Throwback The most debated battle of all time

**Tyren** · 12-27-2016, 12:17 PM

My pick for greatest battle of all time has everything INSTANT CLASSIC

**Emancee** · 12-27-2016, 06:47 PM

I think the majority of people voted for Hollow on this one. Lux was talking a lot, but wasn't really saying anything.

**Sky2real** · 12-27-2016, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Emancee

I think the majority of people voted for Hollow on this one. Lux was talking a lot, but wasn't really saying anything.

Lol you gotta love the new fans

Lux 2-1 or 3-0

**Smokey-Clovn** · 12-27-2016, 08:32 PM

Hollow always good but stand up ......... Don't lean... Richard Pryor...

Lux
Hollow

**Assassin Ben** · 12-27-2016, 09:36 PM

One of the most debated battles ever, nice thread
Repped

I'd add:
Hollow vs Pass and B Magic vs Conceited to that list too

**brodeezy** · 12-27-2016, 09:54 PM

qleen vs b magic

**Bar4Bar** · 12-27-2016, 10:18 PM

Lux took 1+2 CLEARLY and edged 3

**TurboMikey** · 12-27-2016, 11:34 PM

I always thought Mook vs Serius Jones was the most debated tbh.

**Prison Mike** · 12-28-2016, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Assassin Ben

One of the most debated battles ever, nice thread
Repped

I'd add:
Hollow vs Pass and B Magic vs Conceited to that list too

Man, I JUST watched Magic vs Conceited and that's probably B Magic in his top form imo, I had him taking that shit.

**Tyren** · 12-28-2016, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Mike

Man, I JUST watched Magic vs Conceited and that's probably B Magic in his top form imo, I had him taking that shit.

I rewatched that the other day as someone who isnt a huge magic fan i gotta say magic 3-0d one of the best cons we have seen god damn

**Prison Mike** · 12-28-2016, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyren

I rewatched that the other day as someone who isnt a huge magic fan i gotta say magic 3-0d one of the best cons we have seen god damn

I know, right? Every time Con set up a Slow it Down bar, I knew it was coming cause I thought "That didn't make ANY fuckin' sense." Magic just went in on his ass, "Should I SPLIT like a banana?" bar was funny as hell.

**Tyren** · 12-28-2016, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TurboMikey

I always thought Mook vs Serius Jones was the most debated tbh.

When this battle dropped people were in the thread breaking this down bar by bar on who won i remember fresco even getting in on it

**PJ Sumroc** · 12-28-2016, 02:21 AM

Always thought Lux got this 2-1

**gohannnh** · 12-28-2016, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by brodeezy

qleen vs b magic

bmagic is one of my favorites but cmon Lightwork!

**TheGodOfPez** · 12-28-2016, 02:34 AM

Makes me want to revisit Saurus vs Illmaculate.

**Soda Popinski** · 12-28-2016, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by brodeezy

qleen vs b magic

What I clicked on the title hoping it would be referring to.

**Prison Mike** · 12-28-2016, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGodOfPez

Makes me want to revisit Saurus vs Illmaculate.

Who you got? I personally enjoyed The Saurus more in that battle, probably one of the first matches I ever saw. I've been a fan of both ever since, but I guess I understand Illmac winning due to the impact of his last round. They both had so many quotables.

"You think this guy can go platinum? It won't happen, he's got a face for radio and a voice for closed caption.."

"So why's this guy from Portland battle? I mean Scotty Pippen's always lived in Michael Jordan's shadow"

**Schwarzer_Negger** · 12-28-2016, 07:43 AM

Magic vs Real Deal probably the most argued battle ever. Not saying that its the most even just the most argued from both sides.

Amazing how good Hollow vs Lux was considering how much hype and how much fuckery there could have been. It's one of the only true epic matches that didnt dissapoint.

