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Old 01-28-2014, 02:55 PM   #1
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Macklemore situation happens alot in battle rap

some call them new fans iam sorry but i call them "most white fans" people who overhype white battlers like in another thread somebody asked to list the best battles and he had the nerve to put JC vs Chilla and Verb vs Hitman in the same category as fuckin Big K vs Illmac!!

Are u Serious (jones)??

Nah but farreal nothin against white people its just they clearly cant understand alot of shit of basic rap for example they dont care about flow,rytmic rap etc its just hurt me to see a culture being kinda destroyed by people who cant understand the roots of it.

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yeah im pretty sure the hype for bigg k vs illmaculate wasn't just white guys
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Really? theres nigga who call that a classic? iam sure if i asked niggas like Cal,Surf or Rex if thats a classic they would either laugh or say they didnt watch it lets be real that shit is just good!!
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watch bigg k vs half past 7 and look at all the black battlers going ham over K's bars.

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sigh... Segregating fans by color is as stupid as real color segregations back then

It's 2014 man, racism ended, so why are we still stereotyping?

getting revenge on the white devil for your grandfathers? smh
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some call them new fans iam sorry but i call them "most white fans" people who overhype white battlers like in another thread somebody asked to list the best battles and he had the nerve to put JC vs Chilla and Verb vs Hitman in the same category as fuckin Big K vs Illmac!!

Are u Serious (jones)??

Nah but farreal nothin against white people its just they clearly cant understand alot of shit of basic rap for example they dont care about flow,rytmic rap etc its just hurt me to see a culture being kinda destroyed by people who cant understand the roots of it.

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There's something against white people. I will listen to Big vs Illmac before I listen to JC vs CHilla. Both of these guys are the most overrated trash battles who get respect I've ever heard. That might be there best showing but it's still overrated. Big K and Illmac had battle of the year.

I think missing the rapping ability of someone like Illmac I think you are missing the roots of this stuff.
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Whenever someone bases there opinion in race you know they really don't have a point.

Comparing that to Macklemore situation shows you really are out of touch
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Iam sayin White rappers tend to get overrhyped because white people got a diferent perception than the originators black and latinos iam not sayin they are wack but when compared to blacks they have to do much less to be praised.

Fuck the Racism cry baby talk iam talkin battle rap u the one changin subjects
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he had the nerve to put JC vs Chilla and Verb vs Hitman in the same category as fuckin Big K vs Illmac!!
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Nah but farreal nothin against white people its just they clearly cant understand alot of shit of basic rap for example they dont care about flow,rytmic rap etc its just hurt me to see a culture being kinda destroyed by people who cant understand the roots of it.

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I clearly said i have nothing against white people how convinient to ignore that and make assumptions.

This lames ddont even read and interpret things just read black and white and start fuming lol bunch of lame sheeps smfh
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I don't agree with the evidence provided per se, but there is definitely a slight bit of racial preference at play in battling. I had to go on a similar rant after Vendetta when people were trying to say Illmac beat Arsonal because "all Arsonal has is gun bars." Or see all the Diz apologists after the Rex battle. Or people like Caustic getting just a liiitttle too hype at Caddy Ron's racist ass shit against AB Hoggish. It's this unspoken "put them in their place attitude" and as a white guy who prefers the street style shit it's kind of embarrassing how blatant it can get at times. It's the Jan Brewer Obama photo in rap form. Not saying it's all white guys in the scene but if you don't think the backpacky hippity hoppity lyrical miracle fans can be a tad biased you're a damn liar.
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Iam sayin White rappers tend to get overrhyped because white people got a diferent perception than the originators black and latinos iam not sayin they are wack but when compared to blacks they have to do much less to be praised.

Fuck the Racism cry baby talk iam talkin battle rap u the one changin subjects
Racism can exist in any activity or groups.

that's like saying "fuck violence I'm talkin bout killin niggas u the one changin subjects"
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Oh, and if and when Bender/Big T goes down Bender will win this site's poll in a fucking landslide. Watch.
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You can't say you do not have something against white people, then say what you say you dont like about them and then sum it up by saying they are destroying the culture.

Just come out and say what you believe. White racism is all right in hip hop.
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Iam sayin White rappers tend to get overrhyped because white people got a diferent perception than the originators black and latinos iam not sayin they are wack but when compared to blacks they have to do much less to be praised.

Fuck the Racism cry baby talk iam talkin battle rap u the one changin subjects
But it also works the other way. People like will overhype blacks and undermine white rappers because they are white rappers. Bigg K vs Illmac can't be great cause there white guys
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I don't agree with the evidence provided per se, but there is definitely a slight bit of racial preference at play in battling. I had to go on a similar rant after Vendetta when people were trying to say Illmac beat Arsonal because "all Arsonal has is gun bars." Or see all the Diz apologists after the Rex battle. Or people like Caustic getting just a liiitttle too hype at Caddy Ron's racist ass shit against AB Hoggish. It's this unspoken "put them in their place attitude" and as a white guy who prefers the street style shit it's kind of embarrassing how blatant it can get at times. It's the Jan Brewer Obama photo in rap form. Not saying it's all white guys in the scene but if you don't think the backpacky hippity hoppity lyrical miracle fans can be a tad biased you're a damn liar.
That guy its like the perfect example of kinda person i wouldnt like to see gettin money off of this but iam not mad at him the niggas that co sign guys like him are the ones i really hate!!
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I clearly said i have nothing against white people how convinient to ignore that and make assumptions.

