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Old 02-15-2016, 11:57 PM   #81
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haha so youre not gonna watch anymore kotd battles from now on i take it

I so don't watch battles in general anymore, because of how stale and beige they are....

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lolololololololol i had it hfk 1-0 until the head bar. charron 4-0
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So embarrassing. Has organik already done his usual song and dance to try to convince us this was actually a good look?

Should've had chedda go up there, in all seriousness.
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this is sad, only battle i want to see charron is vs caustic so he can roast the fuck outta him
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Organik should never have felt more gratitude for the state of California's existence than when HFK first opened his mouth.
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kinda funny....but mostly stupid that they blew any chance to promote future events there
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they probably all did it because they finally got a callback from someone to do an interview lol
cause smacks on the morning show weekly?

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Exactly my point you are gathering.

No one wants to touch the company after doing their research and seeing this being broadcasted on national tv.
Those companies would do research and come to the same conclusion with or without this video...

No one that plans to invest in battle rap won't do it because of this video. If this puts them off so would countless other things from actual battles.
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k lets rep our brand with our two corniest faggots

great pr


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Those companies would do research and come to the same conclusion with or without this video...

No one that plans to invest in battle rap won't do it because of this video. If this puts them off so would countless other things from actual battles.
I disagree 100%.

If someone researches the company and sees the niche they are in loving it and thriving within, they would still invest within that niche because there is no negative cloud in the mainstream media front (omg drake endorses it, Norm Kelly was one it etc)

....then when you go on national tv and now have this dark encompassing cloud that brings a negative connotation to the company as a whole...No matter what the case may be...this could easily turn away sponsors that would have done so otherwise.
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so hey, you're still content with your stolen piece of shit name?

guess you can say you're not celph titled?
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LOL @ the old lady shit tho, but it was an obvious fucking oversight on both Organik, and the morning show's part.
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so hey, you're still content with your stolen piece of shit name?

guess you can say you're not celph titled?


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What I wanna know is how this all went down...like did someone contact ganik and tell him to pick two dudes to come on the show with him? then he was like iight be we god charron and hfk? cause smfh.

if you got this opportunity pay a couple dudes flights who don't fucking suck and who can actually rap. fly pat out and pay him and twist to do it for the show if need be.

what a missed opportunity.
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this is why we can't tell people we watch battle rap, cause they hear battle rap and think of that charron kid they saw on AM tv.
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dead at you think you rhyme sinister.

charron been at this half his life and still hasn't bothered to even attempt at learning to rap or write a fucking setup.
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I disagree 100%.

If someone researches the company and sees the niche they are in loving it and thriving within, they would still invest within that niche because there is no negative cloud in the mainstream media front (omg drake endorses it, Norm Kelly was one it etc)

....then when you go on national tv and now have this dark encompassing cloud that brings a negative connotation to the company as a whole...No matter what the case may be...this could easily turn away sponsors that would have done so otherwise.
This video doesn't promote anything that hasn't been promoted in KOTD before. The fact the public knows about it now won't change anything. You think people research the company without watching the product that will be associated with their company?

A company that cares about not having their name associated with this video would not want to be associated with battle rap period.

All this does is make it that much easier for these companies to know they don't want to do business. A conclusion they would all come to regardless.
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This video doesn't promote anything that hasn't been promoted in KOTD before. The fact the public knows about it now won't change anything. You think people research the company without watching the product that will be associated with their company?

A company that cares about not having their name associated with this video would not want to be associated with battle rap period.

All this does is make it that much easier for these companies to know they don't want to do business. A conclusion they would all come to regardless.
It's about how you present yourself as a brand to the outside world.

That's how you grow.

I assume KOTD wants to grow?
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I don't see what's debatable about it being better to not embarrass yourself on national tv
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It's about how you present yourself as a brand to the outside world.

That's how you grow.

I assume KOTD wants to grow?
How they present themselves won't matter if they don't paint an honest picture...Going on TV and saying one thing and displaying something entirely different when people look them up afterwards is no more effective than this video.

I just don't see this costing them any potential sponsors. Is it a bad look? ya, but not for that reason.
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How they present themselves won't matter if they don't paint an honest picture...Going on TV and saying one thing and displaying something entirely different when people look them up afterwards is no more effective than this video.

I just don't see this costing them any potential sponsors. Is it a bad look? ya, but not for that reason.
This was NOT an honest picture is what I'm saying dog.

HFK vs Charron talking about fellating each other is what we as fans thinks is normal?

No.
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This was NOT an honest picture is what I'm saying dog.