**Prison Mike** · 12-28-2016, 08:01 AM

The only thing that sucks about Hollow vs Lux - The time limits. Minus the unlimited third round, which was a good idea in the end. Seems like they agreed on 5 minutes, but Lux wrote over that any way, although crowd reaction probably didn't help matters at all.

**Emancee** · 12-28-2016, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Sky2real

Lol you gotta love the new fans

Lux 2-1 or 3-0

Sigh, you're not seasoned, you've just been on the forum a long time. There's a difference.

Lux vs Hollow sits on 137:27 to Hollow. Saurus, Dank etc etc all have Hollow. Percentage wise there are as many people on this forum who think (yuck) Charron beat Pat as have your opinion.

So yeah, not debatable at least on this forum. It's cool if you think Lux got it, but just understand that being a contrarion without reason isn't cool.

**idealaedi** · 12-28-2016, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Emancee

Sigh, you're not seasoned, you've just been on the forum a long time. There's a difference.

Lux vs Hollow sits on 137:27 to Hollow. Saurus, Dank etc etc all have Hollow. Percentage wise there are as many people on this forum who think (yuck) Charron beat Pat as have your opinion.

So yeah, not debatable at least on this forum. It's cool if you think Lux got it, but just understand that being a contrarion without reason isn't cool.

I think he was saying you're unseasoned for saying lux wasn't saying anything. I agree with him. That's a wild statement.

**PriceAintRight** · 12-28-2016, 10:14 AM

Hollow didn't say anything that stuck with me other than "It's a circus act for you to get through a fire round".

Can't think of anything else.

Besides..

STAND UP NIGGAS DONT LEAN pretty much ended the battle.

**Prison Mike** · 12-28-2016, 11:10 AM

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But legends don’t choke on purpose
I meant picture John Elway on his last drive
Within the goal line in his 4th in 5
The blitz come he scrambles and get in around it sees the wide receiver open then intentionally grounds it
Legends don’t choke. Picture Jordon game 6, 4th quarter and him passing it to Ron Harper… Legends don’t choke
My nigga what was the obstacle there?
You couldn’t find nothing to rhyme with hospital bed?
I mean not popped with the lead? Shot in the head? Drop till you dead? You like to talk about Calicoe's pops and the feds
Even that rhymes with hospital bed

On first watch, I thought Loaded won, but every time I go back, I feel Hollow edged him.

**azhotazice** · 12-28-2016, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Mike

Man, I JUST watched Magic vs Conceited and that's probably B Magic in his top form imo, I had him taking that shit.

Conceited clearly lost the third, abd I preferred B Magic in rounds 1 and 2 anyway, why the fuck was Smack so blatantly biased towards Conceited tellin the crowd to calm down durings Magics haymakers and straight up on Con nuts shit was hilarious.

**Prison Mike** · 12-28-2016, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by azhotazice

Conceited clearly lost the third, abd I preferred B Magic in rounds 1 and 2 anyway, why the fuck was Smack so blatantly biased towards Conceited tellin the crowd to calm down durings Magics haymakers and straight up on Con nuts shit was hilarious.

I wish I could see that B Magic again. He's been off and on, and I feel like the Solomon battle was some of his best material in a while, but he wrote his ass off for Conceited. Smack prolly regarded Conceited then the same way he does Tay Roc now.

**youdontwannabethatguy** · 12-28-2016, 03:00 PM

2-1 Hollow

Come at me bro

**Pause** · 12-28-2016, 04:30 PM

Hollow was more entertaining than lux in this battle imo

**Kou** · 12-28-2016, 04:37 PM

I had Hollow 2-1, not mad at the people who think Lux got it.

**god level** · 12-28-2016, 05:42 PM

Hollow

**azhotazice** · 12-28-2016, 06:22 PM

Oh and I gave this to Lux right after his first few bars.

"Another future know it all with no answers, look nanna, we got another kid with a gift that just found out it was no santa"

**azhotazice** · 12-28-2016, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Mike

I wish I could see that B Magic again. He's been off and on, and I feel like the Solomon battle was some of his best material in a while, but he wrote his ass off for Conceited. Smack prolly regarded Conceited then the same way he does Tay Roc now.

