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Old 03-29-2017, 12:15 AM   #161
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organik posted on talkback that "charron gave me a list of 5 battlers. two of which were black.. etc etc"

who do you think were the other four on the list?

iron, diz, caustic, big t....???
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Old 03-29-2017, 02:29 AM   #162
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so now we're acting like being good at rapping gets anyone anywhere in battle rap? funny how i said years before he got any shot that Charron would be the most effective battler and now he is.
that is such a shitty metric to go by.is daylyt trying to shit on stage one of your top 5 rounds of all time because of its "effectiveness?"
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and fuck yeah rapping well gets battlers far. yall are lying to yourselves acting like charron is biger than he is. he isnt a superstar. hes not a huge draw. his gimmicky "effectiveness" has gotten him to a successful mid tier status. nothing more. dudes have gotten further on theirnability tonrapnalone without taking a cornball approach.
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Old 03-29-2017, 02:46 AM   #164
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that is such a shitty metric to go by.is daylyt trying to shit on stage one of your top 5 rounds of all time because of its "effectiveness?"
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Old 03-29-2017, 05:54 AM   #166
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so now we're acting like being good at rapping gets anyone anywhere in battle rap?
Terrible post. You and Pass (The most 'rap' MCs on the card) are on the same card as Charron. Sure, you're not main eventing, but you aren't from around there so that is no surprise. Both you and Pass have a more respectable resume than Charron to boot. If you went to DF or Scrambles with Charron, I guarantee your names would be in a similar position on the flyer.

On the subject of the UK too, Grime MCs like Dialect and Raptor are some of the biggest names there. The rap guys like Tony and Shotty are pretty much their legends.

Rap MCs have to market themselves differently for sure, but where is the evidence for this?!?
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Old 03-30-2017, 12:53 AM   #167
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Terrible post. You and Pass (The most 'rap' MCs on the card) are on the same card as Charron. Sure, you're not main eventing, but you aren't from around there so that is no surprise. Both you and Pass have a more respectable resume than Charron to boot. If you went to DF or Scrambles with Charron, I guarantee your names would be in a similar position on the flyer.

On the subject of the UK too, Grime MCs like Dialect and Raptor are some of the biggest names there. The rap guys like Tony and Shotty are pretty much their legends.

Rap MCs have to market themselves differently for sure, but where is the evidence for this?!?
If you don't like Charrons rapping lets not pretend he hasn't marketed himself very well. I would say right now Charron is a bigger name then Pass and Ness

He's marketed himself to be on URL which would pretty much put him on top tier for most other leagues.
And it's not like he gets small names on any league either

I think he needs to take a break from the Smack battlers. A match up with a Kid Twist would have been a better Black Out match
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Old 03-30-2017, 07:12 AM   #168
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Terrible post. You and Pass (The most 'rap' MCs on the card) are on the same card as Charron. Sure, you're not main eventing, but you aren't from around there so that is no surprise. Both you and Pass have a more respectable resume than Charron to boot. If you went to DF or Scrambles with Charron, I guarantee your names would be in a similar position on the flyer.

On the subject of the UK too, Grime MCs like Dialect and Raptor are some of the biggest names there. The rap guys like Tony and Shotty are pretty much their legends.

Rap MCs have to market themselves differently for sure, but where is the evidence for this?!?
i've also been on the same cards as Hollow. i dont quite get your point. my name would be high up at Scrambles because i'm the first american to battle a south african celebrity there. Charron would go there and get just as much or more love than me
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Old 03-30-2017, 10:31 AM   #169
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It doesn't matter Ness, you spoke to me like YEARS ago on rapmusic.com and so did Soul Khan giving me feedback on the battle Taz Vs Kang Pen, and on one bar alone, "one flick of the wrist would lynch this bitch lame" you said that was enough fire to win the battle that I eventually lost due to a choke in the OT round.

Point being, rapping will always be the number one thing in battle rap. That's what inspires event names such as Back to Basics.

Charron doesn't deserve a battle rapper like Aye Verb, especially with rumors circulating around that he is soon to retire (Verb)

He's a great guy, and when you're a fellow battle rapper it's important to keep things cool for diplomatic purposes but the truth is I know why people don't fuck with him like that cuz I don't. I mean I fucks with em, but not like that man.

You might be feeling different if they gave him Lux next. LOL
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It doesn't matter Ness, you spoke to me like YEARS ago on rapmusic.com and so did Soul Khan giving me feedback on the battle Taz Vs Kang Pen, and on one bar alone, "one flick of the wrist would lynch this bitch lame" you said that was enough fire to win the battle that I eventually lost due to a choke in the OT round.

Point being, rapping will always be the number one thing in battle rap. That's what inspires event names such as Back to Basics.

Charron doesn't deserve a battle rapper like Aye Verb, especially with rumors circulating around that he is soon to retire (Verb)

He's a great guy, and when you're a fellow battle rapper it's important to keep things cool for diplomatic purposes but the truth is I know why people don't fuck with him like that cuz I don't. I mean I fucks with em, but not like that man.

