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Old 03-21-2020, 03:24 AM   #1
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KOTD - Chilla Jones vs Illmaculate - #MASS3



Top 5 Most Lyrical Battle Rappers
  1. Chilla Jones
  2. Illmaculate
  3. JC
  4. Lux
  5. Mickey Factz





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Top of the first

Illmac getting off to a good start. Crazy food scheme where Mac says organic lettuce wrap.. then he picks up the aggression and now he's dropping a crazy rhyme pattern on Chiila.

Illmac is a real master of the craft here. Not many active battlers can manipulate a flow like this round
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Bottom of the 1st

Chilla rhymes deeper into his rhymes than most active battlers. Eminem has a similar style.

"They find different part and organs in different parts of Oregon. Portland!"

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lux is the most lyrical in that he gives you imagery, bars, excellent wordplay and just plain insanity. illmac is up there tho
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The doses traits of the properties
Of the poppy seed that the dopers take
Make no mistake about this: if you ever been around someone on heroin, they’re a dependant
They go from bingin' to druggin' just to function that engine
The whole body readjust and you just can’t end it
They attack the habit, but the cause of withdrawals is still pendin'
So are you sober, nigga?
'Cause you said you stopped drinkin' lean in October
Well, that isn't a surprise, Hollow
You picked the month wherein the end every individual lies
I mean, you can dress it up how you picture it in your mind
But 'til Hollow wean off it he gon' always be a nigga in disguise
How fly is the Moon Man that went to the bottom?
Ever since you first spaced out in Houston he had a problem
We listen and bear witness
"You already snoo dat"—in your system, nigga!
"Hollow the dininininin— my prediction?
That repetition in your diction due to addiction
From sippin', your mind slippin'
It's like your life written, scripted, but seem cryptic
You driftin' off in the mist of the mission until it's missin'
Oh, the sorrow? I came to clean young blood out: sorrel
This ain't even a quarrel, nigga
This like Quarry versus Ali when the right follow
Your sights boggle, your time borrowed
Your life shoulda been swallowed
Hollow's Apollo, the light model who fights Drago
You might wallow into depression
Dresser full of empty Sprite bottles
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The doses traits of the properties
Of the poppy seed that the dopers take
Make no mistake about this: if you ever been around someone on heroin, theyíre a dependant
They go from bingin' to druggin' just to function that engine
The whole body readjust and you just canít end it
They attack the habit, but the cause of withdrawals is still pendin'
So are you sober, nigga?
'Cause you said you stopped drinkin' lean in October
Well, that isn't a surprise, Hollow
You picked the month wherein the end every individual lies
I mean, you can dress it up how you picture it in your mind
But 'til Hollow wean off it he gon' always be a nigga in disguise
How fly is the Moon Man that went to the bottom?
Ever since you first spaced out in Houston he had a problem
We listen and bear witness
"You already snoo dat"óin your system, nigga!
"Hollow the dinininininó my prediction?
That repetition in your diction due to addiction
From sippin', your mind slippin'
It's like your life written, scripted, but seem cryptic
You driftin' off in the mist of the mission until it's missin'
Oh, the sorrow? I came to clean young blood out: sorrel
This ain't even a quarrel, nigga
This like Quarry versus Ali when the right follow
Your sights boggle, your time borrowed
Your life shoulda been swallowed
Hollow's Apollo, the light model who fights Drago
You might wallow into depression
Dresser full of empty Sprite bottles
Lux....the....GOATTTT!!!!!

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The doses traits of the properties
Of the poppy seed that the dopers take
Make no mistake about this: if you ever been around someone on heroin, theyíre a dependant
They go from bingin' to druggin' just to function that engine
The whole body readjust and you just canít end it
They attack the habit, but the cause of withdrawals is still pendin'
So are you sober, nigga?
'Cause you said you stopped drinkin' lean in October
Well, that isn't a surprise, Hollow
You picked the month wherein the end every individual lies
I mean, you can dress it up how you picture it in your mind
But 'til Hollow wean off it he gon' always be a nigga in disguise
How fly is the Moon Man that went to the bottom?
Ever since you first spaced out in Houston he had a problem
We listen and bear witness
"You already snoo dat"óin your system, nigga!
"Hollow the dinininininó my prediction?
That repetition in your diction due to addiction
From sippin', your mind slippin'
It's like your life written, scripted, but seem cryptic
You driftin' off in the mist of the mission until it's missin'
Oh, the sorrow? I came to clean young blood out: sorrel
This ain't even a quarrel, nigga
This like Quarry versus Ali when the right follow
Your sights boggle, your time borrowed
Your life shoulda been swallowed
Hollow's Apollo, the light model who fights Drago
You might wallow into depression
Dresser full of empty Sprite bottles
The ramblings of a 16 yr old that just read a book for the first time
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The ramblings of a 16 yr old that just read a book for the first time

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Voted Greg without even thinking twice or thinking long.

Illmac may rarely be quoted in the GOAT category, but his pen and delivery are fucking assassination level. He never chokes, he never disappoints, he is the quintessential battle rapper that every other could and should hope to achieve the level of.
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Turned it off after chilla did they napalm/they palm nuclear reaction line.

Will watch illmacs rounds later.

I did appreciate a sick chilla against an ill holding a corona. He might be patient zero for all the shit

I goats wrote chillas opening for his next battle. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Remember chilla only knows single syllable words and action verbs.