Funny thing is Roc was on Magics corner in that battle, shit is a big turn off to have a host of a league that biased towards one opponent like yiu repoin a league you can't openly display bias not a good look.

**Emancee** · 12-28-2016, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by idealaedi

I think he was saying you're unseasoned for saying lux wasn't saying anything. I agree with him. That's a wild statement.

Depends on how you look at a battle really. I think Lux's lyricism is amazing, but I don't see him winning the battle, he was more trying to show how complex his writing is. I always think that a battle has to be about everything. I believe that Lux was looking at the battle as a chance to showcase lyricism, but he wasn't really 'battling'' as effectively as Hollow to me.

**TheGodOfPez** · 12-28-2016, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Mike

Who you got? I personally enjoyed The Saurus more in that battle, probably one of the first matches I ever saw. I've been a fan of both ever since, but I guess I understand Illmac winning due to the impact of his last round. They both had so many quotables.

"You think this guy can go platinum? It won't happen, he's got a face for radio and a voice for closed caption.."

"So why's this guy from Portland battle? I mean Scotty Pippen's always lived in Michael Jordan's shadow"

Saurus. That Jordan / Pippen line is still fire to this day!

**mulatto mutant** · 12-29-2016, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Emancee

Depends on how you look at a battle really. I think Lux's lyricism is amazing, but I don't see him winning the battle, he was more trying to show how complex his writing is. I always think that a battle has to be about everything. I believe that Lux was looking at the battle as a chance to showcase lyricism, but he wasn't really 'battling'' as effectively as Hollow to me.

That battle wasn't to show who could do the other's style better tho

Hollow didn't go in trying to outrap lux

They had their strengths and weaknesses and went in trying to see who could better attack and break down their opponent with their skill sets

I have hollow winning but saying lux didn't do ABSOLUTELY what he was supposed to and outdoing any other modern performance he's had is blasphemy

He broke hollow down better than anyone a using an angle everyone saw coming and didn't think would be effective in the slightest

**Assassin Ben** · 12-29-2016, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Schwarzer_Negger

Magic vs Real Deal probably the most argued battle ever. Not saying that its the most even just the most argued from both sides.

Amazing how good Hollow vs Lux was considering how much hype and how much fuckery there could have been. It's one of the only true epic matches that didnt dissapoint.

Good point about Hollow and Lux, I was expecting the battle to be a let down but it lived up to expectations
I also remember b magic vs real deal argument on otbva, rm and this site...glad thats over

it always turned into a race war

**Assassin Ben** · 12-29-2016, 02:01 AM

I thought LUX took it, his third was phenomenal

**Shonuff** · 12-29-2016, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Emancee

I think the majority of people voted for Hollow on this one. Lux was talking a lot, but wasn't really saying anything.

He actually was ppl just don't pay enough attention if ain't simple and written in crayon they can't follow it

**Emancee** · 12-29-2016, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mulatto mutant

He broke hollow down better than anyone a using an angle everyone saw coming and didn't think would be effective in the slightest

I think if we agree for the most part. I disagree with Lux actually breaking Holiow down. Lux said a lot about Hollow's drug problems, but I don't think he really got to the core of Hollow's being except with the 'stand up/ don't lean' bar that is an airhorn moment.

I appreciate the way Lux used his angles as the writing is insane, but Hollow changed the way I looked at Lux, Lux just made me view Hollow the same way in an intricate way.

**Emancee** · 12-29-2016, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Shonuff

He actually was ppl just don't pay enough attention if ain't simple and written in crayon they can't follow it

7/10 troll attempt

Overall grade C-

**coleowsuz** · 01-02-2017, 08:42 PM

I remember following the Twitter updates and everyone saying hollow 3-0'd lux then watching it and being super underwhelmed by hollow . I really only revisit this battle to hear lux so based off that I think he won