How Kotd killed battle rap

**LukeWaltonisGoat** · 06-25-2017, 11:55 PM

Let me start by saying S/O to Kotd its a great place for battlers to practice their craft until they're ready for "The Big League" TBH it's probably the best farm system in battle rap... Also Avo is the goat and has nothing to do with this

1. The way Organik calls time... For the most part I feel like they police the time limits well. But the way Organik pronounces the word "time" at the end of rounds is so not Hip Hop and makes the battles unwatchable

2. They consistently book Charron

3. Atmosphere is trash.. If you don't have Don Demarco the real battle rap culture looks at your league like a scrimmage.. The fact that they keep ppv'ing scrimmages is ruining the culture

4. This may be the biggest! Drake announced he would battle MOOK!!! And what did these Jealous assholes do.. they had Charron battle Pat.. That single battle alone is the reason the battle didn't go down

5. The battles are simply toooooo long.. you really expect me to spend 19 minutes of my life watching Ness Lee vs Madflex? And that's one of the shorter battles pretty sure the title match was over an hour

6. They make twisted moves to break up battle crews.. These guys literally paid for 100 Bulletz flight so he could go to Harlem and tell Rex lies about what Mook calling a "short chubby scrub" definitely has hurt the culture

7. This is probably the thing they've done that has hurt the culture the most TBH... THEY MADE BATTLE RAP LOOK LIKE A FUCKIN NERD SPORT!!! One specific battle too... When Charron had that angle at the beginning of his 2nd round vs Loe Pesci it CEMENTED battle rap as a dorky hobby for dorks... It officially died at the conclusion of that round

**Emancee** · 06-26-2017, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by LukeWaltonisGoat

4. This may be the biggest! Drake announced he would battle MOOK!!!

7. When Charron had that angle at the beginning of his 2nd round vs Loe Pesci it CEMENTED battle rap as a dorky hobby for dorks... It officially died at the conclusion of that round

Fake news... sad!

**LukeWaltonisGoat** · 06-26-2017, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Emancee

Fake news... sad!

Those are 100% facts wouldn't have included them otherwise

**Emancee** · 06-26-2017, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by LukeWaltonisGoat

Those are 100% facts wouldn't have included them otherwise

Prove it. Video link to Charron vs Loe Pesci below

**LukeWaltonisGoat** · 06-26-2017, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Emancee

Prove it. Video link to Charron vs Loe Pesci below

The battle got Vaulted because of how cringe it was but anyone who ordered that ppv can confirm everything I said about his 2nd

**Emancee** · 06-26-2017, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by LukeWaltonisGoat

The battle got Vaulted because of how cringe it was but anyone who ordered that ppv can confirm everything I said about his 2nd

Haha! I could totally believe THAT!

**culturedboy** · 06-26-2017, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by LukeWaltonisGoat

The battle got Vaulted because of how cringe it was but anyone who ordered that ppv can confirm everything I said about his 2nd

facts @Emancee it's a battle mad few people have seen because there's absolutely 0 video evidence of it happening -- no one was recording PPVs like that back in the day and the VOD is where it got vaulted

**erfworm** · 06-26-2017, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by LukeWaltonisGoat

7. This is probably the thing they've done that has hurt the culture the most TBH... THEY MADE BATTLE RAP LOOK LIKE A FUCKIN NERD SPORT!!! One specific battle too... When Charron had that angle at the beginning of his 2nd round vs Loe Pesci it CEMENTED battle rap as a dorky hobby for dorks... It officially died at the conclusion of that round

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Originally Posted by LukeWaltonisGoat

THEY MADE BATTLE RAP LOOK LIKE A FUCKIN NERD SPORT!!!

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Originally Posted by LukeWaltonisGoat

LOOK LIKE A FUCKIN NERD SPORT!!!

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Originally Posted by LukeWaltonisGoat

LOOK LIKE

**Ken I. Kickett** · 06-26-2017, 12:34 AM

Srsly didnt read more than 3 words from #1.

You are the reason battle rap could be annoying.

Littly You... stfu. Give constructive criticism.
Then move the fk on.

**LukeWaltonisGoat** · 06-26-2017, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken I. Kickett

Srsly didnt read more than 3 words from #1.

You are the reason the world is annoying my nigga lol Having opinions on some shit without knowing what you're talkin about... How do you criticize my thread without reading it smh

**wwjjddd?** · 06-26-2017, 12:50 AM

the only smart move kotd made was employing King Fly. the man's a genius. sad thing is if kotd actually listened to him none of this would have happened and they'd be #1 league in canada no question. this is facts and i have the documents to prove it.

**LukeWaltonisGoat** · 06-26-2017, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by wwjjddd?

the only smart move kotd made was employing King Fly. the man's a genius. sad thing is if kotd actually listened to him none of this would have happened and they'd be #1 league in canada no question. this is facts and i have the documents to prove it.

Feel like all the OG fans know what it is and all the new fans disagree with us... You talkin pure facts tho

**sleeping dogs** · 06-26-2017, 01:06 AM

lwig w/another goat thread

**SHOWTIME** · 06-26-2017, 01:17 AM

Sad thing is I remember watching charron vs loe pesci once but it was a bootleg. Never seen it again. Lol @ new fans

**Ken I. Kickett** · 06-26-2017, 01:45 AM

The way organik calls time.

I read that sentence in a valley girl voice, and added some OMGs for you.

Just frivolous crybaby reasons.

