What happened after Webster Hall closing down URL 's event Armageddon

**rocky** · 01-18-2014, 08:12 PM

Did fans ever get their money back from webster hall?

Did fans ever get money back from when they closed down the Gramercy theatre where they only were able to tape yung Ill vs jc?

Did smack ever end up suing webster hall as they mentioned in their blog?

Were there any other battles that were taped that day that weren't released?

**JustJ123** · 01-18-2014, 08:15 PM

Good questions.

I assume people got the refunds, or someone would have called BRA complaining like they did after the event wondering when they would get them.

No idea about the lawsuit against webster hall and no idea if any battles weren't released.

**Gene Oakland** · 01-18-2014, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JustJ123

Good questions.

I assume people got the refunds, or someone would have called BRA complaining like they did after the event wondering when they would get them.

No idea about the lawsuit against webster hall and no idea if any battles weren't released.

Wasn't there a video of Beasley telling people outside Armageddon no refunds but if they had 20 bucks and cab fare they could ride across town and catch the rest of the battles of which one was actually completed? Doubt they sued Webster Hall or if they did it's buried in the NYC civil courts docket. But whatever happened they haven't recovered. They lost out on Lux vs Hollow, did the shoe convention show (which kind of paints a weird picture financially that they would let the greatest stage in battling be an afterthought at a fucking fashion event). They have no big match-ups in the works that I know of, not even rumors. BET probably paid well for the tourney but that whole thing was a shit show too. Basically, a huge budget and slick talk can't make up for their apparent lack of professionalism. 2014 needs to be their best year ever to not get backburnered by UW and KOTD.

yomama · 01-18-2014, 08:38 PM

for refunds call 555 5555 area code of your choice

smack got insurance its the rules

**rocky** · 01-18-2014, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Gene Oakland

Wasn't there a video of Beasley telling people outside Armageddon no refunds but if they had 20 bucks and cab fare they could ride across town and catch the rest of the battles of which one was actually completed? Doubt they sued Webster Hall or if they did it's buried in the NYC civil courts docket. But whatever happened they haven't recovered. They lost out on Lux vs Hollow, did the shoe convention show (which kind of paints a weird picture financially that they would let the greatest stage in battling be an afterthought at a fucking fashion event). They have no big match-ups in the works that I know of, not even rumors. BET probably paid well for the tourney but that whole thing was a shit show too. Basically, a huge budget and slick talk can't make up for their apparent lack of professionalism. 2014 needs to be their best year ever to not get backburnered by UW and KOTD.

The "20 bucks and cab fare" thing u mentioned I believe was gramercy theatre which also got shutdown. And they ended the night at pyramids, home of eow (where they shot conceited vs surf).

**Bigzero** · 01-18-2014, 11:45 PM

Yeah everybody got their money back.

The Yung Ill vs JC and Tsu Surf vs Con were free.

They didnt tape anything else but them two battles.

**Bigzero** · 01-18-2014, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gene Oakland

Wasn't there a video of Beasley telling people outside Armageddon no refunds but if they had 20 bucks and cab fare they could ride across town and catch the rest of the battles of which one was actually completed? Doubt they sued Webster Hall or if they did it's buried in the NYC civil courts docket. But whatever happened they haven't recovered. They lost out on Lux vs Hollow, did the shoe convention show (which kind of paints a weird picture financially that they would let the greatest stage in battling be an afterthought at a fucking fashion event). They have no big match-ups in the works that I know of, not even rumors. BET probably paid well for the tourney but that whole thing was a shit show too. Basically, a huge budget and slick talk can't make up for their apparent lack of professionalism. 2014 needs to be their best year ever to not get backburnered by UW and KOTD.

Talk about Hating!

This subject is about armageddon LOL!

Also URL will not miss out on the loaded lux vs Hollow battle, trust me that shit will be a disapointment.

