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Old 11-11-2016, 10:09 PM   #161
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I don't really use the term that much, but to me a SJW is someone who doesn't really give a fuck about the actual cause that they're trumpeting, but are simply espousing their ideas to be seen doing it. It's completely self-serving bullshit that's all about them. Paris gets attacked, they need to be seen with a French flag in their profile picture, Pulse nightclub, now it's gay rights which are sacrosanct. If it was just a concern about social justice which made you an SJW, all great civil rights leaders would be, and I think that would miss the point of the term.
So what do you call someone who really does "give a fuck" about a cause. Because I give a fuck.

And how do you tell the difference between them and a SJW?
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Way I see it, SJWs are the kind of people who'd rather condescend and antagonize people for mistakes large and small, rather than educate or fight for real policy that makes positive changes. Policing people's language on the internet and expecting everyone to know the terminology as soon as it's thought of...and generally just wanting to be seen to be making change instead of actually making it.

It's easier, and less dangerous, to go off on someone for saying "chairman" and assuming gender identity than it is to face down a skinhead or keep police from thinking black men are inherently dangerous. For example.

If you give a fuck, you won't give a fuck who knows whether or not you give a fuck.
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So what do you call someone who really does "give a fuck" about a cause. Because I give a fuck.

And how do you tell the difference between them and a SJW?
I dunno, a person who believes heavily in their ideals. The difference is usually transparent, though I guess not always. Like I said though, I rarely use the word as I think it's usually just something right wing people say to not actually have to address the point being made.
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Way I see it, SJWs are the kind of people who'd rather condescend and antagonize people for mistakes large and small, rather than educate or fight for real policy that makes positive changes. Policing people's language on the internet and expecting everyone to know the terminology as soon as it's thought of...and generally just wanting to be seen to be making change instead of actually making it.

It's easier, and less dangerous, to go off on someone for saying "chairman" and assuming gender identity than it is to face down a skinhead or keep police from thinking black men are inherently dangerous. For example.

If you give a fuck, you won't give a fuck who knows whether or not you give a fuck.
Except for that when everyone who cares about a fair and just society gets labeled a SJW it ends the dialogue. It's dismissive of the actual issue at hand.

That's why I consider people who call others SJWs to be SJWs themselves. They don't seem to care about anything expect for shutting down the pesky SJWs. Condescending, antagonizing... They're using the same tactics. At least the SJWs care about something larger than themselves.
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I dunno, a person who believes heavily in their ideals. The difference is usually transparent, though I guess not always. Like I said though, I rarely use the word as I think it's usually just something right wing people say to not actually have to address the point being made.
I think the same thing, more or less, but it doesn't serve their point well to admit that, I guess
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Except for that when everyone who cares about a fair and just society gets labeled a SJW it ends the dialogue. It's dismissive of the actual issue at hand.

That's why I consider people who call others SJWs to be SJWs themselves. They don't seem to care about anything expect for shutting down the pesky SJWs. Condescending, antagonizing... They're using the same tactics. At least the SJWs care about something larger than themselves.
That there is a core of people dedicated to getting us to "be quiet" about injustice, ironically because they don't like the words we're saying to them is funny to me. To be called a SJW to me means the person lobbing it as an insult is a cretin who thinks I should conform to how they want to be spoken to.

To which I always say fuck you, speak to these hands, nigga. We at war.
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I can't speak to your sense of humor, but I'm really confused by what people even mean when they say "hipster SJWs" nowadays. I'd be interested in seeing anyone make sense of this without resorting to being petty.

It's almost as if you're saying that are no actual social injustices or that there's no one who actually has to deal with a society that is oppressive and discriminatory to minorities, but instead, there's only a bunch of entitled assholes who are complaining on behalf of people who don't exist. That's not what you mean, right? You don't really believe that everyone who is in favor of a more socially just society is some privileged hipster, do you? Because I promise you that most minorities don't fit into that category. Do you think that minorities don't care about social justice? Lol. That said, I actually appreciate that there are people who may be higher in social hierarchy (for superficial reasons, mind you) that still concern themselves with a more fair society for all people. Some consider them allies, and they are instrumental in some movements, especially when they can be identified as part of the majority. When people call others "SJWs" it sounds like an insult to me as if they think that social justice is a bad thing. I'm very confused by that.