This lames ddont even read and interpret things just read black and white and start fuming lol bunch of lame sheeps smfh
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the only person out there who actualy be funny sometimes is choppa lol other than that just a bunch of weirdos most of them white, who think gay stuff is funny??? lol
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I almost got in tears for all the white boys who say they love hip hop Verb just broke down there why alot of niggas dont fuck with White boys rappin!!
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But it also works the other way. People like will overhype blacks and undermine white rappers because they are white rappers. Bigg K vs Illmac can't be great cause there white guys
See the diference is niggas rap according to the rules and about themes that have been in rap since shit started.White people tend to talk shit about gun bars in my opinion the originators got the right to say that white rappers are wack because they are not following the tradition.

While in the other end white battlers just shit on the originators thinking that it all started with Eminem.

Hope yall can see the diference!!
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You mad? But seriously white people get so mad when niggas start aimin at them racist asses u fruitcups have kno idea what we go through ahahah,i think i done enough tho,iam out!!

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I don't agree with the evidence provided per se, but there is definitely a slight bit of racial preference at play in battling. I had to go on a similar rant after Vendetta when people were trying to say Illmac beat Arsonal because "all Arsonal has is gun bars." Or see all the Diz apologists after the Rex battle. Or people like Caustic getting just a liiitttle too hype at Caddy Ron's racist ass shit against AB Hoggish. It's this unspoken "put them in their place attitude" and as a white guy who prefers the street style shit it's kind of embarrassing how blatant it can get at times. It's the Jan Brewer Obama photo in rap form. Not saying it's all white guys in the scene but if you don't think the backpacky hippity hoppity lyrical miracle fans can be a tad biased you're a damn liar.
But you are a white guy that prefers gun bars. I am a guy that hates gun bars especially from guys that I know have never seen a gun.

So a verse of all gun bars are hard to impress me with. They have to amazingly creative and performed well. I in general find them corny as hell

Why are you pretening like only one side can be biased.

When cats are like so and so spitting that real shit or spitting them grown bars or whatever.
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See the diference is niggas rap according to the rules and about themes that have been in rap since shit started.White people tend to talk shit about gun bars in my opinion the originators got the right to say that white rappers are wack because they are not following the tradition.

While in the other end white battlers just shit on the originators thinking that it all started with Eminem.

Hope yall can see the diference!!
No you are just making stuff up and not even speaking logically. These battlers here are in there 20's so non of them are originators of anything.
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this entire thread doesn't make sense, i'm just in here to say that i thought putting JC vs Chilla in that thread was awkward cause all the other battles in it were much better than that one (still a dope battle though) and that it's weird as fuck Macklemore apologized for something he had no control over.
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Illmac vs Bigg K> JC vs Chilla all day tbh imo
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But you are a white guy that prefers gun bars. I am a guy that hates gun bars especially from guys that I know have never seen a gun.

So a verse of all gun bars are hard to impress me with. They have to amazingly creative and performed well. I in general find them corny as hell

Why are you pretening like only one side can be biased.

When cats are like so and so spitting that real shit or spitting them grown bars or whatever.
I'm not pretending one side can be biased. I should have done a better job of illustrating that I was talking about bias within the scope of the online community. I wouldn't presume to speak for every fan of battling out there. But there is a decidedly white-leaning, "gun bar" resenting portion of these forums I find unsettling. It's just my personal opinion. To each their own. And again, if Bender vs Big T goes down Bender will crush him in the polls barring a huge choke. I'll stand by that.

Edit: I also forgot to mention in regards to realness that the "never shot a gun" argument is far more prevalent than "never swung a Viking sword", "cut up somebody with a retractable claw" or "thrown a razor fitted like Kung Lao."

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Illmac vs Bigg K> JC vs Chilla all day tbh imo
perfect post to prove my point ,thread can now be closed
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like in another thread somebody asked to list the best battles and he had the nerve to put JC vs Chilla and Verb vs Hitman in the same category as fuckin Big K vs Illmac!!
lol @ my thread pissing you off so much.

The reason I had it set up that way was because Verb vs. Hitman won RM battle of the year in 2012 and Illmac vs. Bigg K won RMBVA battle of the year for 2013. Simple as that.

