Hope the event goes well.
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Won't lie, I forgot about this event, too. Usually by now Avocado drops some dope ass trailers to build the hype. Hope the event goes well.
Is Avo still their video guy?
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Yeah, they literally just posted an image of him with Organik, so he is definitely doing this one.
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Yeah, they literally just posted an image of him with Organik, so he is definitely doing this one.
Well thas a positive for them, at least it'll all look crisp! Hope the event goes off! Thanks for the response
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Honestly, pretty cool of RBE to push the Math / Hollow battle back a day to not interfere with potential WD PPV buyers.
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Got the Tix in, all matchups will be fire, been waiting for an event like this.
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tbf the last kotd event i went to in london was pretty cool and organik says its due to facebook algarithims or some shit when i asked him about why i haven't seen much promo but this needs to be a good event i think or theres a decent chance it could take the dont flop/grindtime path at the moment and the more big leagues out there the better.
Organik sounds like an idiot blaming the algorithms(which are terrible but its not the problem)

If you want to advertise in battle rap you call Angryfan, Jayblac, go on RYD, talk to the fans in the group instead of just bitching at them because they feel the event isn't being advertised well

I saw him make a post about all this money he spent on advertising but when the actual battle fans don't even know wtf is going on why are you wasting your money on that shit? Dudes living in a fantasy land where battle rap is bigger than it is and ads actually mean anything

Advertise within the culture and make the fans care about the event

Throwing flyers up in the city the event is in is pretty much all you should be doing, everything else should be personal
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Organik sounds like an idiot blaming the algorithms(which are terrible but its not the problem)

If you want to advertise in battle rap you call Angryfan, Jayblac, go on RYD, talk to the fans in the group instead of just bitching at them because they feel the event isn't being advertised well

I saw him make a post about all this money he spent on advertising but when the actual battle fans don't even know wtf is going on why are you wasting your money on that shit? Dudes living in a fantasy land where battle rap is bigger than it is and ads actually mean anything

Advertise within the culture and make the fans care about the event

Throwing flyers up in the city the event is in is pretty much all you should be doing, everything else should be personal
lot of good points in here.

im stoked for this card tho
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lot of good points in here.

im stoked for this card tho
Same, small card with fun battles

Got no issues with the card itself just with how the advertising has been done and Ganik being offended that fans have called it out
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Organik sounds like an idiot blaming the algorithms(which are terrible but its not the problem)

If you want to advertise in battle rap you call Angryfan, Jayblac, go on RYD, talk to the fans in the group instead of just bitching at them because they feel the event isn't being advertised well
This is the correct answer. For this kind of thing native advertising is the way. Talk to influencers and get them to talk about your event. Advertising doesn't really work any more for small companies.

Or advertise through controversy. You've got Avo so how about getting Ars on RYD. He watches a Soul battle and trash talks him. Corny, but it would make me at least believe that Ars was hype for the battle and get the word out.
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shox sucks, greg is gonna crush him. don't care about any of the other matches of the few i know about.

and organik talking about algorithms sounds more like him saying the posts don't show in your feed, not actual ads. sounds like he always has some response to everything a fan brings up as an issue which just says its on them or not their fault heh

"Advertising doesn't really work any more for small companies."

lol what? that doesn't even make any sense

fwiw, facebook's ad network allows you to segment an audience with unreal granularity... because its fb and they knew everything about you.

you can absolutely target battle fans specifically with it. not saying he should or that it'd be better than other forms of marketing, but fb's ad network has ridiculously refined audience targeting
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lol what? that doesn't even make any sense
I should rephrase that as traditional models of advertising such as Organik is using. 'Come to my event, this guy and this guy will be battling' is an advertising model from like ten years ago. Basically unless you are a fan of those very specific guys, you won't give a damn.

Instead Organik should be building value around the event. Give us a reason to care. Give us a story. Surprise us. Shock us etc. Don't expect us to get word about your event out without giving us a reason why we should other than oh this event is happening guys...

Basically Organik needs to do more 70:20:10 instead of 100:0:0
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shox sucks, greg is gonna crush him. don't care about any of the other matches of the few i know about.

and organik talking about algorithms sounds more like him saying the posts don't show in your feed, not actual ads. sounds like he always has some response to everything a fan brings up as an issue which just says its on them or not their fault heh

"Advertising doesn't really work any more for small companies."

lol what? that doesn't even make any sense

fwiw, facebook's ad network allows you to segment an audience with unreal granularity... because its fb and they knew everything about you.

you can absolutely target battle fans specifically with it. not saying he should or that it'd be better than other forms of marketing, but fb's ad network has ridiculously refined audience targeting
that's what i'm being told all the time working in social media but tbh the vast majority of FB ads i personally get are of zero interest to me

but yeah KOTD could definitely be doing a much better job advertising this event
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I should rephrase that as traditional models of advertising such as Organik is using. 'Come to my event, this guy and this guy will be battling' is an advertising model from like ten years ago. Basically unless you are a fan of those very specific guys, you won't give a damn.