Also, why are we not calling anti-PC, alt-right people "SJWs" as well? They're fighting against social justice, so wouldn't that make them "SJWs" also? If not, then why?
Oh I didn't mean to downplay the very real social injustices that plague Western Civilization. I just think a lot of the hardcore progressives are too uncompromising to understand that various conservative tenets might actually be constructive. For instance, progressives oppose drug laws. Whilst the "Drug War" is a disaster, drugs and alcohol ruin the lives of users and their families, and none of these poisons should be anywhere near so accessible imo, in fact these progressives glamourize these mind altering chemicals. They oppose the 2nd amendment, when a firearm is the most effective self-defence equipment. In England we're so densely populated, overpopulation's constraining our infrastructure and public services, so immigration must be controlled, but even though I expressed that diplomatically without demonizing migrants, the Champagne socialists would denounce me as xenophobic. Immigration isn't a problem for the USA, you've got immense geographical space to move around. I could go on & on, but in a nutshell I don't think someone is a bully because they think "All Lives Matter" and are a bit folksy & traditionalist, but factions of the ultra left are disdaining them as if they're bullies.
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Oh I didn't mean to downplay the very real social injustices that plague Western Civilization. I just think a lot of the hardcore progressives are too uncompromising to understand that various conservative tenets might actually be constructive. For instance, progressives oppose drug laws. Whilst the "Drug War" is a disaster, drugs and alcohol ruin the lives of users and their families, and none of these poisons should be anywhere near so accessible imo, in fact these progressives glamourize these mind altering chemicals. They oppose the 2nd amendment, when a firearm is the most effective self-defence equipment. In England we're so densely populated, overpopulation's constraining our infrastructure and public services, so immigration must be controlled, but even though I expressed that diplomatically without demonizing migrants, the Champagne socialists would denounce me as xenophobic. Immigration isn't a problem for the USA, you've got immense geographical space to move around. I could go on & on, but in a nutshell I don't think someone is a bully because they think "All Lives Matter" and are a bit folksy & traditionalist, but factions of the ultra left are disdaining them as if they're bullies.


The statistics on drugs do not even remotely back up what you are saying. Legalisation and harm reduction is the only sensible option
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That there is a core of people dedicated to getting us to "be quiet" about injustice, ironically because they don't like the words we're saying to them is funny to me. To be called a SJW to me means the person lobbing it as an insult is a cretin who thinks I should conform to how they want to be spoken to.

To which I always say fuck you, speak to these hands, nigga. We at war.
It's super crazy. They really want us to just shut up. People are only gonna turn up even more now.
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I don't really use the term that much, but to me a SJW is someone who doesn't really give a fuck about the actual cause that they're trumpeting, but are simply espousing their ideas to be seen doing it. It's completely self-serving bullshit that's all about them. Paris gets attacked, they need to be seen with a French flag in their profile picture, Pulse nightclub, now it's gay rights which are sacrosanct. If it was just a concern about social justice which made you an SJW, all great civil rights leaders would be, and I think that would miss the point of the term.
That's fine that it means that to you, but let's be real about it. There are a bunch of people who like things the way they are and don't give a shit about people who are worse off because they don't care about how the system works for other people as long as it works for them. "SJWs" are annoying not because the causes are insincere, but because they are reminding these people of stuff they don't want to think about. It's much easier to discredit the messenger, which we saw in full action when Kaep was taking a knee.

Brief aside, when people were saying Kaep should have had a more respectful protest, what they meant was Kaep should have done something that they could easily ignore so they wouldn't be forced to confront the issues he was addressing.

I'd also point out that these people tend to project their lack of interest in the well-being of others and assume that none of these other white/male/straight people can truly give a shit about issues that don't affect them, so they mock them and ask "if you really cared, why...".

Whenever you see a term like "white knight" in use, understand the mentality that created it. Some people cannot fathom caring about someone less fortunate than them and thus believe the worst about someone who does (just doing it to get laid, etc.)

