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Old 04-13-2016, 04:26 PM   #1
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Old 04-13-2016, 04:43 PM   #2
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psycoses racism showed a bit

"i've wanted to see this for a long time, this is a great matchup"

"caustic 3-0 hes gonna BAG rex"

??? then why do you want to see this matchup
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psycoses racism showed a bit

"i've wanted to see this for a long time, this is a great matchup"

"caustic 3-0 hes gonna BAG rex"

??? then why do you want to see this matchup
Exactly! I've been saying this shit forever. It's so fucking transparent, it's kinda insane that people still refuse to admit it. Like, if u have those kind of views, whatever. That's ur prerogative. BUT, stop lying and pretending that u actually give a fuck about Rex. Damn near all these "style clash" battles that kotdfc sets up have this underlying race war element, and they play stupid as if that's not intentional.

I actually watched the trailer cuz of ur comment, just so that I wouldn't be making a post coming from ignorance, and the trailer was way more favorable to one battler than the other. Can u guess which one? I'll give u a hint. Its the one who's a white-supremacist apologist. Weird, right? That, combined with the racially motivated reasons for setting up his match up, and then, like u said, the slip up of adding in the dude basically admitting his dubious reasons for looking forward to the battle all make me kinda sick.

It wouldn't be so bad if people would just be honest about their intentions.
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Damn near all these "style clash" battles that kotdfc sets up have this underlying race war element, and they play stupid as if that's not intentional.
i just want to point out that i do like/campaigned for most of the style clashes kotd has put on (verb/illmac, bender/t, fresco/ill, etc)

I just think that caustic and rex makes no sense and psycoses' comment was super suspect
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i just want to point out that i do like/campaigned for most of the style clashes kotd has put on (verb/illmac, bender/t, fresco/ill, etc)

I just think that caustic and rex makes no sense and psycoses' comment was super suspect
yeah, but the battle has been set up and canceled twice before. It was set up 4 years ago and then KOTD in Toronto set it up when it got canceled. KOTDFC can't really be blamed for setting it up considering it's a free battle for them.

Also, if Rex blacks out in this battle, he'll kill Caustic, but Caustic fans will still get to hear what is, I assume, some of Caustic's best material.
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yeah, but the battle has been set up and canceled twice before. It was set up 4 years ago and then KOTD in Toronto set it up when it got canceled. KOTDFC can't really be blamed for setting it up considering it's a free battle for them.

Also, if Rex blacks out in this battle, he'll kill Caustic, but Caustic fans will still get to hear what is, I assume, some of Caustic's best material.
fair enough, i didn't notice it had ever been set up before bo6

and i do sorta think rex is gonna snap n 30 caustic
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i just want to point out that i do like/campaigned for most of the style clashes kotd has put on (verb/illmac, bender/t, fresco/ill, etc)

I just think that caustic and rex makes no sense and psycoses' comment was super suspect
Those battles almost make some sense stylistically tho.

Bender / big t - overweight lyrical dudes
Verb / illmac - while this def seemed like they did really wanna give illmac his 8 mile moment, they both are very lyrical and rely heavily on imagery
Fresco / yung ill - pretty boys battle (pause), altho that also seemed a bit racially motivated tbch

Not every time a black person battles a white person it's set up based on race, but A LOT of the time, it is. Anyone who says different is either a lying racist or has their head in the sand.

Take ux9 for example. That guy is most definitely a lying racist. On a side note, something I do wonder about is how these battle rappers and staff members who claim to NOT be racist feel about having supporters / fans that ARE very clearly racist. I know they know. You can't possibly believe that there are not a bunch of racist white people out there that want to see caustic beat that nasty nigger at his own game. They may not say it like that, but lets not kid ourselves here, that's what they want to see. But I digress..

