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Old 03-14-2016, 04:40 PM   #1
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Really enjoyed this Rone performance. Dude is great at picking angles (and original ways to execute them...the short math bit was dope) and just a great entertainer in general (the jumpman flip...). Probably his cleanest performance I've seen, he usually has these slight stumble/stutter things going on.

Illmac was solid I thought, but seemed like he was missing that something extra. Part of me wants to say he was a victim of the crowd being stupid in Toronto. He had a lot of shit that deserved more reaction than it got and it looked like it took away from his momentum a bit. He had a bit of Charron syndrome going on with his rebuttals I thought.....most of them were misses.

Agree with the decision...but I could see it going another way if it was in Cali or anywhere but Toronto really. Consider me surprised, expected Rone to do well but didn't think he'd win.
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"You're too short to die for your country" might be the corniest shit I've ever heard spit in battle rap.
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Illmac's 1st completely lacked focus or structure, though. That combined with the stumbles hurt him but every time I watch this; I see Ill taking 2 & 3.
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Really enjoyed this Rone performance. Dude is great at picking angles (and original ways to execute them...the short math bit was dope) and just a great entertainer in general (the jumpman flip...). Probably his cleanest performance I've seen, he usually has these slight stumble/stutter things going on.

Illmac was solid I thought, but seemed like he was missing that something extra. Part of me wants to say he was a victim of the crowd being stupid in Toronto. He had a lot of shit that deserved more reaction than it got and it looked like it took away from his momentum a bit. He had a bit of Charron syndrome going on with his rebuttals I thought.....most of them were misses.

Agree with the decision...but I could see it going another way if it was in Cali or anywhere but Toronto really. Consider me surprised, expected Rone to do well but didn't think he'd win.
Typical Toronto crowd. I gave illmac the 2nd and 3rd on cam and in the building.
Rone did well but had a few lines that were just awful. 2-1 either way is a fair statement
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meh, i fuck with rone. i can see how you could be bothered by the way he performs though for sure, more so cause it's so in your face that if you don't like it it's hard to get past.

never bothered me personally though.
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Rone literally quoted social science stats verbatim in this battle... almost forgetting to rhyme in the process.

His reddit poster swag was just a bit too much at points tbh.

Illmac got that.
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Illmac is my favourite battle rapper. i used to like Rone a lot but i haven't been enjoying him as much anymore lately. that being said, i think Rone still won this battle.

Illmac was all over the place in the first, which is very uncharacteristic of him, and nothing really hit. the angle about the video of Rone pretending to give head to Pat was absolutely and entirely useless. it was basically the verbal equivalent of a youtube comment saying something like "i don't find this shit funny fuck you" and he kept at it for like two minutes. Diz tends to be the only Freshcoast vet that would spend so much time on such a terrible angle, very surprised Illmac did that. he also seemed very nervous in the ring, which clearly affected his ability to string his rebuttals together, and they basically all came out sucky.

Rone just seemed a lot more composed and confident. his shit wasn't amazing, but at least he didn't have anything as cringeworthy as Illmac's third, and he didn't fuck up. i did think the ending where basically all he did was quote Illmac's third vs Bigg K was really stupid though.
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Illmac is my favourite battle rapper. i used to like Rone a lot but i haven't been enjoying him as much anymore lately. that being said, i think Rone still won this battle.

Illmac was all over the place in the first, which is very uncharacteristic of him, and nothing really hit. the angle about the video of Rone pretending to give head to Pat was absolutely and entirely useless. it was basically the verbal equivalent of a youtube comment saying something like "i don't find this shit funny fuck you" and he kept at it for like two minutes. Diz tends to be the only Freshcoast vet that would spend so much time on such a terrible angle, very surprised Illmac did that. he also seemed very nervous in the ring, which clearly affected his ability to string his rebuttals together, and they basically all came out sucky.

Rone just seemed a lot more composed and confident. his shit wasn't amazing, but at least he didn't have anything as cringeworthy as Illmac's third, and he didn't fuck up. i did think the ending where basically all he did was quote Illmac's third vs Bigg K was really stupid though.

Yeah.

People saying 3rd was debateable...I don't think it was really. I thought Illmac's third was pretty bad actually. He spend half of it talking bout that video and it never really paid off in some creative punchline or anything. Then the Sandusky angle? That shit's pretty tired at this point...trying to flip the verb shit at the end of it fell flat for me too.

