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Old 05-14-2016, 11:29 AM   #441
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I read through all of this with great interest!

What I learned for sure is that Filmon.tv is a real life version of that company Tom Haverford and Jean Ralphio started on Parks and Recreation, Entertainment 720.

I wish that Alkie Dave guy was referred to as an heir rather than a billionaire. I know he has over a billion dollars which technically makes him a billionaire but he inherited it and 'billionaire' connotes that that money was acquired through visionary business genius or paradigm shifting technological innovation. Alkie Dave seems better at losing money with dumb ideas.

Lush One though, he's been at the heart of so much great battle rap and is really the soul of battle rap on youtube. Has anyone seen pre-Lush GT? Pathetic. When he announced he was joining up with KOTD it meant that KOTD's status was raised as a battle rap enterprise. He seems essential to battle rap, in my point of view.

On the other hand, from an outsider's perspective, he looks and talks like a fuck up, at events and in interviews. He's articulate on the message forum which makes me think that its an on-camera persona but he's also been involved with so many fuck-ups its hard not to think that the guy who's high as fuck on camera and dressed like a halloween hobo may also be involved with aspects of battle rap management that require some degree of professionalism. Its hard for me to reconcile the fact that on camera he's a drugged-out man-child goofball, with the idea that he must be doing, or is expected to be doing, serious work behind the scenes.

These public disputes can't be helpful to a company that might be seeking investors. At some point the company will start contracting and we'll come to see the final public blowout.
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Old 05-15-2016, 12:40 AM   #443
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Can't believe Lush fleeced Nikiya for 20k and still managed to get an invite to his birthday party. Quite sad really.
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Its hard for me to reconcile the fact that on camera he's a drugged-out man-child goofball, with the idea that he must be doing, or is expected to be doing, serious work behind the scenes.
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I read through all of this with great interest!

What I learned for sure is that Filmon.tv is a real life version of that company Tom Haverford and Jean Ralphio started on Parks and Recreation, Entertainment 720.

I wish that Alkie Dave guy was referred to as an heir rather than a billionaire. I know he has over a billion dollars which technically makes him a billionaire but he inherited it and 'billionaire' connotes that that money was acquired through visionary business genius or paradigm shifting technological innovation. Alkie Dave seems better at losing money with dumb ideas.

Lush One though, he's been at the heart of so much great battle rap and is really the soul of battle rap on youtube. Has anyone seen pre-Lush GT? Pathetic. When he announced he was joining up with KOTD it meant that KOTD's status was raised as a battle rap enterprise. He seems essential to battle rap, in my point of view.

On the other hand, from an outsider's perspective, he looks and talks like a fuck up, at events and in interviews. He's articulate on the message forum which makes me think that its an on-camera persona but he's also been involved with so many fuck-ups its hard not to think that the guy who's high as fuck on camera and dressed like a halloween hobo may also be involved with aspects of battle rap management that require some degree of professionalism. Its hard for me to reconcile the fact that on camera he's a drugged-out man-child goofball, with the idea that he must be doing, or is expected to be doing, serious work behind the scenes.

These public disputes can't be helpful to a company that might be seeking investors. At some point the company will start contracting and we'll come to see the final public blowout.
jesus man, great post. I agree with all of this, especially the inherited billionaire stuff. Our country obviously has a huge problem with equating that with success, but that's another thread altogether.

I like you Lush but there's a lot of incongruent bullshit and rampant double talk in your history that I think you need to consider before launching one of these campaigns. You've done a lot but you're also the common bond when it comes to major battle rap league managerial fallout at this point. People are going to connect the dotes and have some questions. You should probably just keep shit quiet, I don't see how any of this helps you.
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I read through all of this with great interest!

What I learned for sure is that Filmon.tv is a real life version of that company Tom Haverford and Jean Ralphio started on Parks and Recreation, Entertainment 720.

