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Old 08-08-2020, 05:25 AM   #81
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remember Cage was actually in psych wards for years.
He started that crazy whiteboy medication rap
Em is a sucker
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Old 08-08-2020, 05:28 AM   #82
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Proof (goon/BMF/streets) mixed with Industry (Dre) could be something.
But this is about rap. I only attack Em for flow stealing. Think of Pac's (young black male song) on 2pacalypse. He clearly admitted he ripped off Spice 1's one's flow (a nigga gots no heart) Where is Shady's humility? He clearly is a rip off of the people he surrounded himself with. Will they ever get acknowledged?
There was nothing really special about his flow. All battle rappers (especially Mid-West) were known to rap words fast that didn't rhyme. Em's cadence and subject matter was all stolen mixed with a midwest flow. Not hating whitey. Kanye raps likes consequence but uses his accent to combine words. These people are not that great!
The 90's are often lauded as an era where everyone had a unique style. But as time has gone on it seems like biting is less of a crime. I can't really speak on Em acknowledging those that influenced him. In a way dissing Cage is a way of acknowledging him. But I'm curious if Eminem's Cage disses were in response to Cage and his fans/ associates mocking Eminy for flow stealing. Are you saying Eminem listened to Dubbed Cage tapes in his trailer park home and invented his style based off that or when Eminem was traveling around he bumped into Cage on the circuit, broke bread, and studied his style.
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Cage was an original.
He kinda started rapping about killing people multi-syllabical
you never heard that kind of battle rapper before Cage
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I just went to his wiki page.. says he was born in Germany before moving to New York. I wonder if he is s military child or real European
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The 90's are often lauded as an era where everyone had a unique style. But as time has gone on it seems like biting is less of a crime. I can't really speak on Em acknowledging those that influenced him. In a way dissing Cage is a way of acknowledging him. But I'm curious if Eminem's Cage disses were in response to Cage and his fans/ associates mocking Eminy for flow stealing. Are you saying Eminem listened to Dubbed Cage tapes in his trailer park home and invented his style based off that or when Eminem was traveling around he bumped into Cage on the circuit, broke bread, and studied his style.
Man....
Em slept on sofas, airbeds, in NY and NJ to be close to Cage. Cage was a white guy with street cred and a charlie manson type. That horror core midwest/ICP shit is real out there. Em wanted to be Pacewon/Cage coming up. Self-Depreciating rap style but killing their opponent also (Hi Bashir)
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I just went to his wiki page.. says he was born in Germany before moving to New York. I wonder if he is s military child or real European
Germany. than upstate NY
a real crazy fuck (who is that white nigga that used to shit on stage? my nigga GG)
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Marshall kinda jacked his story. Em used to wanna be Nas (infinite)
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Not sure what you mean. I'll buy that Eminem bit Cage's style. I'm saying that I knew of Eminem doing it before I knew of Cage doing it. And when I got into Cage I liked him but his work blurred with the other Smut Peddlers and Eastern Conference.. so I don't really see him as an individual. I'm in the US lol
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Em slept on sofas, airbeds, in NY and NJ to be close to Cage. Cage was a white guy with street cred and a charlie manson type. That horror core midwest/ICP shit is real out there. Em wanted to be Pacewon/Cage coming up. Self-Depreciating rap style but killing their opponent also (Hi Bashir)
That's crazy.. did Cage know of Eminem when he was sleeping on sofas. Are you talking pre-Eminem doing "Any Man" on Soundbombiing?
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Not sure what you mean. I'll buy that Eminem bit Cage's style. I'm saying that I knew of Eminem doing it before I knew of Cage doing it. And when I got into Cage I liked him but his work blurred with the other Smut Peddlers and Eastern Conference.. so I don't really see him as an individual. I'm in the US lol
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That's crazy.. did Cage know of Eminem when he was sleeping on sofas. Are you talking pre-Eminem doing "Any Man" on Soundbombiing?
pre EM before the Illuminati
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He omitted every single rapper we've all compared Eminem to in this thread, but here's Eminem paying homage to his influences.
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He omitted every single rapper we've all compared Eminem to in this thread, but here's Eminem paying homage to his influences.
presient link.. I've heard him mention Kool g rap a couple of times. No mention of Cage hmmm
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women now are throwing me pussy knowing my situation.
They are only here to fuck yo- your life up bro.
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presient link.. I've heard him mention Kool g rap a couple of times. No mention of Cage hmmm
I can detect Kool G Rap, Rakim and Treach's influence from a technical perspective and NWA's influence from a thematic perspective. But you can tell that all the other inclusions were just rappers he respected, rather than people he's a very direct derivative from.