Oh well. Illmac still top 10. Let him battle Shotty. Kinda seemed uninspired for this tbh.
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i really like these two and i dont wanna sound like im complaining
but i feel like they both usually do wayyyyyy better

like rone was going for "thinkers" and illmac was going for cheap jokes tryna be funny
i feel like they tried to do each others style mostly
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anyone else find the audio on this is ridiculous? everything so clear
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Dead wrong about the 3rd. Rone's "haha isn't it so funny that we're gay!?!" comedy is beyond wack and Illmac took it down from every angle in his 3rd round. Even with ad libs.

Even the intro song where Rone's like "ayo i'm not PC dawg!!! shocking and edgy!!!" the try hard Reddit swag was borderline painful at times.
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illmac was 99% fuckin garbage in this. his 3rd round is the worst shit ever
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Dead wrong about the 3rd. Rone's "haha isn't it so funny that we're gay!?!" comedy is beyond wack and Illmac took it down from every angle in his 3rd round. Even with ad libs.

Even the intro song where Rone's like "ayo i'm not PC dawg!!! shocking and edgy!!!" the try hard Reddit swag was borderline painful at times.
I agree that comedy is cringeworthy.

I thought Illmac trying to break it down was equally cringeworthy.

would rather have seen illmac just rap about how he's a better rapper or something.

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What you looking at? You are not a man. You will never be a man.
You know why? He let Pat palm the back of his head with his hand.

Never mind Sandusky molesting this bitch.
YouTube “getting brains in the lac”. I didn’t edit this shit.
It’s a video of you giving Pat head in the whip.
You don’t remember the clip? You didn’t think I would mention this shit?
Pat looked like MadChild last Blackout:
a Swollen Member getting neck while he’s stiff.

The video starts, Pat getting head in the car. Nothing too embarrassing in it,
’til it’s revealed it’s not a girl, it’s you. Genius. Being gay is hilarious. Get it?
(No? Me either.)

Tell me this: what was the moment you became aware they were taping there?
Was it when Pat came, you came up for air, wiped your facial hair
after treating Pat’s dick like you was ‘bout to find the chain in there?

I guess we just from two different scenes,
‘cause I ain’t trying to get on YouTube and Watch(-)men do shit obscene.
You normally play the Comedian, but in that new clip I seen,
you just went Dr. Manhattan on us: just blew(blue) dick on screen.

Hey, fuck it though. You should get a letterman jacket for pleasuring Pat.
Giving head in the ‘lac. Yo, I guess when he lettered in track
ain’t the only time he’s ever been a(-)head in a lap.

We both battled Pat. Look how we related to him.
I left with Pat’s head. You gave it to him.

How did that relationship start? Does he think that it’s fate as well?
Or did you just slide in his DMs like, “A/S/L”?
That shit’s gay as hell, and you taped it. Well,
I don’t care he made it, he’s Larry David: he played himself.
he could cut 2/3rds of that shit and still got the point across.

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it really felt more like watching illmac lose than watching rone win!!!
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I agree that comedy is cringeworthy.

I thought Illmac trying to break it down was equally cringeworthy.

would rather have seen illmac just rap about how he's a better rapper or something.



he could cut 2/3rds of that shit and still got the point across.
I wont argue relative taste. I'll just say I think even from me trying to entertain your perspective "equally cringe worthy" is a tough sell.

My face inverted when Rone said "you're too short to die for your country." Imagining who you have to be as a person to consider that a viable insult... More specifically in the context of the "I'm actually more enlightened (because -- for instance -- I don't categorically dismiss commercialism)" schtick that Rone set up at the start of the battle. If he had just gone full blow-hard asshole it could've possibly worked.

This is coming from someone who likes Rone. I think the popularity of the Big T battle has in many ways made him the worst version of himself for this. (I also liked the his Big T performance specifically but since then it seems like he's pandering for viral potential and that sucks.)
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I wont argue relative taste. I'll just say I think even from me trying to entertain your perspective "equally cringe worthy" is a tough sell.

My face inverted when Rone said "you're too short to die for your country." Imagining who you have to be as a person to consider that a viable insult... More specifically in the context of the "I'm actually more enlightened (because -- for instance -- I don't categorically dismiss commercialism)" schtick that Rone set up at the start of the battle. If he had just gone full blow-hard asshole it could've possibly worked.