I wish that Alkie Dave guy was referred to as an heir rather than a billionaire. I know he has over a billion dollars which technically makes him a billionaire but he inherited it and 'billionaire' connotes that that money was acquired through visionary business genius or paradigm shifting technological innovation. Alkie Dave seems better at losing money with dumb ideas.

Lush One though, he's been at the heart of so much great battle rap and is really the soul of battle rap on youtube. Has anyone seen pre-Lush GT? Pathetic. When he announced he was joining up with KOTD it meant that KOTD's status was raised as a battle rap enterprise. He seems essential to battle rap, in my point of view.

On the other hand, from an outsider's perspective, he looks and talks like a fuck up, at events and in interviews. He's articulate on the message forum which makes me think that its an on-camera persona but he's also been involved with so many fuck-ups its hard not to think that the guy who's high as fuck on camera and dressed like a halloween hobo may also be involved with aspects of battle rap management that require some degree of professionalism. Its hard for me to reconcile the fact that on camera he's a drugged-out man-child goofball, with the idea that he must be doing, or is expected to be doing, serious work behind the scenes.

These public disputes can't be helpful to a company that might be seeking investors. At some point the company will start contracting and we'll come to see the final public blowout.
hes also been part of all the bad parts of battle rap
Death of GT he was in the center

Before Lush GT just started and they still had some classics like Mosh vs Storm

Lush joining KOTD helped Lush more than KOTD It kept him relevant in battle rap
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hes also been part of all the bad parts of battle rap
Death of GT he was in the center

Before Lush GT just started and they still had some classics like Mosh vs Storm

Lush joining KOTD helped Lush more than KOTD It kept him relevant in battle rap
yeah i didn't bring an entire new fan base and wasn't the catalyst for it's relevance in the US or anything..

yeah, I was at 'the center' of GT's death.. it wasn't the one guy who no one wanted to work with and everyone bounced on, it was me at the 'center'...

and yeah, GT was pumping out classics before and I came and after I left..


Just like your a relevant person, a good MC with strong vocal projection, and not a meek quiet cock shiner in person.

Shut your 'on the spectrum' ass the fuk up u 45 year old failure of a rural canadian mark..
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yeah i didn't bring an entire new fan base and wasn't the catalyst for it's relevance in the US or anything..

yeah, I was at 'the center' of GT's death.. it wasn't the one guy who no one wanted to work with and everyone bounced on, it was me at the 'center'...

and yeah, GT was pumping out classics before and I came and after I left..


Just like your a relevant person, a good MC with strong vocal projection, and not a meek quiet cock shiner in person.

Shut your 'on the spectrum' ass the fuk up u 45 year old failure of a rural canadian mark..
now now, lush. no need to insult people for things they were born with; youre better than that.
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I read through all of this with great interest!

What I learned for sure is that Filmon.tv is a real life version of that company Tom Haverford and Jean Ralphio started on Parks and Recreation, Entertainment 720.

I wish that Alkie Dave guy was referred to as an heir rather than a billionaire. I know he has over a billion dollars which technically makes him a billionaire but he inherited it and 'billionaire' connotes that that money was acquired through visionary business genius or paradigm shifting technological innovation. Alkie Dave seems better at losing money with dumb ideas.

Lush One though, he's been at the heart of so much great battle rap and is really the soul of battle rap on youtube. Has anyone seen pre-Lush GT? Pathetic. When he announced he was joining up with KOTD it meant that KOTD's status was raised as a battle rap enterprise. He seems essential to battle rap, in my point of view.

On the other hand, from an outsider's perspective, he looks and talks like a fuck up, at events and in interviews. He's articulate on the message forum which makes me think that its an on-camera persona but he's also been involved with so many fuck-ups its hard not to think that the guy who's high as fuck on camera and dressed like a halloween hobo may also be involved with aspects of battle rap management that require some degree of professionalism. Its hard for me to reconcile the fact that on camera he's a drugged-out man-child goofball, with the idea that he must be doing, or is expected to be doing, serious work behind the scenes.