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Not sure what you mean. I'll buy that Eminem bit Cage's style. I'm saying that I knew of Eminem doing it before I knew of Cage doing it. And when I got into Cage I liked him but his work blurred with the other Smut Peddlers and Eastern Conference.. so I don't really see him as an individual. I'm in the US lol

It's questionable. I don't remember anyone really talking about Cage until Movies for the Blind came out and that buzz was after Eminem's.I also don't think that style is as unique as Cage claims. As many people have pointed out KoolG Rap did it on Talk Like Sex, for example. Hell even Biggie played with a similar style on Ready to Die. It seems like after Eminem blew that Cage suddenly became obsessed and honestly I think it cost him.
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But I'm curious if Eminem's Cage disses were in response to Cage and his fans/ associates mocking Eminy for flow stealing.
Honestly I think it was the fact that Em blew up. With both of them on the circuit at the same time,I get the feeling that if Cage had blown, it would have been Eminem's fans calling him a biter.
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Haha! M&M-era Eminem. You can really hear the Treach influence on this one.

You can kinda hear the Eminem that M&M would come on Backstabber though. He doesn't have the humor yet, but the rest sounds like a raw Eminem.
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But Townhouse no matter what is still supporting the Nabisco Heebie Geebie (Marshall) here.
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Honestly I think it was the fact that Em blew up. With both of them on the circuit at the same time,I get the feeling that if Cage had blown, it would have been Eminem's fans calling him a biter.
That's more in line with how I remember things
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It's questionable. I don't remember anyone really talking about Cage until Movies for the Blind came out and that buzz was after Eminem's.I also don't think that style is as unique as Cage claims. As many people have pointed out KoolG Rap did it on Talk Like Sex, for example. Hell even Biggie played with a similar style on Ready to Die. It seems like after Eminem blew that Cage suddenly became obsessed and honestly I think it cost him.
Is Movies for the Blind good?

Well it was just said that Cage was in mental institutions so that can be an indicator of someone who'd become obsessive
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i feel like i've heard Cage's dad shot his mom in front of Cage or some crazy shit like that, probably reason enough to become a mental case. but yeah seeing a dude who was doing the same thing as you (in Cage's perception anyway) blow the FUCK up while nothing much happens for you gotta suck too.
You can read about it in the Phoenix New Times article:

https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/music/cage-6399847

He didn't kill the mother, but was so based up on H that he held them all at gunpoint.

Cage's bad luck is just weird to read about, they tried to make a movie about it, but it was probably too unbelievable...
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Is Movies for the Blind good?

Well it was just said that Cage was in mental institutions so that can be an indicator of someone who'd become obsessive
In my honest opinion, it's too all over the place to be a classic. I also find Cage's vocal style a little grating after a few songs. It has some crazy moments though. I remember when Agent Orange with those Clockwork Orange stylings came out with that insane chorus:


Honestly, though Agent Orange is the only track that still gets play on that album at least for me.

You can, however, hear why he accused Eminem of biting him on the second verse of Teenage Death:


However, if you compare Teenage Death (Which was later) with the style that Cage used on Agent Orange, you can hear that Cage himself switched up his style too. So who influenced who is kinda the question.

Honestly, I could believe that Eminem heard Cage and thought that if he took that style to an extreme and chucked in a ton of multis, it would make something new. Eminem was far more memorable for everyone. I'd heard the Agent Orange single, but still remember buying everything I could get my hands on of Eminem when he first came out.

That's often the way in hiphop as one rapper opens the door, only to see no dough and someone else to blow up.
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In my honest opinion, it's too all over the place to be a classic. I also find Cage's vocal style a little grating after a few songs. It has some crazy moments though. I remember when Agent Orange with those Clockwork Orange stylings came out with that insane chorus:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rh0c-ws8ZM

Honestly, though Agent Orange is the only track that still gets play on that album at least for me.

You can, however, hear why he accused Eminem of biting him on the second verse of Teenage Death:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwbmN9mo0t8

However, if you compare Teenage Death (Which was later) with the style that Cage used on Agent Orange, you can hear that Cage himself switched up his style too. So who influenced who is kinda the question.

Honestly, I could believe that Eminem heard Cage and thought that if he took that style to an extreme and chucked in a ton of multis, it would make something new. Eminem was far more memorable for everyone. I'd heard the Agent Orange single, but still remember buying everything I could get my hands on of Eminem when he first came out.

That's often the way in hiphop as one rapper opens the door, only to see no dough and someone else to blow up.
The YouTube comments a good in that video. Someone days Em & Cage were both influenced by Redman's early style. I've heard Eminem pay homage to Redman in the past . Thanks for the link
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