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Old 08-20-2013, 04:16 PM   #41
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Pretty much said all this in the original thread

Imo, biggest news out of all this, is that the crowd is only gonna be around 800 people. I think that is gonna help the quality of the battles a lot, tbh.
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This is almost certainly the nail in URL's coffin.

Having Armageddon (sp) cancelled & being banned from Webster Hall was the clip emptied into the body.

Having the GOAT (on paper) card ruined by the wackest cocksucker in battle rap history (Hollow) put on the worst performance of all time (it was so bad for some people it actually overshadows his opponent's amazing performance) and get bodied by Da Gawd Tsu Surf was the headshot.

Now they're throwing the worst card they've ever put together in a hole in the wall venue.

Unless they get Da Gawd Tsu Surf on their next card to save them it's RIP fo sho.
Goddamn shut the fuck up. You're not even funny. You're just annoying. Leave.
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Old 08-20-2013, 04:19 PM   #43
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(In reference to the mook 25k situation) Pointless to talk about what someone should have/shouldn't have done, anyway
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thats the most retarded guess / logic of all time ... so Lux would have taken 10,000-20,000 less depending on Hollows current skill level ?

hes setting the price it will take for him to battle , period , not just vs Hollow

fools gonna get ask to get paid what they ask for , they don't have diff rates for different matchups
hes asking for a certain diva amount for SM & thats what he want's

if anything blame Mook who got 25 g's last year , thats WAY more of a reason that if Hollow bodied Surf or just edged him like he did
Dead @ you being unable to comprehend something as Lux going from being motivated by both money and the desire to crush what was (for some retarded reason) thought to be a top tier nigga to being motivated strictly by $ after said "top tier" nigga shit the bed.

Dead @ Hollow not getting completely demolished vs Surf.

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surf had the best performance of all time...

...when he tried to convince us he wasnt a snitch

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Don't agree and will never agree, tbh. Surf as a rapper on tracks, I like. Performance wise, he's always lost control of his voice to me. He doesn't sound right screaming at the top of his lungs like he has in some of his battles. In the battle with Hollow, he did better than I've seen. I just think he was overrated as a battler because something about his performance has always been off to me.
Clearly, you don't have a fucking clue wtf a top tier battler looks and sounds like.

Stop watching battle rap immediately and kill yourself.

Surf is the GOAT next to Verb.

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Goddamn shut the fuck up. You're not even funny. You're just annoying. Leave.
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Clearly, you don't have a fucking clue wtf a top tier battler looks and sounds like.

Stop watching battle rap immediately and kill yourself.

Surf is the GOAT next to Verb.


LOL, oh I get it now. You're one of those fans aren't you? Yep, I know exactly what do with you.
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Old 08-20-2013, 04:29 PM   #49
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yea my impression of this all was that , they stash cash thruout the year from their lower events , to BE ABLE to pay the huge checks for their blowout event summer madness

seems like they dont have a cash stash in the back room like i thought ....

so thats why i can understand smack bringing up "ppl been taking our money and showing up w/ 2 rounds on deck " i can see that side of the decision
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Why not start giving bonuses for performance of the night, best round, that sorta shit. If they wanna get more money, they gotta put in a good performance.
That reminds me of an idea I had, where the contracts have a clause where if a battler chokes he takes a 20% (or something) penalty in his pay for the battle.
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fair enough, didn't know that.

im sure the other url battlers asking for money don't care how mook got his though.
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The bigger names are trying to cash in based on last years pay days. Remember when all the emcees were pissed after finding out Mook got 20 etc and many emcees in the 8-10k range.

Most of the "big names" are asking at least 10k each. And rumor is that the battler everyone wants to see most is asking for 40k.

His opponent would want no less than 15.

Do the math.

Main event: 55K
5 other battles averaging 10K per emcee: 100K.

You're lookin at 155K to put on 6 battles from names that ain't been preparing and putting out great battles.