Are there some weirdos out there that "try to make a difference" for the wrong reasons? Sure. Do anti-social justice people take these teenager/troll Tumblr accounts and blow them out of proportion and make this into an epidemic of fake concern that mostly doesn't exist? Absolutely.
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That's fine that it means that to you, but let's be real about it. There are a bunch of people who like things the way they are and don't give a shit about people who are worse off because they don't care about how the system works for other people as long as it works for them. "SJWs" are annoying not because the causes are insincere, but because they are reminding these people of stuff they don't want to think about. It's much easier to discredit the messenger, which we saw in full action when Kaep was taking a knee.

Brief aside, when people were saying Kaep should have had a more respectful protest, what they meant was Kaep should have done something that they could easily ignore so they wouldn't be forced to confront the issues he was addressing.

I'd also point out that these people tend to project their lack of interest in the well-being of others and assume that none of these other white/male/straight people can truly give a shit about issues that don't affect them, so they mock them and ask "if you really cared, why...".

Whenever you see a term like "white knight" in use, understand the mentality that created it. Some people cannot fathom caring about someone less fortunate than them and thus believe the worst about someone who does (just doing it to get laid, etc.)

Are there some weirdos out there that "try to make a difference" for the wrong reasons? Sure. Do anti-social justice people take these teenager/troll Tumblr accounts and blow them out of proportion and make this into an epidemic of fake concern that mostly doesn't exist? Absolutely.
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Oh I didn't mean to downplay the very real social injustices that plague Western Civilization. I just think a lot of the hardcore progressives are too uncompromising to understand that various conservative tenets might actually be constructive. For instance, progressives oppose drug laws. Whilst the "Drug War" is a disaster, drugs and alcohol ruin the lives of users and their families, and none of these poisons should be anywhere near so accessible imo, in fact these progressives glamourize these mind altering chemicals. They oppose the 2nd amendment, when a firearm is the most effective self-defence equipment. In England we're so densely populated, overpopulation's constraining our infrastructure and public services, so immigration must be controlled, but even though I expressed that diplomatically without demonizing migrants, the Champagne socialists would denounce me as xenophobic. Immigration isn't a problem for the USA, you've got immense geographical space to move around. I could go on & on, but in a nutshell I don't think someone is a bully because they think "All Lives Matter" and are a bit folksy & traditionalist, but factions of the ultra left are disdaining them as if they're bullies.
Okay, I hear you. I really don't think opposing drug laws is just a leftist idea, tho. I've known quite a few people who don't identify as progressive that are in favor looking at reforming drug laws. In fact, a lot of the conservative/alt-right people I've known have been either prescription or elicit drug users, themselves. I also don't believe that progressives are opposed to the second amendment, they just are for stricter laws. I'll have to take your word for how things are in your country on immigration. It's one thing to read about stuff online or see it in the news, and it's a completely different thing to actually live there, I'm sure.

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Pretty much breaks down why Trump won.
This is not balanced, at all, and the message to encourage debate and dialogue is very disingenuous. I mean he lays all the responsibility on the left, but when so many people right (aka: the majority) want to blame all of their problems on black people, mexican people, jewish people, muslim people, women, transgender people, gay people, etc, and then call anyone who challenges them a "cuck" or "SJW", especially considering that these are all minority groups, then a meaningful conversation isn't likely because they've adopted a completely unreasonable persecution complex. It's almost as if they think equality is oppressive to straight white men.

I'd be an ignorant fool to say that there aren't some "SJWs" who take it way farther than it needs to go, and I imagine that that can be pretty annoying and inconvenient. No "but" about that, that probably does get on some white guy's nerves, I think I get it. I'm black man in america, believe me when I tell you that I know what it like to feel as if society is fucking with you and won't allow you to just be yourself without being judged. I kinda just gotta deal with it.

