[Carl Spackler]

I'm not trying to take sides in any of this cause tbh its pretty wack all around, but it kills me that kotd doesn't want this to reflect their brand when it pretty much is a perfect representation of what their about, or at least what they were about before everything shifted towards American talent.

Maybe this will be the final straw and all active canadian battlers(minus Pat) get relegated to GZ.

[TonySharks]

5* THREAD stop downgrading it you fucking butt hurt pussy's

[Abstrakt]

Vice is like the pitchfork media of news

Charron and hfk are NOT hip

... Neither is the word "hip"

[Nabisco]

Does anyone here actually like or respect Bishop?

If he weren't associated with KOTD, I wouldn't know him from Adam. Literally never heard of him in the US before I got into battling years ago.

He talks about what's best for the brand, yet every single live PPV I watch he's drunk, rambling on the mic, and talking shit to all the fans who paid and came out to support his brand.

And now attempting to blame the fans for the backlash they're receiving from KOTD's own dumbass mistake.

Dude's a joke.

[TonySharks]

Originally Posted by Nabisco

Does anyone here actually like or respect Bishop?

If he weren't associated with KOTD, I wouldn't know him from Adam. Literally never heard of him in the US before I got into battling years ago.

He talks about what's best for the brand, yet every single live PPV I watch he's drunk, rambling on the mic, and talking shit to all the fans who paid and came out to support his brand.

And now attempting to blame the fans for the backlash they're receiving from KOTD's own dumbass mistake.

Dude's a joke.

FACTZ

[Casual]

Originally Posted by Nabisco

Does anyone here actually like or respect Bishop?

If he weren't associated with KOTD, I wouldn't know him from Adam. Literally never heard of him in the US before I got into battling years ago.

He talks about what's best for the brand, yet every single live PPV I watch he's drunk, rambling on the mic, and talking shit to all the fans who paid and came out to support his brand.

And now attempting to blame the fans for the backlash they're receiving from KOTD's own dumbass mistake.

Dude's a joke.

If you're from anywhere around Toronto and grew up listening to rap you know Bishop. He came up at a time when it was impossible for Canadians to get exposure elsewhere though so I don't expect anyone not from the area to really know him.

I can understand not liking the persona he has on cam, but trust me, he's big for KOTD.

Remember when he left KOTD for a bit? The events they were throwing in his absence? It's not entirely a coincidence that the quality dropped off.

[Casual]

Made it to the front page of Toronto reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/toronto/com...ngeworthy_rap/

[Abstrakt]

Seanzo layeth the smacketh down

Nagl for organik

[Casual]

How long have I been saying Charron is the worst possible look for KOTD????
@Bishop Brigante this dude will be the demise of a great company if you guys don't cut ties soon. Bad look for white people everywhere.

[Casual]

[Nabisco]

Originally Posted by Casual

If you're from anywhere around Toronto and grew up listening to rap you know Bishop. He came up at a time when it was impossible for Canadians to get exposure elsewhere though so I don't expect anyone not from the area to really know him.

I can understand not liking the persona he has on cam, but trust me, he's big for KOTD.

Remember when he left KOTD for a bit? The events they were throwing in his absence? It's not entirely a coincidence that the quality dropped off.

I'm from North Carolina so that probably explains my limited exposure to him.

It does seem like he's important when it comes to the events but my man also comes off as an arrogant prick like 90% of the time.

Not doubting his influence on the scene but where's the professionalism?

In Beasley's latest BattleRap.com interview, he says something like "I'm not working tonight so I'm drinking and having some fun..." Insinuating when URL throws their big events he's busting his ass, taking things seriously etc.

Then you have KOTD throwing their annual "Blackout" event named after Bishop and the inevitable 25 gin and tonics he'll drink before threatening to fight the audience and Organik having to tell him to shut-up continuously.

Not a good look IMO.

[JAR]

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

I'm not trying to take sides in any of this cause tbh its pretty wack all around, but it kills me that kotd doesn't want this to reflect their brand when it pretty much is a perfect representation of what their about, or at least what they were about before everything shifted towards American talent.

THIS 1000%!!!!!!!!! Dead on man! This was completely 2009 - 2012, until mostly the Fresh Coast took over and they shifted from Canadian artists being in KOTD but now are all relegated to GZ. Although it's a "separate" league, isn't GZ under the KOTD brand? Because this is exactly how GZ battles are. Fucking dead on man.

I saw nothing to apologize other than it was on a television show that can't have that type of content, but it 1000% represents the KOTD brand of battles.

[mapleleaf]

Originally Posted by Nabisco

I'm from North Carolina so that probably explains my limited exposure to him.

It does seem like he's important when it comes to the events but my man also comes off as an arrogant prick like 90% of the time.