So, the money behind URL said, "nope."

They aren't gonna pay 155K for rappers to rap in the first place. But especially, when they ain't putting on great performances.

So... U end up with a more affordable card with hungry emcees who will try to solidify their names.

This is almost a strike. And the replacements are in.

If they put on... The big names gonna have problems. If not... Everyone gonna have problems.

Lets see how it turns out.

On paper, these are very consistent emcees who will handle business. And prev SM cards were 2500 max cap. This year, 800.

And that's another reason the big names aren't there. U can't afford 155K card with 800 capacity. $100 per ticket leaves u at -75k from the jump.

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Clearly, you don't have a fucking clue wtf a top tier battler looks and sounds like.

Stop watching battle rap immediately and kill yourself.
Are you sure that he's the one that's mad? Settle down, its not that serious.
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This card is ass. Bottom line, I agree about Armageddon being a pivot point for url and I think in general they just suck at business. They've had success purely on the steam of their comptetitors, but Smack and Beas have messed up over and over again. I know becuase i've dealt with them in some capacity.

Do ya'll understand why Armageddon got cancelled? Because Smack made some deal with Access4Artists, just another upstart ticketing company ala ticketmaster,ticketweb. Webster Hall wouldn't use them, because that's not how it works, u go to a venue you use their ticket company. So WH said no, bottom line. Smack couldn't saved it but didn't.

The bottom line, well all eyes are on you, do whatever you have to do oto make the best events. Hollow I'm sure would have taken ten if it was ten or nothing, and Lux probably woulda taken thirty when threatened with obscurity. None of these battles are great. Who gives a shit about Calicoe? And why no tsu surf?

The performances at Nome weren't bad, people were booing mostly because the shit was so long and they were hungry.
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Clearly, you don't have a fucking clue wtf a top tier battler looks and sounds like.

Stop watching battle rap immediately and kill yourself.

Surf is the GOAT next to Verb.

hahahaha when i read your comments and look at that gif it looks more like its directed toward you. "stop watching battle rap and kill yourself" meanwhile youre arguing with like 5 other people. bro...we aint mad..but you real mad...

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LOL, oh I get it now. You're one of those fans aren't you? Yep, I know exactly what do with you.
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i don't know man, to me this is the best card for a URL event in a long time...
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see you this wknd. i picked jc, but i have a feeling you may prove me wrong. Finally get to see you battle in person.
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LOL, oh I get it now. You're one of those fans aren't you? Yep, I know exactly what do with you.
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Are you sure that he's the one that's mad? Settle down, its not that serious.
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hahahaha when i read your comments and look at that gif it looks more like its directed toward you. "stop watching battle rap and kill yourself" meanwhile youre arguing with like 5 other people. bro...we aint mad..but you real mad...


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see you this wknd. i picked jc, but i have a feeling you may prove me wrong. Finally get to see you battle in person.
No doubt. I'll see you there.

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Why did they book K-Shine? seriously.... after that Big T performance let him battle big kannon or someone. Serius Jones vs math hoffa sounds booooring. I kinda wish it was Jones vs Mac Miller tbh
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Clearly, you don't have a fucking clue wtf a top tier battler looks and sounds like.

Stop watching battle rap immediately and kill yourself.

Surf is the GOAT next to Verb.

this fool is a Willy clone that doesn't even have any points to his non sense trolling
what a top tier battler "looks like" ?? what an MC wears & what skin color he has is as big criteria to this fool as flow , pen game or performance

you can tell what kinda hip hop / rap this herb listens to just by his post & havin "swag" under his avatar (all garbage mainstream shit)

how can anyone be even considered for greatest of ALL TIME , when they've only been battling couple years & haven't even battled more than 6-8 times in their life ? not to mention only battled top comp a couple times ( & didn't even win all those) ??
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Makes sense, although Math being on the card kind of hurts Smack's claim of, "we only want consistent battlers who have three rounds" since Math has been very inconsistent.