Things like what psychosis said are very common. There's plenty of thinly veiled racism coming from a lot of those guys and their fans. It just annoys me when people speak in code, or use double talk to hide their racist intentions. I imagine they do it because they're afraid to confront the idea or admit that they are actually racist. Some of them might even believe that they are NOT racist in spite of supporting and promoting racism. I've found that today a lot of racists don't consider themselves racists because they don't drop "nbombs" or burn crosses, as if that were the benchmark.

Anyway, I see right through all this bullshit, and it's only because I've spent so much time on this site for the past few years. I have a unique perspective on this matter and other people who might actually care that shit like this happens simply aren't paying attention. I didnt always think like this, it's only been since the past couple years when I started noticing the patterns.

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psycoses racism showed a bit

"i've wanted to see this for a long time, this is a great matchup"

"caustic 3-0 hes gonna BAG rex"

??? then why do you want to see this matchup
Yeah, because giving a personal opinion on who would win between 2 battle rappers is totally considered racism

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Exactly! I've been saying this shit forever. It's so fucking transparent, it's kinda insane that people still refuse to admit it. Like, if u have those kind of views, whatever. That's ur prerogative. BUT, stop lying and pretending that u actually give a fuck about Rex. Damn near all these "style clash" battles that kotdfc sets up have this underlying race war element, and they play stupid as if that's not intentional.

I actually watched the trailer cuz of ur comment, just so that I wouldn't be making a post coming from ignorance, and the trailer was way more favorable to one battler than the other. Can u guess which one? I'll give u a hint. Its the one who's a white-supremacist apologist. Weird, right? That, combined with the racially motivated reasons for setting up his match up, and then, like u said, the slip up of adding in the dude basically admitting his dubious reasons for looking forward to the battle all make me kinda sick.

It wouldn't be so bad if people would just be honest about their intentions.
Dude what the fuck are you talking about

There's nothing racial about this

If this is your opinion, then Grindtime's Okwerdz vs Rex was racist, URLs Tink vs Mike P was racist, don't flops every tony d battle was racist...

You're very ignorant and obsessed with race topics towards battle rap, which is weird

Its called battle rap, not battle skin.
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Dude what the fuck are you talking about

There's nothing racial about this

If this is your opinion, then Grindtime's Okwerdz vs Rex was racist, URLs Tink vs Mike P was racist, don't flops every tony d battle was racist...

You're very ignorant and obsessed with race topics towards battle rap, which is weird

Its called battle rap, not battle skin.
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Yeah, because giving a personal opinion on who would win between 2 battle rappers is totally considered racism

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thinking caustic will win isnt the issue

saying its a match you want to see means that it in some way excites you, and that you want to see it

but if he expects rex to get bagged up by caustic, then whats the excitement in that match? why would he be excited about seeing rex lose in such an extravagant fashion?

its just weird

a matchup i want to see, for instance, is fresco vs bigg k. its exciting because they both would do great and while i think fresco would edge it, i'm not going into this battle hoping bigg k gets bodybagged because then its not an exciting matchup anymore

the fact u cant see the logic here is astounding
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ok, but

caustic cant rap worth shit and rex is amazing at it.. so why did the dynamic in the trailer feel like rex is the underdog if for any reason other than white dudes dick riding other white dudes against the black guy?


like.. caustic is really shitty at actually rapping. his whole thing is saying insulting shit, not rapping. rex is known for his ability to rap.

this battle isnt about "rap", stop kidding yourself lol
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thinking caustic will win isnt the issue

saying its a match you want to see means that it in some way excites you, and that you want to see it

but if he expects rex to get bagged up by caustic, then whats the excitement in that match? why would he be excited about seeing rex lose in such an extravagant fashion?

its just weird

a matchup i want to see, for instance, is fresco vs bigg k. its exciting because they both would do great and while i think fresco would edge it, i'm not going into this battle hoping bigg k gets bodybagged because then its not an exciting matchup anymore

the fact u cant see the logic here is astounding
Maybe it's because both of them are from the same area and Caustic probably has the greatest bodybag victories in battle rap

