this mass 4 lineup got me thinking. KOTD is still doing well...

**peace** · 04-20-2018, 12:25 PM

at pushing uninteresting permanent mid-tier battlers

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**All Day** · 04-20-2018, 01:39 PM

lol yeea

so far it looks like they've taken their 2 biggest events of the year, combined them, and made it 1 average event.

**Cuntoffs are Jumps** · 04-20-2018, 01:58 PM

...like that

**Profess** · 04-20-2018, 02:32 PM

To be fair, all this hype surrounding the way the URL is taking the ppv game to new levels ect... Couldn't it be argued that they bit some that style from kotd?

While KOTD isn't leading the way with building worldclass performers. Can we honestly say that their behind the scenes work isn't above average?

For example, Cortez is on record a few years ago saying that KOTD treated him well at World Dom (better than URL).. some of the reasons he stated were press related and promo

**rogermellie** · 04-20-2018, 03:02 PM

I don't think it's THAT bad at all, I like that Nems vs Head Ice is happening; Thesaurus and E ness are always good; Real Deal has made me a fan again the past year or so.

What battlers could they announce that would make you guys feel differently, who are some people you want to see KOTD pushing?

I'd like to see Everybody Knows on there for sure. Ness Lee, Pass, Illipsis, Pigsty, Fredo & Madflex aswell.

Edit - Just remembered Big T is on there aswell, he always kills it on KOTD.

**rogermellie** · 04-20-2018, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Profess

For example, Cortez is on record a few years ago saying that KOTD treated him well at World Dom (better than URL).. some of the reasons he stated were press related and promo

That doesn't really contradict the OP at all, I like Cortez but he's a pretty good example of permanently mid-tier person that they pushed a lot. He just had a shot at O Red on URL and lost clearly.

**peace** · 04-20-2018, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Profess

To be fair, all this hype surrounding the way the URL is taking the ppv game to new levels ect... Couldn't it be argued that they bit some that style from kotd?

While KOTD isn't leading the way with building worldclass performers. Can we honestly say that their behind the scenes work isn't above average?

For example, Cortez is on record a few years ago saying that KOTD treated him well at World Dom (better than URL).. some of the reasons he stated were press related and promo

i'd much much much much rather have a league that's behind in doing quality PPVs than a league that makes fans ask "why was this battle booked" at least twice per event tbh

**Profess** · 04-20-2018, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by peace

i'd much much much much rather have a league that's behind in doing quality PPVs than a league that makes fans ask "why was this battle booked" at least twice per event tbh

Good point, aren't there less matches on most url cards? If kotd is going to fill out big cards, among others reasons, isn't there going to be a talent drop too?

**Jaybird** · 04-20-2018, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rogermellie

I don't think it's THAT bad at all, I like that Nems vs Head Ice is happening; Thesaurus and E ness are always good; Real Deal has made me a fan again the past year or so.

What battlers could they announce that would make you guys feel differently, who are some people you want to see KOTD pushing?

I'd like to see Everybody Knows on there for sure. Ness Lee, Pass, Illipsis, Pigsty, Fredo & Madflex aswell.

Edit - Just remembered Big T is on there aswell, he always kills it on KOTD.

The list is endless. Anyone unexpected. Maybe 1 big smack name then just anyone you don’t see a lot.

Soul, Kid Twist, OSA, Pigsty, Rone return, Gjonaj return, Reverse, Prez Mafia, JDose, Pat, shox, Geechi,

Just off top.

**ass2myface** · 04-20-2018, 11:59 PM

KOTD kind of can't win at this point tbh. If they splurge and get a few top tier cats, they run the chance of them mailing it in for a check. Ala Verb,Rex,ARS, etc.Then peeps bitch that they are name chasing. When they book good talent that will at least show up and put on a good show, they risk getting redundant/ boring, ala the real deal/ cortez's of the world.

And you can't force non active battlers in the ring, see people bitching about this all the time for some reason lol

If three or four decent battles come out of a card at this point, I'm content, it is what it is.

**erfworm** · 04-21-2018, 12:28 AM

The entirety of battle rap is mid-tier now.

**ICeeZeeI** · 04-21-2018, 06:36 AM

if fresco vs bmagic is on this that might be aiiight with me.

**TheGodOfPez** · 04-21-2018, 12:24 PM

Love this card or hate it, I'm gonna be in the building. I've been to 25+ GrindTime events in my day, and I'm looking forward to finally attending a KOTD event.

Anybody else here going? Would be cool to meet a few of you and get a round of shots or 2.

**Shameless** · 04-22-2018, 01:16 AM

There's also the small possibility that you've been watching battles for half your adult life and you're just getting bored

**TheGodOfPez** · 04-22-2018, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Shameless

There's also the small possibility that you've been watching battles for half your adult life and you're just getting bored

Unsure if this was a jab at my post. If so it was pretty weak. You're making it sound like it's a bad thing to be a fan of battle rap. If so, I'm really not sure why you still sign in to your account here and make completely worthless posts like this.

Cheers either way, dude.

**rogermellie** · 04-22-2018, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGodOfPez

Unsure if this was a jab at my post. If so it was pretty weak. You're making it sound like it's a bad thing to be a fan of battle rap. If so, I'm really not sure why you still sign in to your account here and make completely worthless posts like this.

Cheers either way, dude.

I really don't think it was a jab at your post or meant the way you've taken it.

**Shameless** · 04-22-2018, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGodOfPez

Unsure if this was a jab at my post. If so it was pretty weak. You're making it sound like it's a bad thing to be a fan of battle rap. If so, I'm really not sure why you still sign in to your account here and make completely worthless posts like this.

Cheers either way, dude.

it was the jab at the OP posting about "pushing new battlers", i didn't even read your post

pushing things that are new is usually what will continue growth - the problem is that the interest in battle rap is dying out because there are only so many ways to keep battles interesting before the luster to keep watching is gone.

To me, the luster died when associative word play was a thing.

**track 1** · 04-23-2018, 01:22 AM

king of the dot

**Spacelab** · 04-23-2018, 07:21 PM

They did especially well killing the momentum that "Bodied" got

Wins a late-night screening award at TIFF, the whole of Canada reads about it....then the movie is buried and released on a platform nobody knows exists

**StankDaddy** · 04-24-2018, 06:28 AM

URL bites directly from KOTD and spins it to their favour. This comparison is a fucking non starter. Not to mention the audience for URL is ideologically driven and KOTD audience are decent people. Too bad people still get caught up in identity politics. I thought battle rap would've been saved such a ridiculous social cue.

**rogermellie** · 04-24-2018, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by StankDaddy

URL bites directly from KOTD and spins it to their favour. This comparison is a fucking non starter. Not to mention the audience for URL is ideologically driven and KOTD audience are decent people. Too bad people still get caught up in identity politics. I thought battle rap would've been saved such a ridiculous social cue.

Why do you continue to post here, why not join Talkback?