**mdk** · 01-19-2014, 12:04 AM

Yes everyone was refunded

And yes, they did all the battles from that event and they have all been released on URL

Diz vs Rex
Surf vs con
Suge vs bill
JC vs yung ill
Math vs dose
K shine vs DNA
Goodz vs X factor

And yea I was there waiting in line, shit was wack

Rocky didn't u make this thread once before or am I trippin?

And @Gene Oakland they have something huge in the works for nome 4 as far as rumors go

**rocky** · 01-19-2014, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mdk

Yes everyone was refunded

And yes, they did all the battles from that event and they have all been released on URL

Diz vs Rex
Surf vs con
Suge vs bill
JC vs yung ill
Math vs dose
K shine vs DNA
Goodz vs X factor

And yea I was there waiting in line, shit was wack

Rocky didn't u make this thread once before or am I trippin?

And @Gene Oakland they have something huge in the works for nome 4 as far as rumors go

Nope, maybe u confused me with someone else.

**rocky** · 01-19-2014, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigzero

Yeah everybody got their money back.

The Yung Ill vs JC and Tsu Surf vs Con were free.

They didnt tape anything else but them two battles.

Yung ill vs jc was free? I thought gramercy wouldn't honor the tickets from Webster hall?

Nonetheless, I'm glad folks were refunded their loot. It's fucked up how the venue treated smack. Finding a venue is so tough in ny, cuz I have heard venues doin similar shit to promoters for even non-battle shit.

**mdk** · 01-19-2014, 01:13 AM

Surf vs con was later that night at the pyramid cafe and there was I think a $20 entry fee in a joint venture with EOW

**Gene Oakland** · 01-19-2014, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mdk

Yes everyone was refunded

And yes, they did all the battles from that event and they have all been released on URL

Diz vs Rex
Surf vs con
Suge vs bill
JC vs yung ill
Math vs dose
K shine vs DNA
Goodz vs X factor

And yea I was there waiting in line, shit was wack

Rocky didn't u make this thread once before or am I trippin?

And @Gene Oakland they have something huge in the works for nome 4 as far as rumors go

That's what I need to hear. I really want URL to get their shit together because honestly it hey probably have put on more of my favorite battles than any other promotion.

yomama · 01-19-2014, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mdk

Yes everyone was refunded

thats good business

**Abstrakt** · 01-19-2014, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mdk

And @Gene Oakland they have something huge in the works for nome 4 as far as rumors go

a mook vs lux rematch? oh wait... URL doesn't take chances so they force mediocrity down our respective throats...

**Bigzero** · 01-19-2014, 05:09 AM

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a mook vs lux rematch? oh wait... URL doesn't take chances so they force mediocity down our respective throats...

What are u talking about?

B magic,Chilla Jones,Qleen,Bigg K and Danja Zone all come out of the pg's (all of them top talent).

Mook and Lux came from Smack dvds.

URL took the biggest chance by bringing the Legends back for sm2!

They paid mook 20k which was a Risk that didnt prove to be good for them.

URL takes alot of risk, u just choose to ignore them.

And now u want them to set up a Rematch of a battle they already have?

Think before u speak....

**Abstrakt** · 01-19-2014, 05:17 AM

^did they REALLY? i had NO IDEA!

some people take this shit too srsly

yomama · 01-19-2014, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigzero

What are u talking about?

B magic,Chilla Jones,Qleen,Bigg K and Danja Zone all come out of the pg's (all of them top talent).

Mook and Lux came from Smack dvds.

URL took the biggest chance by bringing the Legends back for sm2!

They paid mook 20k which was a Risk that didnt prove to be good for them.

URL takes alot of risk, u just choose to ignore them.

And now u want them to set up a Rematch of a battle they already have?

Think before u speak....

sm2 is the biggest event in url history and sorry but i wanna see mook vs lux rematch a lot more than hollow vs lux
20k was well worth it if you count the promo and the fact that a sponsor paid part of it+ good performance by mook