**LukeWaltonisGoat** · 06-26-2017, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken I. Kickett

The way organik calls time.

I read that sentence in a valley girl voice, and added some OMGs for you.

Just frivolous crybaby reasons.

Someone rep this man

**MrMumbles905** · 06-26-2017, 02:12 AM

These troll posts why I can't come here to often anymore

You don't get straight discussion of battles without these weird posts that I guess supposed to be funny

**Profess** · 06-26-2017, 02:59 AM

@LukeWaltonisGoat What did you think of the time limits in Double Impact 2? Pretty sure there was time limits there

**riffic** · 06-26-2017, 03:03 AM

Jesus, I'd totally forgotten about Charron vs Pesci... Smh.

**acidzero** · 06-26-2017, 03:04 AM

Luke always speaking facts!

**brodeezy** · 06-26-2017, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MrMumbles905

These troll posts why I can't come here to often anymore

no one noticed

**StankDaddy** · 06-26-2017, 07:22 AM

smfh.

**Scartown** · 06-26-2017, 10:42 AM

Where's that mumbles guy. He ain't been around here much....

Said no one ever.

Lwig snapping!!!!

**Abstrakt** · 06-26-2017, 02:31 PM

Lol!!! I like how u just shoehorned in 100 burgers like that

**peace** · 06-26-2017, 03:01 PM

hard

hitting

FACTS!!!!!

WOW!!!!

talk that SHIT luke!!!!!!

**lukej** · 06-26-2017, 03:58 PM

OP out here hurting feelings.

Cheers.

**Cabbagetown** · 06-26-2017, 04:26 PM

Atmosphere for Toronto events sometimes is pretty quiet on cam, I've been to live events and it's not like that in the venue (I'm sure it's nothing compared to a URL event)

Everything else you listed was either preference based or just not true.

Mass 2 and the bunker were 2 of the most exciting things to happen in battle rap last year

And lol at kotd battles being too long. Assume that part was a joke..

**rogermellie** · 06-26-2017, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cabbagetown

Everything else you listed was either preference based or just not true.

Sounds like you prefer to lie to yourself tbr

**LukeWaltonisGoat** · 06-26-2017, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Profess

@LukeWaltonisGoat What did you think of the time limits in Double Impact 2? Pretty sure there was time limits there

Hahaha my nigga Profess.. I was out of town so i didn't get the ppv.. I'm planning on buying the VOD if they make it available but I heard there was some fuckery with the times for the Hitman Verb battle specifically but I still think the way Smack pronounces the word "Time" doesn't take away from the battle nearly as much as when Organik pronounces it

**LukeWaltonisGoat** · 06-26-2017, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMumbles905

These troll posts why I can't come here to often anymore

You don't get straight discussion of battles without these weird posts that I guess supposed to be funny

If ppl aren't ever posting serious threads then why not make troll threads? Obviously this thread specifically isn't s troll thread but ppl don't pay attention to the real threads posted. Can't blame the site dying on a few troll threads

**MrMumbles905** · 06-26-2017, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeWaltonisGoat

If ppl aren't ever posting serious threads then why not make troll threads? Obviously this thread specifically isn't s troll thread but ppl don't pay attention to the real threads posted. Can't blame the site dying on a few troll threads

No the site is dying is because people aren't spending as much times on Forums.

I am saying as to why I personally can't really come here as much. I'm too old for trolling

**MrMumbles905** · 06-26-2017, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by brodeezy

no one noticed

It's good that I'm not like you guys who simply post just to get noticed by others in here.

I came here as a place to discuss battle raps but I guess that's no longer really done in here

**KebertXela** · 06-26-2017, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeWaltonisGoat

100 Bulletz

Facts

**illipsis** · 06-27-2017, 12:03 AM

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Jesus, I'd totally forgotten about Charron vs Pesci... Smh.

Think Pesci had too tbh...probably why he choked all three rounds. Trash battle, but def a classic for the old heads.

**Cabbagetown** · 07-24-2017, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rogermellie

Sounds like you prefer to lie to yourself tbr

you're right

there's 2 types of battle fans

fans who like what you like and fans who are wrong

You should go into politics

...and by that I mean I hope you get shot in a theatre

**RickyProehl** · 07-24-2017, 10:45 PM

Its all about 2 things for me one you mentioned

1. Bad atmospheres kill battles regardless of what league and toronto went from great atmosphere to just dead and it makes the battles fall flat

2. Ppl mimicking the cookie cutter styles. Less original guys bc ppl are scare to be different or have now come up in a time where they copy other styles whether intentionally or not they cant be creative. Add that to the fact that ppl are running out of shit to say and creative ways/things to rap about.

**ledge** · 07-25-2017, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by LukeWaltonisGoat

6. They make twisted moves to break up battle crews.. These guys literally paid for 100 Bulletz flight so he could go to Harlem and tell Rex lies about what Mook calling a "short chubby scrub" definitely has hurt the culture

This is hilarious....please tell me more about it

**rogermellie** · 07-25-2017, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Cabbagetown

you're right

there's 2 types of battle fans

fans who like what you like and fans who are wrong

You should go into politics

...and by that I mean I hope you get shot in a theatre

You don't try to keep up to date then?

**rogermellie** · 07-25-2017, 01:08 AM

You should study philosophy

... and by that I mean I hope you walk around a lot and get bummed

**Cabbagetown** · 07-25-2017, 03:10 AM

Rebuttals are always better when it takes 2 tries to get there.

You should date a Kardashian... in that I hope every magazine is directed at you