This is coming from someone who likes Rone. I think the popularity of the Big T battle has in many ways made him the worst version of himself for this. (I also liked the his Big T performance specifically but since then it seems like he's pandering for viral potential and that sucks.)
yeah wasn't a huge fan of the "die for your country" bit. i mean, who cares...i question anyone who willingly joins the military anyway. i do think it kinda fits Rone's super patriotic image though.

he mostly just used it as a segway into talking about illmac having all these conspiracy theories and such.

anyway, not saying rone was free of cringe, i think they both had their moments this battle. i think rone just prepared a bit smarter, with the crowd and judges in mind.
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i honestly thought rone would be a somewhat easy opponent for illmac. usually the ones who talk the most are the easiest to break down. (that's one of the reason goodz debatably beat rone.) i went into watching this battle thinking rone handed ill the ammo to kill him. i don't see how or why illmac couldn't capitalize.

oh well.

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I wont argue relative taste. I'll just say I think even from me trying to entertain your perspective "equally cringe worthy" is a tough sell.

My face inverted when Rone said "you're too short to die for your country." Imagining who you have to be as a person to consider that a viable insult... More specifically in the context of the "I'm actually more enlightened (because -- for instance -- I don't categorically dismiss commercialism)" schtick that Rone set up at the start of the battle. If he had just gone full blow-hard asshole it could've possibly worked.

This is coming from someone who likes Rone. I think the popularity of the Big T battle has in many ways made him the worst version of himself for this. (I also liked the his Big T performance specifically but since then it seems like he's pandering for viral potential and that sucks.)
i think this battle wasn't about who was better, but who was less bad. and overall, i think that has to be Rone, for the reasons i posted in my first post.
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"Benefactor of what, Rone? Itís been a long road, chockfull of potholes.
I lost a match in the ring, I was Jack with the beans;
I aimed high ítil my stock(stalk) rose.
Stockholm. Yeah, the fans can be hot-cold,
but mono e mono Iíll cook you like pot roast on a hot stove,
or waffles at Roscoeís. You a snot-nose;
but I wrote is (sniff) El Chapo to nostrils.
So donít reach; thatís a Dot role.
Donít Flop; you a lost Soul.
Dude is silly; you from Philly? Iím Ali when he boxed Joe.
Get it? You boxed, Rone. Youíre John Doe; youíre spotís blown like a foxhole.
Youíre not dope; youíre not Diz; heís not me; heís not grown.
And we all know that Iím 5í4Ē,
but if I roll to Roneís crib then Roneís getting 5-0íed;
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was fire. thought i'd heard it somewhere before....turns out i haven't, but the rhyme scheme itself was pretty similar to Colombia...

First verse of flight distance, full circle, on bad information, featuring qwel
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the short math bit was dope
Really? I though that was a horrible angle...



Didn't like either third much, but edged the battle to Illmac. Crowd was sleeping heavy on him for some reason, felt like it killed his ability to build momentum. I thought Illmac's bars were tight, but his delivery was off. Rone's delivery was on point, but his bars were hit & miss.

Still one of Rone's better performances IMO, but thought Illmac edged it.
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I also think Illmac has had a series of good opponents who've done poorly against him since Bigg K (Clips, Real Deal, Verb, DNA, Pat Stay) that some of his flaws lately weren't exposed as he really breezed past all of his competition. Hopefully this match is a wake up call, as he's still pretty dope and one of the best in KOTD.

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lol, damn.

that's two spots. crazy. good looks.


funny part is that's probably my least listened to flight distance track, i had bad info in the car for a long ass time but i always forget there's an actual track after that intro bit for full circle.

plus the next track is "That's Big", and that track bangs.
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Really? I though that was a horrible angle...



Didn't like either third much, but edged the battle to Illmac. Crowd was sleeping heavy on him for some reason, felt like it killed his ability to build momentum. I thought Illmac's bars were tight, but his delivery was off. Rone's delivery was on point, but his bars were hit & miss.

Still one of Rone's better performances IMO, but thought Illmac edged it.
maybe it's cause im 6'2.

at the very least it was a more unique take on the short angle.
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lol, damn.

that's two spots. crazy. good looks.


funny part is that's probably my least listened to flight distance track, i had bad info in the car for a long ass time but i always forget there's an actual track after that intro bit for full circle.

plus the next track is "That's Big", and that track bangs.
how could u ever skip on a track featuring qwell... that man spits it the darkest
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how could u ever skip on a track featuring qwell... that man spits it the darkest
hahaha, like i said, when im listening to it i always forget it's a track and not just a skit/interlude.

bad information is such a dope album though.
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idk, this is my first time seeing this, and I don't really get how Rone won...seemed like the crowd was actively not fucking with Illmac and that threw him off, but he still got every round to me...some of Rone's shit hit with the crowd but really doesn't hold up to scrutiny (I'm a quarter million dollars more attractive than you? You're too short to die for your country? tf?). Will be interesting to see where both of them go from here though
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