You might be feeling different if they gave him Lux next. LOL
Verb hasn't really been doing the legendary matches

Bonnie and Jimz aint really on what should be Verbs level either

Neither is really on Charrons level either though
Verbs been on some different ish for a bit
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It doesn't matter Ness, you spoke to me like YEARS ago on rapmusic.com and so did Soul Khan giving me feedback on the battle Taz Vs Kang Pen, and on one bar alone, "one flick of the wrist would lynch this bitch lame" you said that was enough fire to win the battle that I eventually lost due to a choke in the OT round.

Point being, rapping will always be the number one thing in battle rap. That's what inspires event names such as Back to Basics.

Charron doesn't deserve a battle rapper like Aye Verb, especially with rumors circulating around that he is soon to retire (Verb)

He's a great guy, and when you're a fellow battle rapper it's important to keep things cool for diplomatic purposes but the truth is I know why people don't fuck with him like that cuz I don't. I mean I fucks with em, but not like that man.

You might be feeling different if they gave him Lux next. LOL
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man he's just not that good in the written format, very sloppy, shock tactic/current event shit, there is a supreme lack of skill in his rapping ability

he's a pretty good freestyler, those off memory alone are the only battles of his i've enjoyed

his image and physique make it ironic for him to battle on mega cards against scary black men, irony sells

the casual fan is not that smart and love cheap thrills imo
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that is such a shitty metric to go by.is daylyt trying to shit on stage one of your top 5 rounds of all time because of its "effectiveness?"
daylyt shitting on stage was effective? i see i see
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It doesn't matter Ness, you spoke to me like YEARS ago on rapmusic.com and so did Soul Khan giving me feedback on the battle Taz Vs Kang Pen, and on one bar alone, "one flick of the wrist would lynch this bitch lame" you said that was enough fire to win the battle that I eventually lost due to a choke in the OT round.

Point being, rapping will always be the number one thing in battle rap. That's what inspires event names such as Back to Basics.

Charron doesn't deserve a battle rapper like Aye Verb, especially with rumors circulating around that he is soon to retire (Verb)

He's a great guy, and when you're a fellow battle rapper it's important to keep things cool for diplomatic purposes but the truth is I know why people don't fuck with him like that cuz I don't. I mean I fucks with em, but not like that man.

You might be feeling different if they gave him Lux next. LOL
that was so long ago i dont even remember what state i lived in when it happened. i wouldnt give a fuck if they gave him lux. no one deserves anything they didnt negotiate. why would i ever worry about what another man deserves or not. because i dont have it?

so if rapping is the number one thing, why are not the best rappers in battle rap top tier? why arent you?
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In the way you're talking, yeah kind of. He's one of the biggest names in battling.
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In the way you're talking, yeah kind of. He's one of the biggest names in battling.
What way am i talking about? Because Charron rapped
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What way am i talking about? Because Charron rapped
you're saying that effective battling = battling that increases your status. daylyt got a ton of exposure by taking a dump and has climbed the ranks since, so how is it not effective?

also, who cares if Charron rapped, right? I thought rapping didn't mean anything
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you're saying that effective battling = battling that increases your status. daylyt got a ton of exposure by taking a dump and has climbed the ranks since, so how is it not effective?

also, who cares if Charron rapped, right? I thought rapping didn't mean anything
you have to battle for something to be considered "effective battling". taking a shit doesn't qualify

and no, i said being a good rapper doesnt mean anything. i use my words specifically
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you have to battle for something to be considered "effective battling". taking a shit doesn't qualify

and no, i said being a good rapper doesnt mean anything. i use my words specifically
What is effective battling?
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i feel like you're doing everything in your power to try not to give Charron any kind of credit b. I find it extremely hard to believe that you dont know what effective battling is
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i feel like you're doing everything in your power to try not to give Charron any kind of credit b. I find it extremely hard to believe that you dont know what effective battling is
the definition of "effective battling" is basically this whole conversation
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i guess. the definition of effective battling is when daylyt says "yall ready" then says a room shaker. or soul khan rapping nothing like he does on his album and having the crowd chant for him. or dna consistently beating people who are "better" than he is. or clips being hailed as a goat while barely trying. or charron's goofy white ass walking into a 98 percent black crowd that for the most part dont fuck with kotd and walking out with a consensus win. or john john being clowned in grindtime for mediocre writing and now being top 20 popular battler in america. all of these peole give every crowd they're in front of exactly what they want. we can break down the psychology of the 2017 crowd if you wish but that's almost an entirely different subject. but this particular crowd runs battle rap and these people's style appeals to them

no amount of complaining about or discrediting these people can change that. yet people constantly do and i really dont get it. if people want a "more talented" battler to be more popular....make them more popular. rally behind them until they get a look. hating on someone who's popularity is beyond opinion does nothing for anyone