For the record, I think Surf vs. Big T was better the options I had in the poll.
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perfect post to prove my point ,thread can now be closed
I am white.. but im not a new fan. Been watching battles for ten plus years..I still think JC/Chilla is a classic as fuck battle. Just a preference. How long you been watching battles @WassPoppinB ?
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I am white.. but im not a new fan. Been watching battles for ten plus years..I still think JC/Chilla is a classic as fucj battle. Just a preference. How long you been watching battles @WassPoppinB ?
I listen to rap pratically since i was born to understand battles u got to know rap too thats why i said i prefer to call it most white fans instead of new fans.

I doubt MOST(yes most iam not sayin all)white fans heard KRS ONE,masta ace,Rakim,Chubb Rock,LL cool J etc etc full Albums(yes FULL ALBUMS not just the singles) theres alot of things about rap besides Eminem and multies lol
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I listen to rap pratically since i was born to understand battles u got to know rap too thats why i said i prefer to call it most white fans instead of new fans.

I doubt MOST(yes most iam not sayin all)white fans heard KRS ONE,masta ace,Rakim,Chubb Rock,LL cool J etc etc full Albums(yes FULL ALBUMS not just the singles) theres alot of things about rap besides Eminem and multies lol
Word.. I been listening to rap ever since I can remember..one of my first cassettes was Black Sheep "Wolf And Sheep's Clothing" lol.. I got into battles from being a hip hop junkie all my life. Heard full albums from all the cats you've listed. I bump quite a bit of Masts Ace in particular. Can't remember the last time I listened to Eminem
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I'm not pretending one side can be biased. I should have done a better job of illustrating that I was talking about bias within the scope of the online community. I wouldn't presume to speak for every fan of battling out there. But there is a decidedly white-leaning, "gun bar" resenting portion of these forums I find unsettling. It's just my personal opinion. To each their own. And again, if Bender vs Big T goes down Bender will crush him in the polls barring a huge choke. I'll stand by that.

Edit: I also forgot to mention in regards to realness that the "never shot a gun" argument is far more prevalent than "never swung a Viking sword", "cut up somebody with a retractable claw" or "thrown a razor fitted like Kung Lao."
Big T Bender is race the reason why or is it style preference?

What's wrong with not liking gun bars.
I personally don't like them as I find it to be very unoriginal very basic

Its forcing people who have no business speaking that stuff to feel they have to do gun bars to get people respect
But one is clearly meant for exaggeration. The other is perpetrating a lifestyle that you don't live. It's pretending to be someone else.

The gun non gun preference is not really a race issue. It's more based on what brought you into battling. If you came into battling from Smack DVD's and stuff like that then you will lean that way. If you came into battling from WRC's or Scribble Jam than allot of times you are not into the gun bar style.

What's worse is the fact that theres a bunch of you who don't give guys respect because they don't spit gun bars. The whole KOTD/GT rappers are just dick and mom joke mentality
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Old 01-28-2014, 04:23 PM   #35
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I listen to rap pratically since i was born to understand battles u got to know rap too thats why i said i prefer to call it most white fans instead of new fans.

I doubt MOST(yes most iam not sayin all)white fans heard KRS ONE,masta ace,Rakim,Chubb Rock,LL cool J etc etc full Albums(yes FULL ALBUMS not just the singles) theres alot of things about rap besides Eminem and multies lol
You're a clown. Do you know how many black young kids haven't listened to those albums. Your doubts are baseless and foolish.

I doubt most white guys who were around in those days didn't listen to those albums.

The white guys i knew usually knew more as back in the day they needed to prove themselves so they were well studied on tracks.
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And I'm not a new fan my hip hop started with the vinyl from stuff like Whodini and Egyptian Lover( most don't know who that is)

or white
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You're a clown. Do you know how many black young kids haven't listened to those albums. Your doubts are baseless and foolish.

I doubt most white guys who were around in those days didn't listen to those albums.

The white guys i knew usually knew more as back in the day they needed to prove themselves so they were well studied on tracks.
lol iam amused how this guys always find a way to put white above ur coment gave me a good laugh thank u.

I would be too stupid to waste time discussin this here i really dont wanna change nobody opinion so i dont care let me get on my coon boots and say "Have fun Massas"
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lol iam amused how this guys always find a way to put white above ur coment gave me a good laugh thank u.

I would be too stupid to waste time discussin this here i really dont wanna change nobody opinion so i dont care let me get on my coon boots and say "Have fun Massas"
Basically you have no point so you are done
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doubt MOST(yes most iam not sayin all)white fans heard KRS ONE,masta ace,Rakim,Chubb Rock,LL cool J etc etc full Albums(yes FULL ALBUMS not just the singles) theres alot of things about rap besides Eminem and multies lol
Wut.... my roommate and all her sisters/cousins are eminem super fans and I'm 99% certain wouldn't know any of those dudes.... and I'm the opposite
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Why's this gotta be a race thing?

Its simply a street vs suburban/backpacker thing...

K vs Illmac is a classic cuz its a style clash. Both did what they do to the best of their ability, street rap fans will prefer K and others will prefer Illmac.
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