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Old 07-21-2018, 04:36 AM   #1
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Anyone else get the feeling....

That John John is gonna decisively beat Hollow?

Not that I think he'll ever be held in the same regard on impact of battle rap but I feel like Hollow has not gotten any BETTER per se and John John has seemed to been on a win streak. 5 years ago this post would have been laughable. What ya'll think?
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Old 07-21-2018, 04:53 AM   #2
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In the venue, maybe. When it hits Youtube and we can hear his awful angles and massive reaches in full, probably not.
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Old 07-21-2018, 06:31 AM   #3
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Yea.........Na! I would be very surprised if JJDD managed to beat Hollow.
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Old 07-21-2018, 12:00 PM   #4
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Jjdd as the underdog is deadly for his oppent.
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Old 07-21-2018, 01:03 PM   #5
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I just don’t see no way John John wins this
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JJDD continues to be one of the corniest nerdbirds in battle rap. Awful voice, cadence, style, pen, etc. He will lose badly like he usually does.
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Old 07-21-2018, 05:38 PM   #7
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im not a fan of jjdd ..i have him losing most the time
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Old 07-21-2018, 06:09 PM   #8
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If john john wins we all lose
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Old 07-21-2018, 06:41 PM   #9
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if hollow doesn't do a you got head during big ks 3rd round angle. He fuckin up.
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Old 07-21-2018, 06:48 PM   #10
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Old 07-22-2018, 06:04 AM   #11
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I'm just saying. I'm not a JJDD fan....but Hollow has been terrible his past couple battles
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His last few battles were Diz, Tay Rock and Ars. And he took all 3. You don’t beat guys like that by being terrible.
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His last few battles were Diz, Tay Rock and Ars. And he took all 3. You donít beat guys like that by being terrible.
he lost CLEARLY to Roc.
and was ass against an ass Did and Ars.
This not the same Hollow we saw against Lux
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Old 07-22-2018, 07:32 AM   #14
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If JJDD either has 3 rounds about the Hollow fight, or does what he’s recently been doing in regard to burying some of his better material under some horrendous material, Hollow will beat him badly.
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Old 07-22-2018, 07:39 AM   #15
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he lost CLEARLY to Roc.
and was ass against an ass Did and Ars.
This not the same Hollow we saw against Lux
Hollow won on rounds, Roc won on having the biggest moments.

His Ars performance is good, don't let Ars' bad performance blind you.

Diz was meh from both, but they were obviously holding back for the real main event that never happened.
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Old 07-22-2018, 01:25 PM   #17
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I want Hollow to lose just so we can see his bounce back battle lol
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Isn't JJDD balding?
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Old 07-22-2018, 02:11 PM   #19
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I hate me some JJDD but I can't lie I'm feelin the same
the only flashes of great Hollow in recent times besides vs. Lux was vs Clips and Pat (pt 1)
and he doesn't really be clearly winning like..ever
Ars and Clips are the only battles I have him clearly winning since Surf tbh:
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Old 07-23-2018, 04:56 AM   #20
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I hate me some JJDD but I can't lie I'm feelin the same
the only flashes of great Hollow in recent times besides vs. Lux was vs Clips and Pat (pt 1)
and he doesn't really be clearly winning like..ever
Ars and Clips are the only battles I have him clearly winning since Surf tbh:
we share the same sentiments
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I hate me some JJDD but I can't lie I'm feelin the same
the only flashes of great Hollow in recent times besides vs. Lux was vs Clips and Pat (pt 1)
and he doesn't really be clearly winning like..ever
Ars and Clips are the only battles I have him clearly winning since Surf tbh:
Assuming you don't include Diz and Budden, he's only had 5 battles since then, lol. 2 clear wins and 2 debatables (Pat and Lux) which most people say he won, plus that super close Roc battle isn't a bad record, surely?

Compare that the JJTD in that time he had debatable with Bigg K and Young Kannon, lost to Shazaam (Genuinely WTF, lol?), lost to Tay Roc, and everyone lost his battle with Chilla including the crowd and Youtube audience.

For sure Hollow isn't the emcee he once was, but c'mon...
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Old 07-23-2018, 11:09 AM   #22
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Assuming you don't include Diz and Budden, he's only had 5 battles since then, lol. 2 clear wins and 2 debatables (Pat and Lux) which most people say he won, plus that super close Roc battle isn't a bad record, surely?

Compare that the JJTD in that time he had debatable with Bigg K and Young Kannon, lost to Shazaam (Genuinely WTF, lol?), lost to Tay Roc, and everyone lost his battle with Chilla including the crowd and Youtube audience.

For sure Hollow isn't the emcee he once was, but c'mon...
C'mon what? I hope Hollow fucks him up tbh but I never thought JJDD stood a chance vs K or Nitty but he pulled some shit off so...

There are people who got Ars winning somehow so even that "clear" W is debatable to some; most people that revisit the Lux battle being honest with themselves have now realized that Lux beat him (3-0 imo)

Hollow is a battler whose material ages horribly so it ends up that his "clears" are more debatable and his debatables lean toward Ls

I personally judge battles after multiple watches (if I can stomach it) and on two scales: my real opinion and my official judgement as if I was paid to judge, and I put my official judgement out to places like this

so to me (my real opinion) is Hollow literally only beat Clips and Ars; I got him losing ALL those other battles and that's including Joe and Diz. I find Hollow to be extremely corny, so much so that his battles make me uncomfortable watching often times but on my official judgements I give his legacy, aura, and effort credit my real self doesn't value and I take other context into account that I don't really care about (like Diz and his battle being technically close, Joe putting the mic down, or the crowd in London really fucking wit Hollow in Pat pt.1.)
My ears, with regard to "that feel" say he damnear never wins but my official stance is he rarely wins clear.

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Old 07-23-2018, 09:01 PM   #24
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Depends on if you believe in a parallel universe tbh
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Hollow hasn't had a clear loss in a decade (keyword: clear), and he already has credit with the London crowd thanks to his one-rounder with Pat. JJDD's fighting a bit of an uphill battle, considering how versatile Hollow is as a battler. But, JJDD had a debatable with Hitman Holla on the biggest card ever, so it's not too much of a reach to think he could pull off an upset. That said though, I got Hollow winning, unless JJDD writes the rounds of his life.
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There are people who got Ars winning somehow so even that "clear" W is debatable to some; most people that revisit the Lux battle being honest with themselves have now realized that Lux beat him (3-0 imo)
Let's not reopen the Hollow vs Lux debate. I will say this though, about a year or so back on RMBVA there was another poll on Lux vs Hollow and sure enough it was the same result (2/3 or so thinking Hollow won).

Personally I still think Hollow won pretty clearly, but all three rounds are at least somewhat debatable. Also in the real way that battles should be judged, it helped both their careers, so who 'won' is irrelevant discussion for Talkback anyway.

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so to me (my real opinion) is Hollow literally only beat Clips and Ars; I got him losing ALL those other battles and that's including Joe and Diz.
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he lost CLEARLY to Roc.
and was ass against an ass Did and Ars.
This not the same Hollow we saw against Lux
he was ass against pat stay too. pat stay won both the battles imo
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JJDD narrowly beat Rum and Bigg K this year. I've never really seen him get demolished. We know he's gonna turn up.
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