I still don't believe that this was a balanced argument meant to appeal to all people, I think it was telling white trump supporter guys what they wanted to hear. And also, this guy is a comedian. Kinda bothers me that people look at comedians nowadays as philosophers or experts on social matters. They're social satirists, maybe, but they're not sociologists or social scientists. They'll take something like this and people will act like it's gospel (because it's what they wanted to hear), but then they say a bunch of wild offensive shit or promote hate against a minority group, and those same people will say "calm down, it's just a joke" and "it's not meant to be taken seriously". It's a huge cop out.

I'd like to think Noam Chomsky had a better take on how and why trump won:

“The United States is extremely lucky that no honest, charismatic figure has arisen,” Chomsky went on. “Every charismatic figure is such an obvious crook that he destroys himself, like McCarthy or Nixon or the evangelist preachers. If somebody comes along who is charismatic and honest this country is in real trouble because of the frustration, disillusionment, the justified anger and the absence of any coherent response. What are people supposed to think if someone says ‘I have got an answer, we have an enemy’? There it was the Jews. Here it will be the illegal immigrants and the blacks. We will be told that white males are a persecuted minority. We will be told we have to defend ourselves and the honor of the nation. Military force will be exalted. People will be beaten up. This could become an overwhelming force. And if it happens it will be more dangerous than Germany. The United States is the world power. Germany was powerful but had more powerful antagonists. I don’t think all this is very far away. If the polls are accurate it is not the Republicans but the right-wing Republicans, the crazed Republicans, who will sweep the next election.”
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/..._20100419/P500
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This is not balanced, at all, and the message to encourage debate and dialogue is very disingenuous. I mean he lays all the responsibility on the left, but when so many people right (aka: the majority) want to blame all of their problems on black people, mexican people, jewish people, muslim people, women, transgender people, gay people, etc, and then call anyone who challenges them a "cuck" or "SJW", especially considering that these are all minority groups, then a meaningful conversation isn't likely because they've adopted a completely unreasonable persecution complex. It's almost as if they think equality is oppressive to straight white men.

I'd be an ignorant fool to say that there aren't some "SJWs" who take it way farther than it needs to go, and I imagine that that can be pretty annoying and inconvenient. No "but" about that, that probably does get on some white guy's nerves, I think I get it. I'm black man in america, believe me when I tell you that I know what it like to feel as if society is fucking with you and won't allow you to just be yourself without being judged. I kinda just gotta deal with it.

I still don't believe that this was a balanced argument meant to appeal to all people, I think it was telling white trump supporter guys what they wanted to hear. And also, this guy is a comedian. Kinda bothers me that people look at comedians nowadays as philosophers or experts on social matters. They're social satirists, maybe, but they're not sociologists or social scientists. They'll take something like this and people will act like it's gospel (because it's what they wanted to hear), but then they say a bunch of wild offensive shit or promote hate against a minority group, and those same people will say "calm down, it's just a joke" and "it's not meant to be taken seriously". It's a huge cop out.

I'd like to think Noam Chomsky had a better take on how and why trump won:

“The United States is extremely lucky that no honest, charismatic figure has arisen,” Chomsky went on. “Every charismatic figure is such an obvious crook that he destroys himself, like McCarthy or Nixon or the evangelist preachers. If somebody comes along who is charismatic and honest this country is in real trouble because of the frustration, disillusionment, the justified anger and the absence of any coherent response. What are people supposed to think if someone says ‘I have got an answer, we have an enemy’? There it was the Jews. Here it will be the illegal immigrants and the blacks. We will be told that white males are a persecuted minority. We will be told we have to defend ourselves and the honor of the nation. Military force will be exalted. People will be beaten up. This could become an overwhelming force. And if it happens it will be more dangerous than Germany. The United States is the world power. Germany was powerful but had more powerful antagonists. I don’t think all this is very far away. If the polls are accurate it is not the Republicans but the right-wing Republicans, the crazed Republicans, who will sweep the next election.”
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/..._20100419/P500
I'm not quite sure that the right wingers hate gays, females, minority races, etc. as much as you think. In fact most people I know have no problems with them at all. I guess the KKK vote conservatively (now), and there are some people that are racist that aren't in the KKK, IMO the number of racists is probably something like 1%.... I'm sure in the opinions of people here that number is more like 99%.