Not doubting his influence on the scene but where's the professionalism?

In Beasley's latest BattleRap.com interview, he says something like "I'm not working tonight so I'm drinking and having some fun..." Insinuating when URL throws their big events he's busting his ass, taking things seriously etc.

Then you have KOTD throwing their annual "Blackout" event named after Bishop and the inevitable 25 gin and tonics he'll drink before threatening to fight the audience and Organik having to tell him to shut-up continuously.

Not a good look IMO.

I like the perspective but I'm gonna go ahead and say that KOTD had guys like Avi Rex who are probably more similar to Beasley who are more behind the scenes and professional. Smack drinks on stage pretty regularly doesn't he?

Not saying you don't have a point- cuz if I ran an event I'd probably want to be all business no partying but I just wouldn't really compare bishop to Beasley

[Abstrakt]

This is kind of just funny... Organik must've been on like a 3 day binge or something cause dude doesn't know wtf he be talkin biut

[brodeezy]

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

I'm not trying to take sides in any of this cause tbh its pretty wack all around, but it kills me that kotd doesn't want this to reflect their brand when it pretty much is a perfect representation of what their about, or at least what they were about before everything shifted towards American talent.

Maybe this will be the final straw and all active canadian battlers(minus Pat) get relegated to GZ.

smh this is the realist shit ever

[brodeezy]

also lmaooo @ whoever uploaded it after HFK took it down from that other rmbva thread . homie got himself 78,000 views.

[BOLDYIN]

This whole shit reminds me of that family guy episode where brian goes on tv with his book and gets slated and crumbles

They should at least stand by their shit even if it wasnt a good look

They should just use pat for this shit, my aunt can watch pat and dig it

[Prelec]

@OrganikHipHop why are you ignoring us!! I know you read every single word in this thread

[Nabisco]

Originally Posted by mapleleaf

I like the perspective but I'm gonna go ahead and say that KOTD had guys like Avi Rex who are probably more similar to Beasley who are more behind the scenes and professional. Smack drinks on stage pretty regularly doesn't he?

Not saying you don't have a point- cuz if I ran an event I'd probably want to be all business no partying but I just wouldn't really compare bishop to Beasley

You're right... Got the gist of the point I was trying to make though haha

[TheRealDetour]

am i the only one not surprised that a report titled "most cringeworthy rap battle in history" would have the names HKF and/or charron in it?

[mapleleaf]

Originally Posted by Nabisco

You're right... Got the gist of the point I was trying to make though haha

exaxtly. but I'll also say if everyone in battle rap was more like beasly, it would be a much better place lol

[TheRealDetour]

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

I'm not trying to take sides in any of this cause tbh its pretty wack all around, but it kills me that kotd doesn't want this to reflect their brand when it pretty much is a perfect representation of what their about, or at least what they were about before everything shifted towards American talent.

Maybe this will be the final straw and all active canadian battlers(minus Pat) get relegated to GZ.

amen...tbh this is still the KOTD brand, cuz its still what most of the canadian battlers rap like...u cant say charlie clips an kg the poet an cortez an john john are KOTD's brand, cuz they're not...

an i agree with what was said before too, that KOTD shouldnt be threatening to ban people from their group if they dont agree to bury this an never speal of it again...

here's an idea @OrganikHipHop - IF U DONT WANT PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT UR TERRIBLE EVENT THEN DONT THROW TERRIBLE EVENTS IN THE FIRST PLACE! novel idea, i know, but take it from me, i threw an event that turned out shitty once...but instead of threatening people for bringing it up i did this really weird thing called learning from your mistakes an moving on...u should try it sometime...

besides, how a 6 AM local news rap battle between HFK an charron, of all the names u couldve chosen, got approved by anyone on ur staff is light years beyond me...

[ghettonetics]

i think this might have destroyed any chance kotd had of becoming mainstream in canada, maybe everywhere in the world. god damn organik u fucked up bad here.

[ghettonetics]

u couldnt have, idk, illmac, the champion and top tier rapper in the world go up there and spit a little verse....or like someone else said in another thread 100 bulletz....bender...kid twist...chedda cheese...ANYONE else than two dudes that are known for making stupid childish jokes constantly in all of their raps, and they cant even flow at all......what a horrible decision

[Casual]

Originally Posted by ghettonetics

u couldnt have, idk, illmac, the champion and top tier rapper in the world go up there and spit a little verse....or like someone else said in another thread 100 bulletz....bender...kid twist...chedda cheese...ANYONE else than two dudes that are known for making stupid childish jokes constantly in all of their raps, and they cant even flow at all......what a horrible decision

He said in the other thread it was 12 hours notice. Pretty much all those dudes have lives except Bulletz who takes at least 1 week to write a crappy associative wordplay round. I feel like Twist probably wouldn't want to do this type of thing, it doesn't really benefit him considering he actually battles as a hobby, plus isn't he in journalism? This type of look could be bad considering the industry is kinda small. The rest live pretty far from Toronto I think.