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Old 03-31-2017, 06:05 AM   #190
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i guess. the definition of effective battling is when daylyt says "yall ready" then says a room shaker. or soul khan rapping nothing like he does on his album and having the crowd chant for him. or dna consistently beating people who are "better" than he is. or clips being hailed as a goat while barely trying. or charron's goofy white ass walking into a 98 percent black crowd that for the most part dont fuck with kotd and walking out with a consensus win. or john john being clowned in grindtime for mediocre writing and now being top 20 popular battler in america. all of these peole give every crowd they're in front of exactly what they want. we can break down the psychology of the 2017 crowd if you wish but that's almost an entirely different subject. but this particular crowd runs battle rap and these people's style appeals to them

no amount of complaining about or discrediting these people can change that. yet people constantly do and i really dont get it. if people want a "more talented" battler to be more popular....make them more popular. rally behind them until they get a look. hating on someone who's popularity is beyond opinion does nothing for anyone
Yeah... but this is just a forum, which is discourse for the sake of discourse. If you don't like a battler, you talk about how you don't like a battler. It's not like people on here expect that saying "Charron sucks" eight times in the mirror in the morning will make him go away (although I still do it), we just look at that kind of depressing picture you just painted of the nature of battle popularity and call it depressing. 'Cause that's kind of how it sounds. If that's "effective," then "effective" kinda blows most of the time.

Like, this is a place to share opinions -- I also have opinions on what I don't like about shows I watch, food I eat, music I listen to. I don't expect to make any macro-level changes there either. I also don't feel the need to give Big Bang Theory credit for making a shitty show that a lot of people like, because I have absolutely no incentive or reason to. "Well, they certainly met the key demographics and found the right time slot!" is a fucking boring conversation to have. "They get the lowest common denominator goin'!!"

I just don't really get what you're suggesting we do -- subvert our opinions and simply comment that popular stuff sure is popular? Sounds kinda dystopian.

(And please don't do the thing where battlers say that this board never has positive conversations about anyone.)

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Old 03-31-2017, 06:12 AM   #191
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Yeah... but this is just a forum, which is discourse for the sake of discourse. If you don't like a battler, you talk about how you don't like a battler. It's not like people on here expect that saying "Charron sucks" eight times in the mirror in the morning will make him go away (although I still do it), we just look at that kind of depressing picture you just painted of the nature of battle popularity and call it depressing. 'Cause that's kind of how it sounds. If that's "effective," then "effective" kinda blows most of the time.

Like, this is a place to share opinions -- I also have opinions on what I don't like about shows I watch, food I eat, music I listen to. I don't expect to make any macro-level changes there either. I also don't feel the need to give Big Bang Theory credit for making a shitty show that a lot of people like, because I have absolutely no incentive or reason to. "Well, they certainly met the key demographics and found the right time slot!" is a fucking boring conversation to have. "They get the lowest common denominator goin'!!"

I just don't really get what you're suggesting we do -- subvert our opinions and simply comment that popular stuff sure is popular? Sounds kinda dystopian.

(And please don't do the thing where battlers say that this board never has positive conversations about anyone.)

((p.s. check the RMBVA Twitter, I literally tried to form a Joe Powers bandwagon today, lol.))
no i get all of that. but if you expressed that same opinion about that tv show that you dont like, multiple times every time that tv show is mentioned, it becomes obsessive. especially when that tv show is doing well. at some point it just gets old and time consuming when that time can be spent doing something else
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no i get all of that. but if you expressed that same opinion about that tv show that you dont like, multiple times every time that tv show is mentioned, it becomes obsessive. especially when that tv show is doing well. at some point it just gets old and time consuming when that time can be spent doing something else
If TV shows only aired for an eight hour period every few months and they continuously showed The Big Bang Theory I'd absolutely comment on it every time. It's taking up valuable air time.

Also, you're discounting the fact that making fun of Charron is really, really fun.
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Holy shit. You're arguing with Ness Lee about this? Hahahaha. Much to your delight, im going to have to mostly lurk from now on. You guys are fucking nuts. Absolutely nuts.
Not to mention the dudes throwing weight around are some of the fakest pieces of shit i've come across. Is this actually a closeted men's support group for cuckolds or something?

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im going to have to mostly lurk from now on.
Well if StankDaddy is out then I'm out too. Just doesn't seem like much of a point without him to be honest.
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Holy shit. You're arguing with Ness Lee about this? Hahahaha. Much to your delight, im going to have to mostly lurk from now on. You guys are fucking nuts. Absolutely nuts.
Not to mention the dudes throwing weight around are some of the fakest pieces of shit i've come across. Is this actually a closeted men's support group for cuckolds or something?
Why would you not be able to respectfully disagree with a battle rapper, and how does doing so make you a cuck? It seems far worse to be afraid of having a different opinion of someone and put them on a pedestal...

You also make a ton of assumptions on what everyone here is like and who they think they are. I'll have you know that Riffic really is the 7'8" Swahili astrophysics PHD he says he is
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I have no idea what you are perceiving in my posts that would be 'posturing' or 'overcompensation'.....if there's any insight you can offer, i'd enjoy reading that.
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I have no idea what you are perceiving in my posts that would be 'posturing' or 'overcompensation'.....if there's any insight you can offer, i'd enjoy reading that.
You are a shitty poster.
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