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Old 10-23-2016, 09:47 PM   #241
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The listening comprehension in this interview is abysmal. How is the sponser thing this difficult to understand?

Lush was brought on as a host. He offered some money to try and salvage this shit show, going above and beyond his agreed involvement. Makes sense, his wife was involved on the QOTR business side and his friends are performing. He has reasons beyond the hosting gig to want to see this event succeed. It was a show of solidarity at the time to try and build an ongoing business relationship.

It doesn't mean he's now responsible for the artist payouts all of a sudden. The amount of time spent clarifying simple misunderstandings on AFR would be comedic if it wasn't so annoying.

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How did this guy find out where Lush Lives and has his number and emails and recording and bank statements? He said there was -137.20 in Lushes account after he tried to deposit a check from Lush for 4,500. @Lush Damn man you got trolled way worse than I did. At least the guy didn't call your parents to harass them enough to get you to stop posting on the forum. RMBVA is nothing like OTBVA. Wait does this count as him Trolling you? He's just stating facts. He sure knows you better than most. I wouldn't call it an obsession if he's talking about personal issues he has with you.
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Lmao, I'm not prying, if you wanna keep your secret, keep your secret man hahaha

I'm perfectly satisfied with his publicly stated reasoning

it's not a secret, lush legitimately said it in this thread

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The listening comprehension in this interview is abysmal. How is the sponser thing this difficult to understand?

Lush was brought on as a host. He offered some money to try and salvage this shit show, going above and beyond his agreed involvement. Makes sense, his wife was involved on the QOTR business side and his friends are performing. He has reasons beyond the hosting gig to want to see this event succeed. It was a show of solidarity at the time to try and build an ongoing business relationship.

It doesn't mean he's now responsible for the artist payouts all of a sudden. The amount of time spent clarifying simple misunderstandings on AFR would be comedic if it wasn't so annoying.
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The message from this thread is if you put yourself out there enough in the spotlight someone is going to call you out on your shit. D list celebrities ain't even safe.
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If there were a venn diagram for the 2 extremes in terms of battle rap styles, there would be an overlapping area where a lot of battle rappers would fall. Even still, none of that considers "star-quality" which is something that all of the rappers you named have, and that transcends style, sometimes.

That said, how does it benefit an up and coming artist who's marketing themselves as a street rapper to battle for a non-street oriented platform?

Why do you think rum nitty left for URL? Kotd gave him lots of opportunities, I'm sure he could've gotten to battle clips, and bigg k, eventually. He battled o-red, and b magic, already. But it wasn't until he battled on a street-oriented platform before people took him seriously as a street rapper. I didn't make the rules.
The benefit would be that it doesn't limit you. And with the lack of limits it increases your visibility. To just battle on street oriented leagues stunts your stock rising ability.

He left for URL because only battling on KOTD doesn't make sense for him. He had done KOTD then left. But if you rise and never do KOTD it makes sense to eventually try and go to that platform and that market.
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For The guy that deposited Lush's check


He can get in trouble if he knows the check is bad.
The bank can also charge him fees whether it's his fault or not.
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For The guy that deposited Lush's check


He can get in trouble if he knows the check is bad.
The bank can also charge him fees whether it's his fault or not.
I cancelled the check once he didn't pay the talent after the event fell thru like he had promised.
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@Nick H. obviously if this dude is telling tall tales about you then it's b/c you're an easy scapegoat BUT have you considered that he's doing this as an act of revenge for the enchanted relations you had with his bitch that you will undoubtably reference during one of your future intros despite the fact that said relations were unspeakable?
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What's really happened was a great relationship got crushed from bad business fuck ups. Lush seems like the victim here. I can relate to getting fucked over by someone who was once my friend turned enemy. Someone that close to you can fuck over your paper. I'm glad this shit got aired out.
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it's not a secret, lush legitimately said it in this thread
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Has anyone posted a copy of one of WFF's contracts? That would sort out a lot of confusion. It sounds like heads signed contracts without fully reading or understanding and breached just based on not showing up on time. Debo supposedly even changed the contract without WFF's knowledge instead of having artists sign the original. Debo refused to have his people battle because they weren't paid in full before performing, but the original contracts supposedly said they weren't to be paid the rest until after. There is absolutely nothing abnormal with that. I've done contracts both ways, usually at the preference of the artist. If it's an artist I never worked with, they usually don't get the rest until after performing to hold them to specific performance terms. I've had artists that were paid 100% refuse to perform or didn't perform a full set because they didn't like the crowd turnout. Proper contracts prevent that. If they supposedly didn't even get half of their deposits, why did they even show up?

The whole IP address thing would be easy to prove too. All he needs is to check the sender's address in the headers of an email from Lush and one from the supposed fake company. If they match, then it's coming from the same place. Can trace it to a general vicinity just using a free geo IP database too. A paid database would be even more accurate. He's saying he was at Lush's house and used his Internet, which would also be another easy way to match them up when checking the headers.

I can't hate the way this guy was trying to do business, but he was expecting too much. Clearly got played in some fashion and then a battle got swept up by KOTD. That's free promotion that KOTD didn't have to do. Pressuring him to cancel his event, which Lush's wife was taking credit for while being Debo's publicist, benefits everyone else involved if they aren't paying back deposits. I see no reason for this guy to make all this shit up when he already took a loss. Just my $0.02.
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Apparently this is the same guy, so fuck em. Props if he was played. Fool gonna show up at the Bunker and try to arrest y'all with plastic handcuffs.

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I'm listening to this clown CEO speak on Lush and its clear fiction. First off this dude said his "people" "traced the IP address" off an email that went back to Lush One's house. These dudes watch too many movies and don't know anything about how computers/networks work.

Second, he said he went to the bank with a check Lush wrote him and the bank told him lush had negative $130 in the bank. I shouldn't have to explain how stupid this is, but I'm curious. Who here thinks a bank teller will divulge confidential information such as someone else's balance? Embarrassing.

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=-mwumucGee0
-It is possible to trace the IP through an email but you will be likely tracing the domain. This is assuming they are not tracing from the mail server itself.
-Tracing the email as a domain won't solve anything because I doubt lush runs a private email server.
-Another method that people usually fall for. Send an email with a phishing link, link opens in the browser, obtains information about computer.

Not defending him just saying that they are ways to expose vulnerabilities through email

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Bruh....it doesn't matter who is in the wrong in these situations.

When it comes to this shit, it's clear who the common denominator is.
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Bruh....it doesn't matter who is in the wrong in these situations.

When it comes to this shit, it's clear who the common denominator is.
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