Instead Organik should be building value around the event. Give us a reason to care. Give us a story. Surprise us. Shock us etc. Don't expect us to get word about your event out without giving us a reason why we should other than oh this event is happening guys...

Basically Organik needs to do more 70:20:10 instead of 100:0:0
so u should have said "organic is bad at advertising" not something dumb like ADVERTISING DOESN'T WORK FOR A SMALL BUSINESS


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that's what i'm being told all the time working in social media but tbh the vast majority of FB ads i personally get are of zero interest to me

but yeah KOTD could definitely be doing a much better job advertising this event
lol everyone is "working in social media" without knowing anything about anything. social media marketing is mostly a retarded buzzword from ppl pedaling bullshit to dumb biz owners anyway.

cpc and social are things i don't have tons of experience with know a decent amount of. your ads are influenced by many things and its not like every person will have ads that appeal to them in general.

you've never gotten remarketing ads in your fb sidebar related to products you've recently researched? or marketing for software related to your "working in social media" job?

on reddit i get ads for triplebyte and spreadsheet software because i was researching a bunch of vba tuts to write some code for a spreadsheet of mine.

u aint get those?
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They did drop 2 vlogs in the end, Illmac's was okay and Chilla's was very representative of his overall persona. I think, since I fell asleep before the end.
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maybe they should not have their business model based on selling PPVs of a product they release for free lter on in higher quality and that ppl can bootleg or steal so easily

maybe they should do 50 other things to make money, maybe they do, idk
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shox currently being terrible and getting destroyed
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So far, Illmac with POTN, Charron/Ward with BOTN.
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there's like 500 garbo twitter accounts for battle rap updates and 95%of them are like "wow this one line was FIRE!" or "damn this guy cooking" with 407 variations. post quotables or something u dipshits lol
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So far, Illmac with POTN, Charron/Ward with BOTN.
I really hope I never end up at an event where a battle like Charron/Award is battle of the night.
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Illmac bodied Shox badly. I see that Shox posted on Reddit that he had some kind of family tragedy happen just a short time ago (and that he almost cancelled the battle), thus why he ended up choking as much as he did against Illmac, but man, Illmac lit Shox up with stuff like the intermissions line or that "Rebelling against rapping in his rounds" rebuttal.

For Charron vs. A. Ward, I'd say A. Ward's impression of Charron was one of the bigger moments of the night, and they both brought unique approaches to breaking each other down.

Caustic vs. Bobby Rex, I thought Bobby had some funny moments with stuff like the Inspector Caustic bit, but Caustic clearly outclassed him with stuff like the "Up here acting cold blooded, I guess homeless people are" bit.

Arsonal vs. Soul, I thought it was a decent enough styles clash. Ars had a solid Scottish flag bar in the 1st, but I thought Soul edged the battle with bars like that "You promised us fire/Fyre, but you're nothing but Ja Rule" bar or a unique spin on Arsonal going back and forth on retiring.

Finally for Chilla Jones vs. Head Ice, I think the judge's decision was accurate, I had Chilla winning the battle pretty clearly. Even without factoring in Ice's chokes/stumbles in the 1st and 2nd, I thought Chilla's rounds were formatted better while also mixing in some effective rebuttals, while Ice would have a good line here and there but after a long stretch of stuff without a payoff. I'm interested to see who Chilla ends up defending the title against, but outside of A. Ward, I think a lot of the potential matches are rematches (Pass, Real Deal, Charron, etc).

Overall, good event, I'm interested to see where KOTD goes from here whether in regard to a MASSacre event or this West Coast event that's happening soon.
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chilla vs a ward *shudder*

organik should just make hella interim chains like the UFC does and give us fun match ups
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Sounds like the only good battles on the card were choke fests. Shame to hear that Shox couldn't get it together as he is probably my favorite in the UK (Give or take Respek). Seems like he had other stuff going on, so he probably should have cancelled honestly. Who would want the stress of battling one of the world's best after that kind of thing?!?

It's okay to just say that Bobby Rex is dumpster juice these days...
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Thank God Ice finally lost his title
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Chilla getting the chain a step in the right ditection for KOTD.
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