The guy's real argument here is that the left is quick to hurl insults but often don't want to engage in a reasonable debate. To the point where people don't even bother arguing with them anymore. Not to mention that they feel almost any idea that disagrees with them is racist. For example, Trump said he wants to bring jobs to impoverished black communities and make them more safe. Of course people interpret this somehow as Trump saying "go ahead cops, shoot black people, we're increasing your pay".

More to the point, if I held up an "All lives matter" sign in a black community, what do you think would happen? lol. I mean really, when you think about it, that's how bad things have gotten. The left pretty much has used violence and character assassination to achieve power and at this point people feel that they are a major threat, to the point where they'd literally vote *anyone* into office that will take a stance against that.

I do agree on the comedian thing though, it just so happens I think the guy nailed it and if you ask many other people, they will pretty much agree. I guess it all is in the eye of the beholder though.

Back to Trump's ideas to help the black communities that are in poverty though.... even if you do not like what he said, who is offering better solutions? I'm not saying that in a sarcastic way, it's serious, who actually wants to come up with solutions here?
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I'm not quite sure that the right wingers hate gays, females, minority races, etc. as much as you think. In fact most people I know have no problems with them at all. I guess the KKK vote conservatively (now), and there are some people that are racist that aren't in the KKK, IMO the number of racists is probably something like 1%.... I'm sure in the opinions of people here that number is more like 99%.
Ha, hey, I was kinda with you until you said the number of racists was something like 1%. I don't think the number is 99% but lol, c'mon, you can't possibly believe that... Or, wait, maybe you do if you think racism is limited to burning crosses on lawns or lynching black people. And I don't mean "hate" in the sense that they want for their genocide, but rather think of them as a burden on their lives or place in society.

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"To the point where people don't even bother arguing with them anymore"
Yeah, I see that, and that's why his argument was disingenuous, or at least intellectually dishonest because I'm positive that he knows that "cuck", "SJW" and a bunch of other insults along those lines are used all the time on the right to shut down discussion. A lot of time preemptively as to scare people off or to mark territory. It's like a call to action in a way, in that it gets the circle jerk going and people with less aggressive and more reasonable views tend to avoid it or tread lightly as to not get ganged up on. He didn't mention that tho.

And I don't know the details behind that trump quote or the reaction, but I do know that all over the world their are communities that are over-policed to the point where the cops legitimately look like an occupying force, and a lot of mistreatment of citizens happens there. Combine that with the privatized prison industrial complex, the motivations behind it, the incentive to keep a system or conditions stable in a certain place, almost like a farm, and how much it resembles antebellum slavery, and I wouldn't want that shit either. I'll call the cops when I need them. In some communities, the police don't prevent crime, they facilitate crime. I've known a lot of scumbags that live in nice areas that police don't bother anyone in and only show up when summoned.

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More to the point, if I held up an "All lives matter" sign in a black community, what do you think would happen? lol. I mean really, when you think about it, that's how bad things have gotten. The left pretty much has used violence and character assassination to achieve power and at this point people feel that they are a major threat, to the point where they'd literally vote *anyone* into office that will take a stance against that.
If you held up an 'all lives matter' sign, I really couldn't see any sane black adult doing anything violent, they got problems of their own. I COULD see some angsty black high school kids fucking you up. But teenagers/young kids of all races are sometimes ready to get it poppin. That's just a young man thing. I could walk down to the bar tonight and stand outside with a "black lives matter" sign, and if I'm alone, you really think I wont get approached? That could go left super fucking fast if the tables were turned lol. The difference is everyone knows that it's "black lives matter *too" which is in response to the idea that they matter less than others. It's kinda amazing that that has to be explained all the time, but people like to play stupid, I guess.

And character assassination is something that's always been a part of politics, on both sides. I don't like it either.