“Y’all china bat chilla pandemic like busta...wuhan got you all in check”
And for those of you who don’t speak chilla aka, “Y’all trying to bet chilla can pen dis like busta...woo ha! Got you all in check”
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remember lux set the standard for bar-heavy rounds with his battle vs miles in 2007

"You oughta quit
'Cause I'll flip like a jolly dolphin
Who ever body guard is pushing up flower gardens
Lie on the track, and die on your back with the trolly charging
Rip your necks out, poke your chest out like Dolly Parton"

he even had some dope shit vs mook the first time in 2003!
"Don't play he-man, please, freeze!... and keep hands free
Cause you know the drill: if you pass away they'll go behind you like the three man weave
This is ugly! This cat! Yall put Mugsy! on Shaq?!
It's like a pink rugby, gray slacks; how the fuck is we a match?
You rapping for dough? Packing shows? Mook get the hell out
You might as well be yourself
At least you know you a fucking sell out"
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yo bitch illl pop her n skate,
she'll get shot in the face - like a larry bird defender
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@Abstrakt have you seen the RBE video series "King of RBE?"

I think if Illmac battles there a few more times that he could be a contender
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JC gives Illmac honorable mention... says he is under rated
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I think if Illmac battles there a few more times that he could be a contender
i agree. he's a lot of seasoned fans' favorite battler. also, RBE crowds are pretty objective... whoever shows up that day gets a reaction. illmac is consistently a lyrical god. all he needs is more of a following and a next level performance and he will get more top tier opponents.
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i agree. he's a lot of seasoned fans' favorite battler. also, RBE crowds are pretty objective... whoever shows up that day gets a reaction. illmac is consistently a lyrical god. all he needs is more of a following and a next level performance and he will get more top tier opponents.
I need to rewatch this later


I don't think Illmac had battled Daylyt..
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lowkey I respect how edgy @StankDaddy is being here. Not just anyone would have the gall to criticize Lux


That's because the average IQ among battle rap fans is <100(citation needed). Anyone who has a life outside of battle rap realises that when you have a verse, at least 30% of which makes no syntactical sense and another portion is literal nonsense, that person deserves criticism.
Especially when they're being touted as GOAT. I get Lux's place in the culture and all that - would never knock what he's done for battle rap etc.. but god DAMN he gets away with some absolute FUCKERY in his writing. Battle rap really is an intense bubble with egregious in-group bias. Read some poetry, literature, essays, lyrics (rap or otherwise) - get an idea about real imagery and other devices battle rappers try to use- it becomes very slim pickings when you leave the bubble are realise how high the bar actual is for wordsmithing.

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remember lux set the standard for bar-heavy rounds with his battle vs miles in 2007

"You oughta quit
'Cause I'll flip like a jolly dolphin
Who ever body guard is pushing up flower gardens
Lie on the track, and die on your back with the trolly charging
Rip your necks out, poke your chest out like Dolly Parton"
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Read some poetry, literature, essays, lyrics (rap or otherwise) - get an idea about real imagery and other devices battle rappers try to use- it becomes very slim pickings when you leave the bubble are realise how high the bar actual is for wordsmithing.
Feel free to spit that shit to a URL audience. I'm sure it will go down well.

Lux is dope within the medium of battle rap, but it involves very different skills to writing essays and poetry, they aren't really comparable.

Although it's slightly different. Compare Tupac Shakur's poetry and 2Pac's rapping. Notice how different they are, the same is true of battle rappers.
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Feel free to spit that shit to a URL audience. I'm sure it will go down well.

Lux is dope within the medium of battle rap, but it involves very different skills to writing essays and poetry, they aren't really comparable.

Although it's slightly different. Compare Tupac Shakur's poetry and 2Pac's rapping. Notice how different they are, the same is true of battle rappers.

I disagree. There are syntactical rules that apply to all forms. You realise battle rap is just a way for people of a bent to make their failure to do so come off as swag - which is also a skill that I donít knock
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I disagree. There are syntactical rules that apply to all forms. You realise battle rap is just a way for people of a bent to make their failure to do so come off as swag - which is also a skill that I donít knock
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Style, in writing, is independent of logic, grammar, story-telling etc...
also, this isnít freestyle weíre talking about
Also, itís not free OF style it just means unrestricted by received wisdom in style. Again, something I see as pretty skilful - when itís not a trade off between looking cool and sounding 10 years old.
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@StankDaddy who do YOU think is a good writer... illipsis and random?
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also, this isnít freestyle weíre talking about
Also, itís not free OF style it just means unrestricted by received wisdom in style. Again, something I see as pretty skilful - when itís not a trade off between looking cool and sounding 10 years old.
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Illmac, most of Hollows rounds, Bender, Soul, Shufflo, bits and pieces from most battlers. Aye Verb used to be amazing. Vs Hitman & Cortez
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Illmac, most of Hollows rounds, Bender, Soul, Shufflo, bits and pieces from most battlers. Aye Verb used to be amazing. Vs Hitman & Cortez
hollow says a lot of nonsensical shit. youre right about those aye verb battles though...his battle with cortez was flames
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@StankDaddy who do YOU think is a good writer... illipsis and random?
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Old 04-07-2020, 06:55 PM   #35
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twas a compliment. you and illipsis are what i call "alt-battlers" aka battlers whose biggest strength is their creative writing
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Old 04-21-2020, 09:24 PM   #36
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hollow says a lot of nonsensical shit. youre right about those aye verb battles though...his battle with cortez was flames
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