Charron is a battle rap lifer and hfk lives in the area, so unfortunately it's what he had to go with.

Considering Ganik doesn't book HFK for real KOTD battles and seems to have come around to the fact that Charron sucks, I highly doubt they were his first choices in a perfect world.

But yes, you're right...putting two dudes who have never been good for anything but rewriting mom and dick jokes they googled on this show ain't the best decision.

[ghettonetics]

Originally Posted by Casual

He said in the other thread it was 12 hours notice. Pretty much all those dudes have lives except Bulletz who takes at least 1 week to write a crappy associative wordplay round. I feel like Twist probably wouldn't want to do this type of thing, it doesn't really benefit him considering he actually battles as a hobby, plus isn't he in journalism? This type of look could be bad considering the industry is kinda small. The rest live pretty far from Toronto I think.

Charron is a battle rap lifer and hfk lives in the area, so unfortunately it's what he had to go with.

Considering Ganik doesn't book HFK for real KOTD battles and seems to have come around to the fact that Charron sucks, I highly doubt they were his first choices in a perfect world.

haha this makes more sense, in my ignorant mind canada is just canada and every canadian should be available to be anywhere at any time lmfao.but god damn...i know kotd has to have more guys around toronto that are better and willing to do something like this right?

[brodeezy]

reiterating my question as to why a battle had to even go down on that kind of notice. why not just do a regular interview. if your last resort is to have hfk and charron show up for a battle.. its better to scrap that idea and just take on a regular fuckin interview lmao

[ghettonetics]

Originally Posted by brodeezy

reiterating my question as to why a battle had to even go down on that kind of notice. why not just do a regular interview. if your last resort is to have hfk and charron show up for a battle.. its better to scrap that idea and just take on a regular fuckin interview lmao

right? i was just thinking this too...just dont go through with it if this is what ur gonna bring. its a fun idea but when these are the dudes ur bringing to the table its just plain not worth it

[ghettonetics]

but hey, any publicity is good publicity right???????? ................right.....?

[brodeezy]

Originally Posted by ghettonetics

but hey, any publicity is good publicity right???????? ................right.....?

idk but i just read the tags and found out i had a white cock

anyone savage enough to.. you know..

[Anti]

Originally Posted by brodeezy

idk but i just read the tags and found out i had a white cock

anyone savage enough to.. you know..

It's not gay; HFK said so and I think this round certifies him as battle rap's fellatio expert.

[VillageRam]

Originally Posted by Prelec

@OrganikHipHop why are you ignoring us!! I know you read every single word in this thread

this tbh

[VillageRam]

Originally Posted by Casual

He said in the other thread it was 12 hours notice. Pretty much all those dudes have lives except Bulletz who takes at least 1 week to write a crappy associative wordplay round. I feel like Twist probably wouldn't want to do this type of thing, it doesn't really benefit him considering he actually battles as a hobby, plus isn't he in journalism? This type of look could be bad considering the industry is kinda small. The rest live pretty far from Toronto I think.

Charron is a battle rap lifer and hfk lives in the area, so unfortunately it's what he had to go with.

Considering Ganik doesn't book HFK for real KOTD battles and seems to have come around to the fact that Charron sucks, I highly doubt they were his first choices in a perfect world.

But yes, you're right...putting two dudes who have never been good for anything but rewriting mom and dick jokes they googled on this show ain't the best decision.

you guys are right. what a dumb choice!
if Organik had any charm or skills at all he could have set up a canned "battle" between himself and the host where he fed her her lines before hand. It could have actually been a fun segment.

keep it simple, stupid.

[Emancee]

Why didn't Organik get the host to throw random words at Charron and let him freestyle off them? It would impress people watching and it would work to the one thing that Corey is good at,

[brodeezy]

Originally Posted by Emancee

Why didn't Organik get the host to throw random words at Charron and let him freestyle off them? It would impress people watching and it would work to the one thing that Corey is good at,

basically, what it boils down to is..



why is KOTD doing things without consulting RMBVA first?

[riffic]

Originally Posted by brodeezy

basically, what it boils down to is..



why is KOTD doing things without consulting RMBVA first?

there's no excuse tbh

[Wolfpac187]

Would it not have been better to just not do the shit instead of having two people that fucking suck represent your brand???

[KellyBetz of NoCoast]

No press is bad press

[SpecialOh]

Originally Posted by KellyBetz of NoCoast

No press is bad press

i just got off the phone will bill cosby and he told me to tell kelly betz hes full of shit and to stop smoking rock