Skin has nothing to do with it, friendly bias maybe, but jumping to racism pretty much shows your jacked up logic
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ok, but

caustic cant rap worth shit and rex is amazing at it.. so why did the dynamic in the trailer feel like rex is the underdog if for any reason other than white dudes dick riding other white dudes against the black guy?


like.. caustic is really shitty at actually rapping. his whole thing is saying insulting shit, not rapping. rex is known for his ability to rap.

this battle isnt about "rap", stop kidding yourself lol
Yeah? And Rex hasn't won a battle since Total Slaughter

It's not just about how good you can flow in rap, it's how you punch, which Caustic is definitely better at than Rex

If you can't agree to that, you're ignorant.

Maybe everyone in the trailer has watched Rex's shitty ass "rapping" for the past 2 years and can agree he more than likely won't change for this battle and are rooting for the actual battle rapper.

Ever think of that?
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Maybe it's because both of them are from the same area and Caustic probably has the greatest bodybag victories in battle rap

Skin has nothing to do with it, friendly bias maybe, but jumping to racism pretty much shows your jacked up logic
still doesn't explain why he would think it's a good battle

west coast bias is fine and dandy just ask thesaurus. its cool to rep ur region

this just dont sound like west coast bias to me. sounds like hes been wanting to watch rex get bodied by a weirdo who cant rap for years and i cant think of any logical reason for that
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still doesn't explain why he would think it's a good battle

west coast bias is fine and dandy just ask thesaurus. its cool to rep ur region

this just dont sound like west coast bias to me. sounds like hes been wanting to watch rex get bodied by a weirdo who cant rap for years and i cant think of any logical reason for that
To be fair Rex is a bit of a heel on the West Coast.

Also, wanting to see your boy bodybag a legend doesn't seem racist to me.

Most of the time I want to see my favorite rappers bodybag their opponents even if I think their opponent is good. Bodybags or Classics are my favorites to watch Fresco vs Saurus or Bender vs Syd being examples.
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Mike P vs. Tink Da Demon didn't give me one thought about it.
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Mike P vs. Tink Da Demon didn't give me one thought about it.
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thinking caustic will win isnt the issue

saying its a match you want to see means that it in some way excites you, and that you want to see it

but if he expects rex to get bagged up by caustic, then whats the excitement in that match? why would he be excited about seeing rex lose in such an extravagant fashion?

its just weird

a matchup i want to see, for instance, is fresco vs bigg k. its exciting because they both would do great and while i think fresco would edge it, i'm not going into this battle hoping bigg k gets bodybagged because then its not an exciting matchup anymore

the fact u cant see the logic here is astounding
the excitement could be for a few reasons; one of which could be caustic (potentially) bodying a legend in what would be his best look yet as far as names and time go.

i'm all for calling out clear racist bullshit in battle rap. but i'm just not for immediately jumping to conclusions. i think it's a bit hastey to suspect that psycoses is a racist just off of that alone tbh.
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Old 04-14-2016, 12:00 AM   #33
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care to expand on this?

(im not disagree'ing or even trying to spark an argument, just curious the reasoning behind you feeling like this)
i know you didn't ask for my reasoning, but i'll add my perspective since you're cool af and always down to hear fans out.

sometimes, KOTD sets up some battles that indirectly cater to racist fans' fix to see a white guy beat a black guy at his own game.

charron, in my opinion, is the poster boy for this, hence why you can see comments like this on his battles.



sure, the KOTD staff might not even implicitly have such a perspective, but what do you expect to happen when a white boy (charron, in this case) will do anything to call himself the "smack killer?" c'mon, we all know "smack killer" translates to "the nerdy white underdog who is better than niggas at nigga shit."

charron isn't the only one, but i use him as an example because 1) pat stay had pretty credible racist accusations against him in their battle and 2) he's the most relevant and obnoxious one to capitalize off of this racial bullshit.

don't you think it's kinda weird that, as far as "relevant" north american battles go, almost all of them over the past year or 2 have been against people of color? sure, a white guy facing a series of people of color in what is a predominantly black art isn't racist or incredible, but charron isn't mike p or gjonaj. he has an agenda to deliberately separate himself from black rappers because of his identity as a white and geeky rapper. racist white battle rap (and hip-hop, generally) fans love that. he's catering to them and i wouldn't be surprised if he's purposely doing so.

you know how racist whites shit on black people but could watch 8 mile and adore eminem's story? that's a portion of a few white battler's fan base -- charron included.