The smaller venue is going to help though. Some of these battles have the potential to be boo'd big time in front of a large crowd but hopefully that won't happen with the smaller crowd.

I still think it's a solid card, but SM just has high standards.
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this fool is a Willy clone that doesn't even have any points to his non sense trolling
what a top tier battler "looks like" ?? what an MC wears & what skin color he has is as big criteria to this fool as flow , pen game or performance

you can tell what kinda hip hop / rap this herb listens to just by his post & havin "swag" under his avatar (all garbage mainstream shit)

how can anyone be even considered for greatest of ALL TIME , when they've only been battling couple years & haven't even battled more than 6-8 times in their life ? not to mention only battled top comp a couple times ( & didn't even win all those) ??
He's exactly the kind of poster I thought we were trying to avoid. And if he posts that gif one more time, him and his posts are gone. Smh@actual moderating having to be done. Theres always got to be one faggot tryhard flooding threads with nonsense, i guess.
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Dead @ you being mad cuz I'm stylin' on you.

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this fool is a Willy clone that doesn't even have any points to his non sense trolling
what a top tier battler "looks like" ?? what an MC wears & what skin color he has is as big criteria to this fool as flow , pen game or performance

you can tell what kinda hip hop / rap this herb listens to just by his post & havin "swag" under his avatar (all garbage mainstream shit)

how can anyone be even considered for greatest of ALL TIME , when they've only been battling couple years & haven't even battled more than 6-8 times in their life ? not to mention only battled top comp a couple times ( & didn't even win all those) ??
Dead @ how fucking retarded and incapable of comprehending English this cunt is.

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this fool is a Willy clone that doesn't even have any points to his non sense trolling
what a top tier battler "looks like" ?? what an MC wears & what skin color he has is as big criteria to this fool as flow , pen game or performance

you can tell what kinda hip hop / rap this herb listens to just by his post & havin "swag" under his avatar (all garbage mainstream shit)

how can anyone be even considered for greatest of ALL TIME , when they've only been battling couple years & haven't even battled more than 6-8 times in their life ? not to mention only battled top comp a couple times ( & didn't even win all those) ??
dude why are you so mad? 1st off he's trolling although he really does hate hollow, he just wants to get under ur skin

2nd u sound like an old black dude on the street wearing nike cortez and pelle pelle talkin bout "Man, this new music trash! KRS 1 was the best!"
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dude why are you so mad? 1st off he's trolling although he really does hate hollow, he just wants to get under ur skin
That's cool and all but that's not what were trying to do on rmbva.
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dead @ 40K, thats like beginning salary of some teachers
worth it considering that lux educated more black people last year than all of the teachers in the united states combined
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Old 08-20-2013, 07:36 PM   #77
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Goddamn shut the fuck up. You're not even funny. You're just annoying. Leave.
Just go to User CP->Edit Ignore List and add his name. Easy.
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Old 08-20-2013, 07:53 PM   #78
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dude why are you so mad? 1st off he's trolling although he really does hate hollow, he just wants to get under ur skin

2nd u sound like an old black dude on the street wearing nike cortez and pelle pelle talkin bout "Man, this new music trash! KRS 1 was the best!"
i didn't say anything about "new music" being trash or all mainstream hip hop being trash , i said i could tell by his posts / swag shit he listens to garbage mainstream

& why do so many people assume that when you write more than a couple sentences your mad ?
i'm just talking bout how much of a lame he is & that his opinions are horrible, don't have any emotion attached to it

EDIT: bunz got banned , lol

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I kinda wanna lift @smacking bunz ban...are his offenses that serious?
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Old 08-20-2013, 09:15 PM   #80
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I mean everything he said about Surf and Hollow is pretty much on point. Surf really did save that event with his presence alone, but then demolishing hollow, that was just extra gravy on top
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