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Back to Trump's ideas to help the black communities that are in poverty though.... even if you do not like what he said, who is offering better solutions? I'm not saying that in a sarcastic way, it's serious, who actually wants to come up with solutions here?
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Republicans, having their wish come true, are now on damage control. Rather than be held accountable for their own promotion of Trump during his entire campaign they would rather do what they do best, figure out a way to blame the left for it. Instead of taking responsibility for their own vote when he starts to fuck up theyll point the finger at liberals, as always. ZERO accountability for their own actions.
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A lot of the SJW desires such as celebrating multiculturalism, protection for disadvantaged or different people etc are actually tremendously virtuous. However less socially conscious folk cannot convert to those liberal principles overnight, they have to be allowed a few years to complete a journey of enlightenment. The problem is that the SJWs don't allow them that opportunity, because the minute they make the slightest objection to anti-white propaganda (such as Daylyt dressing up as a slave), they're ridiculed by the SJWs, who act as if they control an exclusive college fraternity. How do I know this? It was inflicted upon me on RMBVA 2 years ago. In 2016 I personally no longer disapprove of that type of propaganda, because I understand the history and nature of oppression better, but I wish the SJWs wouldn't mock people who're making the transition from narrow mindedness to tolerance & inclusivity, they should encourage them.
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That's fine that it means that to you, but let's be real about it. There are a bunch of people who like things the way they are and don't give a shit about people who are worse off because they don't care about how the system works for other people as long as it works for them. "SJWs" are annoying not because the causes are insincere, but because they are reminding these people of stuff they don't want to think about. It's much easier to discredit the messenger, which we saw in full action when Kaep was taking a knee.

Brief aside, when people were saying Kaep should have had a more respectful protest, what they meant was Kaep should have done something that they could easily ignore so they wouldn't be forced to confront the issues he was addressing.

I'd also point out that these people tend to project their lack of interest in the well-being of others and assume that none of these other white/male/straight people can truly give a shit about issues that don't affect them, so they mock them and ask "if you really cared, why...".

Whenever you see a term like "white knight" in use, understand the mentality that created it. Some people cannot fathom caring about someone less fortunate than them and thus believe the worst about someone who does (just doing it to get laid, etc.)

Are there some weirdos out there that "try to make a difference" for the wrong reasons? Sure. Do anti-social justice people take these teenager/troll Tumblr accounts and blow them out of proportion and make this into an epidemic of fake concern that mostly doesn't exist? Absolutely.
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Ha, hey, I was kinda with you until you said the number of racists was something like 1%. I don't think the number is 99% but lol, c'mon, you can't possibly believe that... Or, wait, maybe you do if you think racism is limited to burning crosses on lawns or lynching black people. And I don't mean "hate" in the sense that they want for their genocide, but rather think of them as a burden on their lives or place in society.
I guess some of this stuff is just going down to opinions but the burden thing I feel is way off - the typical Trump voter disapproves of anyone that's abusing welfare for example, including other whites, not just a black person that is doing it. And when I say abuse, I'm not talking about the person that has fallen on tough times and is on welfare for a few months until they get back to their feet, rather the person who is using it for years on end but that also refuses to get a job even when they are readily available.

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Yeah, I see that, and that's why his argument was disingenuous, or at least intellectually dishonest because I'm positive that he knows that "cuck", "SJW" and a bunch of other insults along those lines are used all the time on the right to shut down discussion. A lot of time preemptively as to scare people off or to mark territory. It's like a call to action in a way, in that it gets the circle jerk going and people with less aggressive and more reasonable views tend to avoid it or tread lightly as to not get ganged up on. He didn't mention that tho.
No doubt both sides have assholes but it seems like the normal people on the left have devolved into shouting "racist", or "sexist" or "homophobe" now too. Even on stuff like CNN, Van Jones immediately says Trump won because of a "white lash", despite the fact that Mitt Romney won more white voters than Trump did lol. The whole thing pretty much ignores why people voted for the guy and instead try to say "they did it because they are racist". That's pretty lame on a multitude of levels, but can you imagine if someone like myself tried to place such strong assumptions on your train of thought? I'm sure you'd probably find it insulting. That is what happened though and why we got the result that we got.

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Strictly speaking as an outsider here, I think the issue with the war against police brutality is that too many people cry foul when there's not enough evidence or any evidence presented in some cases. If a cop just murders someone in cold blood, they deserve to go to jail for the rest of their life, it may not appear that way but the vast majority of the right believe this. The problem is the left is making accusations of foul play in instances where they haven't even seen the facts revealed yet.