HFK vs Charron talking about fellating each other is what we as fans thinks is normal?

No.
No, but what does that have to do with sponsors? Now you're arguing something entirely different.

Like I said, this was a bad look, but not because of potential sponsors.

All these sponsors people are talking about being lost are a nonissue from people that never woulda sponsored KOTD in the first place. Thats what I'm saying.

Not that this wasn't a terrible look. Its terrible cause he picked 2 of the worst representatives of the league.
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No, but what does that have to do with sponsors? Now you're arguing something entirely different.

Like I said, this was a bad look, but not because of potential sponsors.

All these sponsors people are talking about being lost are a nonissue from people that never woulda sponsored KOTD in the first place. Thats what I'm saying.

Not that this wasn't a terrible look. Its terrible cause he picked 2 of the worst representatives of the league.
I'm not arguing anything different.

You want sponsors, you put out an honest representation like you said? I'm saying as a fan was that an 'honest' representation...?
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yah idk @JustJ123 i don't think fans are trying to relate to dudes rapping about sucking eachother off when we call ourselves battle fans.. and i dont think faggot punchlines represent KOTD as a league (anymore)
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I'm not arguing anything different.

You want sponsors, you put out an honest representation like you said? I'm saying as a fan was that an 'honest' representation...?
No...I didn't say that would get them sponsors...I said how they represent themselves wont' matter if its not an honest picture. Not that being honest means they will get sponsors...But going on that network is not how they are going to gain sponsors, regardless of what picture they paint.

They put 2 Cornballs up there like they did? We have whats happening now. They put 2 talented people up there? The end result is still going to push sponsors away if they do what KOTD does, which no doesn't mean this homo shit but battle rap does promote negativity.

They go up there and put on a compliments battle, someone takes interest, only then they notice that isn't what the company is about.

I just odn't understand why you think anyone that would seriously consider promoting battle rap would back out over this. Nothing said here hasn't been said in other battles, so even if you believe that, the youtube channel could have the exact same affect...On top of countless other things that push sponsors away.

Battle rap as a whole puts sponsors off...

This video just puts off potential fans. They aren't going to lose sponsorship money over it.
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No, but a faggot punchline is no more counter productive to sponsorship than any of the negative shit in battle rap.

The kind of people that sponsor battle rap don't give a fuck about these things, and the kind who do never would have put money in the first place.
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No...I didn't say that would get them sponsors...I said how they represent themselves wont' matter if its not an honest picture. Not that being honest means they will get sponsors...But going on that network is not how they are going to gain sponsors, regardless of what picture they paint.

They put 2 Cornballs up there like they did? We have whats happening now. They put 2 talented people up there? The end result is still going to push sponsors away if they do what KOTD does, which no doesn't mean this homo shit but battle rap does promote negativity.

They go up there and put on a compliments battle, someone takes interest, only then they notice that isn't what the company is about.

I just odn't understand why you think anyone that would seriously consider promoting battle rap would back out over this. Nothing said here hasn't been said in other battles, so even if you believe that, the youtube channel could have the exact same affect...On top of countless other things that push sponsors away.

Battle rap as a whole puts sponsors off...

This video just puts off potential fans. They aren't going to lose sponsorship money over it.
BUT WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT IT WONT GET THEM SPONSORS.

Fuck sakes, I get the way you feel but legitimately what I'm saying is that there is not one possible positive outcome in funding.

I'm not saying they would have gained them otherwise, but that's not how running a company works dude...I've done shit like this, what matters is always being looked at in as positive of a light as possible and KOTD failed pretty hard, ON THEIR OWN, at this.

That's it, plain and simple.
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Not really sure if it's a good idea to promote battle rap on the local news lol. I think the thing is, your average joe is going to think it's corny and nobody is going to want to learn the bizarre intricacies of the art form. I can't fault Organik for trying to get publicity but this is a bad look no matter how you do it.
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Saw this and it was cringe worthy too lol. To be fair though Smack didn't have an actual battle on the show.
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Old 02-16-2016, 02:31 AM   #118
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Saw this and it was cringe worthy too lol. To be fair though Smack didn't have an actual battle on the show.
how was that cringeworthy? it's a pretty normal interview
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how was that cringeworthy? it's a pretty normal interview
Smack isn't really built for this type of media. For example "how was this rap battle different" he basically says "there's no music" lol. Like really that's it? I didn't even see the Empire show or whatever it's called but he could've went on a tangent right there.

Then "so like do you want the audience involved in the battle?" To be fair it did get a little better from there but the beginning in particular was painful.
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