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holy hell at that comment.
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Not only is that youtube comment fucked, it has 12 likes. It shows that there is a group of these people who follow battles...

It really is irritating how battling has caught on with people who not only don't like Black people, but they don't even like Rap/Hip-Hop of any form, outside of trying to vicariously live through some of these nerdy white dudes and live out some weird 8-mile fetish they have in their head. "OMG the white guy can rap and he's beating a black guy! huahuahuahua amazing!!!." I have to agree that Charron, probably not by conscious choice, is the poster-boy for this kind of shit.

Sorry, kinda off topic.

I hope a somewhat motivated Rex shows up and kills shit, but I don't have my hopes up.


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Maybe everyone in the trailer has watched Rex's shitty ass "rapping" for the past 2 years and can agree he more than likely won't change for this battle and are rooting for the actual battle rapper.

Ever think of that?
it's a trailer.

if going into a trailer with a bias premise is a good idea to you, then you're a fuckin idiot.

from the jump of the trailer it's "sorry guys.. Caustic isn't battling tonight because rex didn't show up[/i] followed by Caustic talking some shit about him ducking. it wasn't "it sucks this good battle isn't gonna go down!!" it was "caustic isnt battling". followed by a caustic highlight. followed by caustic praise.

then it jumps to a rex clip which was dope af.. but then the dynamic shifts to more "caustic's battle" bullshit.

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It's not just about how good you can flow in rap, it's how you punch, which Caustic is definitely better at than Rex
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the fuck lmao? people aren't quoting caustic bars when they talk about punchlines. people don't watch caustic battles because they wanna hear good punchlines. they watch caustic battles because they wanna see disrespect, and you whiteboys get all antsy because caustic is one of the few whiteys that disrespects black guys. stop making shit up

you made some bullshit saying this battle and battles like it are about the rapping. t rex is the better rapper even when he's dialing his battles in. but that doesn't matter to most of you because that isnt what this battle is about.
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LOL never heard that ever
Ok, then tell me who has better bodybags than Caustic

Better yet, tell me who has MORE bodybags than Caustic

I'll wait
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Ok, then tell me who has better bodybags than Caustic

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I'll wait
if u saying you'll wait means you won't post until someone answers ur stupid fuckin question..








































can no one please answer his stupid fuckin question??
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care to expand on this?

(im not disagree'ing or even trying to spark an argument, just curious the reasoning behind you feeling like this)
I'm a long time fan, and I think it stems from early choices on how to promote battles. Like "Terrorist Battle" back when KOTD was still "PutYourMoneyWhereYourMouthIz". It gave a lot of early clashes a gimmicky feeling that I think still has stuck with them all these years later. It's been almost 10 years now.

Aside from that, the fanbase (earlier, and to a smaller extent now) where so divided between KOTD and URL, Montagues and Capulets style. Unfortunately, the representation for K was always relatively caucasion, and Smack is almost always represented as a "black" platform. So without trying it became an underlying theme of "black vs. white".

It continued to escalate that way especially after KOTD started booking battlers from the other platforms, due to the best talent in Canada being.. well... white.

I think a lot of it is gross misconception that has permeated the minds. A small seed planted if that makes any sense. Like you, Avo, you've ALWAYS been presented as even keel, so no matter your affiliations nobody has any issue with you.
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100 percent rex phones this in and picks up his check. lol @ wasting money
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