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To be frank it looks pretty clear that the left has been expecting help in the black community and I don't think what the Donald suggests is wrong here. Police brutality has been a big issue but the causes behind it are complex, not as simple as "just have the cops wear body camera's", not to mention many of the communities are in extremely bad shape. When someone says this, they aren't saying it as a "black people are evil" type of thing, but rather as a "we should help them out" type of thing. Focusing on bringing back jobs, making the neighborhoods more safe, etc. all of that stuff isn't going to fix *everything* but it would be a good start.
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White supremacist and self-proclaimed "Leninist" who "wants to destroy the state" Steve Bannon as chief strategist (source: http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-leninist.html)

John "Warmonger with 'No Regrets on Iraq War'" Bolton very likely for Secretary of State (source: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/jo...rticle/2564463)

EDIT: Now it's reported as being between Bolton and Giuliani.

Putin is playing Trump at the moment because Russia is trying to implement this plan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Founda...of_Geopolitics. There's a reason they interfered with the election in favor of Trump, and it's not because Putin likes Trump and wants to work with the USA to create a more stable world. Russia only cares about the USA getting out of the way. World War 3 is not such a distant possibility with Trump at the helm.
(This paragraph is my own spin on the situation, whereas the above stuff are based off things these people have said.)

Not to mention Trump himself won't be submitting to a blind trust, and is well positioned to scam the hell out of American taxpayers for billions with this infrastructure bill thing (biased source of course, but read and decide for yourself, the way it should be http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politi...est-corruption). If corruption really was an issue with Clinton, Trump voters should be horrified with how this is setting up. Also, those tax loopholes he said he knew better than anyone, do people really think he is going to close them?

Many have said they voted for Trump because they were sick of the establishment ignoring them. If that is the case, make sure you pay attention to the pro-Wall Street, pro-war, anti-99% guys he's surrounding himself with and the amount of corruption he could indulge in. The liberal/conservative politicians don't give a fuck about you because they are still going to get theirs. We need your help resisting what is about to happen because it will be a massive war on anyone who does not consider themselves rich. Religious and ethnic minorities will get the worst of it but it's pretty unlikely that anyone posting here will be immune to the consequences.

Please stop projecting your own rationality onto the situation. There is no "pivot" coming. This is the real him. The resistance needs to begin now.
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Sanders voters are who won Trump the election, not the Trump supporters
Then they blame the DNC. Voter turnout was pathetic because they were convinced it was in the bag. This isn't on the white people that voted for Trump. It's on the stupid white people that didn't vote at all.
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Oh yeah he's clearly a dick head, no debating. But I mean you can only assess what they say and take it as read. They've obviously seen it as a positive, which isn't a stretch when you think of it logically. They want to sell the idea of the west hating muslims, even just your average American Muslim. This allows them to do that with much more ease than previously.

The attacks? It depends. They blanket claim most stuff as why wouldn't they, they are losing a lot of ground in reality so they need to present a front of strength if they want new recruits. It's almost impossible to prove everything they do. There will be lone wolfs who are inspired by them but not directly working for them.
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The attacks? It depends. They blanket claim most stuff as why wouldn't they, they are losing a lot of ground in reality so they need to present a front of strength if they want new recruits. It's almost impossible to prove everything they do. There will be lone wolfs who are inspired by them but not directly working for them.
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There is, but concerning Putin and Jong Un maybe it is not the reason you suspect, and concerning the KKK, that doesn't really prove anything.. A lot of people don't want illegals flooding into the USA, for various reasons, not all those reasons are racist .. there is no logic in: "some bad people like him, therefore he can't be good" because there are a lot of good people who like Trump too, that doesn't prove that Trump isn't bad.