These public disputes can't be helpful to a company that might be seeking investors. At some point the company will start contracting and we'll come to see the final public blowout.
lmao man Entertainment 720 was the shit. I'm not a huge fan of Parks & Rec overall (stopped watching around season 4) but man they did product some hilarious moments. Jean Ralphio kills me.

Edit: forgot to say that your whole post is really on point too

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man as much as i enjoyed this thread, it's kind of ridiculous that @Nick H., Avo, the KOTD staff, and everyone else involved didn't gather privately around a round table and hash this shit out. i guess the fact that these people live all over the place would make that pretty difficult though... and maybe that wouldn't have even helped. idk. I hope shit gets worked out and stuff but at this point it doesn't sound like it will. and even if it does, while we'll never stop respecting Lush for the positive he's done for battle rap, we will still view him as a sneaky snakey man hssssssssssssssssssss. like of course none of us know exactly what's going on and there are a ton of layers to this shit, but Lush def got caught lying in this thread and that sucks
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hes also been part of all the bad parts of battle rap
Death of GT he was in the center

Before Lush GT just started and they still had some classics like Mosh vs Storm

Lush joining KOTD helped Lush more than KOTD It kept him relevant in battle rap
Hi there, comrade. I did say Lush was involved with a lot of fuck-ups but you and everyone else who hates him needs to recognize that his overall record in battle rap production is impressive. I don't think there's anyone who's been involved with producing more battle rap greatness, no one.

My point though is that, from my perspective on battle rap, which is most people's, that of an outsider/fan, he's an easy target for hate, blame, and ridicule, especially when things go sideways, because he's flamboyant and at least appears drugged out. He also seems to have relied on unreliable people to take on some pretty important tasks in the past. Obviously hate flows easily in this field where the focus of attention is put on people who wear it on their sleeve. I can probably take less than ten minutes to find comments where people say they want Gully TK fired (or dead) and I doubt there's a more benign, friendly appearing presence in battle rap than Gully. To me Lush looks easier to blame than anyone else involved because he comes off as a clown so often, even though most of us don't really know how things have played out behind the scenes.

Of course Lush was going to be at the centre of GT dying, he was an owner. But the division he headed was, I'm guessing, the most successful in GrindTime and it seemed to falter most when he took a step back. And him joining KOTD, I think you have to hate him pretty thoughtlessly to not see how positive overall his involvement has been.
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yeah i didn't bring an entire new fan base and wasn't the catalyst for it's relevance in the US or anything..

yeah, I was at 'the center' of GT's death.. it wasn't the one guy who no one wanted to work with and everyone bounced on, it was me at the 'center'...

and yeah, GT was pumping out classics before and I came and after I left..


Just like your a relevant person, a good MC with strong vocal projection, and not a meek quiet cock shiner in person.

Shut your 'on the spectrum' ass the fuk up u 45 year old failure of a rural canadian mark..
You never met me or spoke to me in person. And if you did meet me in person you would be allot nicer in speaking to me than you are safely behind your computer.

You fucking look 45

You were part of the successes of GT but you were also part of the failures.
I was watching GT before you joined so Im not these people who started watching battles in 2012 who see you as the beginning of shit

What flop session have you not been at the center of in battle rap. Whether people want to give you the blame for it or not many of the bad scenarios in battle rap for some reason you were around.

You just always seem to have some "partner" that you can shove the blame on too while pretending like you keep it 100

And saying you were the catalyst for the relevance. Kind of disrespects what was going on in the East Coast and in the South which for awhile were carrying you guys after one of your flops

You take way to much credit and run from blame
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Hi there, comrade. I did say Lush was involved with a lot of fuck-ups but you and everyone else who hates him needs to recognize that his overall record in battle rap production is impressive. I don't think there's anyone who's been involved with producing more battle rap greatness, no one.