As for Putin, he sees Trump as a friend because he knows Trump is merely a patriotic and populist leader, rather than a puppet who will continue to advance the plans of the hegemony / imperium that have enough money to buy and co-opt the "democracy"; the same shadow government that would inevitably give Putin the Ghaddafi treatment if their obedient puppet is in power

Putin sees Trump as a friend because he knows Trump is willing to make reasonable deals and agreements and is not likely to double cross him (and even if he did, Trump wouldn't be nearly as sneaky or ruthless as Clinton can be)

Putin knows that Trump is a normal guy who does not want nuclear war decimating his own country

Think with me: imagine you are Putin.

Who would you rather have, Trump, who respects you and wants to make honest deals with you? Or Clinton, who blames your country for everything and threatens to attack you militarily for perceived cyber attacks.

Trump will be a peacenik compared to Hillary. We basically dispelled a second cold war with Russia, and possibly WW III the moment Trump was elected and people see it as a negative...

like people claim to want world peace but god forbid if other leaders of other countries like our president..

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there is no logic in: "some bad people like him, therefore he can't be good" because there are a lot of good people who like Trump too, that doesn't prove that Trump isn't bad.

Endorsing torture, advocating war crimes (targeting civilians), denying climate change and being investigated for numerous scandals from segragated housing refusal to sexual assault and child molestation would prove otherwise as far as his character but this is all according to the eye of the beholder of what "bad" is.

Putin sees Trump as a friend because he knows Trump is willing to make reasonable deals and agreements and is not likely to double cross him (and even if he did, Trump wouldn't be nearly as sneaky or ruthless as Clinton can be)

what is your proof that Clinton would be any more or less "sneaky or ruthless" than Trump? You are jumping to conclusions based on your own assumptions without knowing Trumps real intentions with foreign diplomacy.


Putin knows that Trump is a normal guy who does not want nuclear war decimating his own country

You need to take another look at Trumps position on using nuclear weapons... Again, these aren't assumptions if they're coming straight from the horses mouth.


Trump will be a peacenik compared to Hillary

Again, you have no real "proof" of this when neither has spent a day in office.


In short, you put stock in Trump on being the lesser danger/dishonest criminal of the 2 when you have no real evidence to prove that is the actual case but 90% of the evidence you could use to suggest otherwise about Trump is coming straight from his own mouth on a regular basis.
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Old 11-17-2016, 03:29 PM   #198
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http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politi...mic-corruption

Everyone should read this article and decide for themselves if it sounds realistic. You should at least be able to defend Trump against what's laid out here if you are going to support him (instead of joining a resistance that urgently needs your help before the country is permanently transformed into a kleptocracy).

At this point I'm thinking the civil war that would erupt if the electoral college didn't vote in Trump would be preferable to the likely outcome of a Trump presidency. Really unfortunate how people's "both sides" instincts will write this post off as a whiny Democrat who is bitter that his team lost (fuck the Democrats, for the record, and I'm pretty confident the ones currently in office will sell us out to gain favor with Trump since their comfortable political positions have allowed them to misdiagnose the severity of the situation).

"I told you so"s really aren't fun when the consequences will be this serious for both of us. Let's just call it water under the bridge and try to stop this guy now instead.
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Old 11-17-2016, 04:20 PM   #199
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Get paid is bodying this thread. Ftr surely their should be something put in place that ensures that presidents must have served in some sort of govt position before they take office. It's mind blowing to me that this can happen. I mean would you let a guy who worked in MCd's run NASA? It wouldn't happen in literally any other profession
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Old 11-17-2016, 06:11 PM   #200
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You've identified a major issue, we live in societies that now blindly refute evidence, all sides fall into this trap. The problem is that all the conspiracy theorists, who've become more visible during Obama's 2nd term, have persuaded the masses to be constantly suspicious of and cynical towards academic experts and news reports, because they may have vested interests and biases. Whilst we must always question the scholars and mainstream media, people are now, on principle, just automatically disbelieving evidence, whether it relates to police brutality, or Trump's fiscal policy, EU infrastructure projects etc. Instead people inform themselves with quippy op-eds, dogmatic headlines, forums and cartoonish propaganda, because the conspiracy theorists have deluded everyone into thinking we're more knowledgeable than the specialists, everyone's an armchair political commentator now. Maybe I'm misinterpreting this, I dunno.
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