My point though is that, from my perspective on battle rap, which is most people's, that of an outsider/fan, he's an easy target for hate, blame, and ridicule, especially when things go sideways, because he's flamboyant and at least appears drugged out. He also seems to have relied on unreliable people to take on some pretty important tasks in the past. Obviously hate flows easily in this field where the focus of attention is put on people who wear it on their sleeve. I can probably take less than ten minutes to find comments where people say they want Gully TK fired (or dead) and I doubt there's a more benign, friendly appearing presence in battle rap than Gully. To me Lush looks easier to blame than anyone else involved because he comes off as a clown so often, even though most of us don't really know how things have played out behind the scenes.

Of course Lush was going to be at the centre of GT dying, he was an owner. But the division he headed was, I'm guessing, the most successful in GrindTime and it seemed to falter most when he took a step back. And him joining KOTD, I think you have to hate him pretty thoughtlessly to not see how positive overall his involvement has been.
I don't hate Lush I get annoyed that people love to give him credit for shit but no blame for shit.

You can't be at the center of so many fuck ups and not take any responsibilty. And he's always throwing one of his peoples under the bus anytime anything goes wrong to try to make him look better. He likes to talk about being Trill but he' seems really snake like in shit he does. And i feel because he was an avid poster here people didn't want to call him out on some of his bullshit
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I don't hate Lush I get annoyed that people love to give him credit for shit but no blame for shit.

You can't be at the center of so many fuck ups and not take any responsibilty. And he's always throwing one of his peoples under the bus anytime anything goes wrong to try to make him look better. He likes to talk about being Trill but he' seems really snake like in shit he does. And i feel because he was an avid poster here people didn't want to call him out on some of his bullshit
Mumbles your babbling tracheotomy soundin ass been indecipherably babbling non sensical butt hurt hate towards me since the rm days.. It's coo tho, I know your twisted analysis stem from proclivities beyond your control. Hope your clothing line continues to push boundaries and generate huge success in the fashion world.

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Ya he be actin like a lil bitch then he'll be chill sometimes hard to call.. He's improved overall .. Definitely not as a rapper as a guy / poster tho
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Nah BOTB6 was dope af your trippin.. Featured some of the best battles of that year (2013).. BIGG K vs ILLMACULATE, DANNY MYERS vs RUM NITTY, DAYLYT vs HEAD ICE, etc.

And as wack as BOTB7 admittedly was it was HUGE for the Bay Area to Even have FAB battling on a stage with SWAY, E40, TOO $HORT, MAC MALL, etc. hosting.. It still has a huge aura regionally
lol at E40, Too short, sway those niggas are 90's washed up has been that nobody cares are anymore except for the bay area..maybe

most battle rap fans today are young and don't even know who they are
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lol at E40, Too short, sway those niggas are 90's washed up has been that nobody cares are anymore except for the bay area..maybe

most battle rap fans today are young and don't even know who they are
They are definitely regional but legendary especially in the bay.. Ppl out there look at them above Jay and Nas..

Plus 40 was featured on a #1 billboard single last year so he's not exactly irrelevant lol
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And Sway? He has literally one of the biggest radio shows in all of hip-hop to this day..
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mumbles is just hard to understand sometimes.. ive seen him say semi positive about me and then seen him put me on the most trash battlers lists lmao.. i feel he has good intentions
You are good with street style punchlines but that's not my preferred style of battling. And you know you are not a good "rapper" your skill is in pen game. If you ghostwrote for a URL guy he'd be crazy
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Ya he be actin like a lil bitch then he'll be chill sometimes hard to call.. He's improved overall .. Definitely not as a rapper as a guy / poster tho
Got a battle coming up end of the Month in Kingston Vs canadian battler Sirreal
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Ya he be actin like a lil bitch then he'll be chill sometimes hard to call.. He's improved overall .. Definitely not as a rapper as a guy / poster tho
I'm acting like a bitch? THis coming from the dude who gets in his feelings and drops twitter rants over people he thinks stop following him on twitter.

Ok
I give you props where you deserve. U are the best host in battle rap. HOwever I feel that you get away with allot bullshit through the years sometimes
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